nama shoyu+almonds

December 13, 2001

yes indeed,thanks for the info, i'm in, too

maybe 10-15-25 lbs and some nama shoyu, any other

great offers? olive oil? and fruits and more fruits

and even more fruits? love ya, a tt i l a

--- Jennifer Wheeler <Jennifer

wrote:

> This sounds fabulous!! I would definitely be in on

> Nama Shoyu and almonds.

> In fact, I've been wanting to buy almonds anyway, so

> is anyone up for

> splitting with me? We could split the order 5 ways

> (max.), so me and 4

> others. Let me know.

>

> Thanks!

> ~Jennifer

>

> -

> " Stephen Bard " <StephenBard

> <RawSeattle >

> Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:11 PM

> [RawSeattle] nama shoyu

>

> : We can order 4.75gal of nama shoyu for $112.95 +

> $15 shipping from

> goldmine

> : natural food 18004753663. Also other bulk stuff.

> Anderson Almonds has 25

> : pounds of organic almonds for $117.44 (includes

> shipping) -- that's only

> : $4.70 per pound. We should leverage the power of

> our community by doing

> more

> : bulk orders together.

> : I want to make a website utility that will allow

> people to sign up for

> : orders, and to sign up to be coordinators for

> orders. As soon as enough

> : people sign up, the utility will send an email to

> the coordinator with the

> : info on what to buy and from where and how much,

> and the coordinator will

> : buy it and then distribute to those who signed up,

> at potlucks etc. I need

> : to hear from Eric as to what scripting our server

> supports on the backend

> : and then i'll write the program.

> :

December 14, 2001

Hi Folks, Sorry to rain on your parade. But, my conscience and personal experience speaks louder...Nama Shoya is NOT a raw food or raw processed food, matter of fact it is not a FOOD!!!!!!! Nama Shoya is made from cooked soya beans - something in the neighborhood of eighteen hours of pressure cooking time, then they grind it and salt it (even could be Celtic Sea Salt) and then they externally add a fermenting culture (fyi: scientifically/biologically/chemically substantiated... all fermented cultures equate to micro-organism feces). Then this abomination further sits collecting more feces for two-five years. Symptoms of dried skin, cracked heels, dandruff, irritability/moodiness, itchy skin, watery or dry eyes, burning eyes, bloated belly are just some of the mild symptoms associated with "SALT PRODUCTS " of any kind. Injesting salt in any form (celtic, seaweed, real salt, sea salt, rock salt - all the fancy names- throws the institual fluids of the outer cell out of harmony. This in turn throws the inside of the cell, which is potassium based, out of balance causing joint inflammation, bloated, itchy skin, water retention, weakness/listlessness, limbs feel heavy, tired, no drive etc. The Nama Shoya is a funny looking fruit and vegetable. I have never seen a Nama Shoya Tree, have you? Oh by the way I have seen an almond tree and eaten a complete meal from one or two with no mental or physical disturbances. So, I bid you good health because knowledge is power and freedom. If you need to verify it with another source, Nature's First Law has an article on how raw is Nama Shoya, better yet, pay attention to how you personally feel after you injest that bacterial dander? This message is for edification not a judgment or an attack on anyone , just plain hard core RAW TRUTH. SO, don't throw your money away to cooked food/poison products. joyce - attila madaras Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:37 AM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] nama shoyu+almonds yes indeed,thanks for the info, i'm in, too maybe 10-15-25 lbs and some nama shoyu, any other great offers? olive oil? and fruits and more fruits and even more fruits? love ya, a tt i l a--- Jennifer Wheeler <Jenniferwrote:> This sounds fabulous!! I would definitely be in on> Nama Shoyu and almonds.> In fact, I've been wanting to buy almonds anyway, so> is anyone up for> splitting with me? We could split the order 5 ways> (max.), so me and 4> others. Let me know.> > Thanks!> ~Jennifer> > -> "Stephen Bard" <StephenBard> <RawSeattle >> Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:11 PM> [RawSeattle] nama shoyu> > > : We can order 4.75gal of nama shoyu for $112.95 +> $15 shipping from> goldmine> : natural food 18004753663. Also other bulk stuff.> Anderson Almonds has 25> : pounds of organic almonds for $117.44 (includes> shipping) -- that's only> : $4.70 per pound. We should leverage the power of> our community by doing> more> : bulk orders together.> : I want to make a website utility that will allow> people to sign up for> : orders, and to sign up to be coordinators for> orders. As soon as enough> : people sign up, the utility will send an email to> the coordinator with the> : info on what to buy and from where and how much,> and the coordinator will> : buy it and then distribute to those who signed up,> at potlucks etc. I need> : to hear from Eric as to what scripting our server> supports on the backend> : and then i'll write the program.> :> :> :> :

December 14, 2001

This is one of those religious type arguments that divides the raw community.

There is no question that nama shoyu is not as raw as fresh fruits and vegetables. The issue of whether a product that has been killed and then "revived" via microbial action is sufficiently alive to be considered raw should be a personal one and based on conversations with your own body intelligence. Nama shoyu certainly contains lots of enzymes. As for the argument that we are eating the waste products of microorganisms, I personally believe that this argument just taps into our society's obsession with shit being bad in general. Plants certainly "eat" the waste products of microorganisms, and there are plenty of microorganisms in the plants we eat (excreting waste products into those plants' interiors in small amounts), and the microorganisms in our intestines excrete lots of waste products. Why should I assume that my body can't handle (or even thrive on) small amounts of waste products from microorganisms? In any case I shall choose to spend more time deciding the answer for myself.

In addition, for those of us on transitional diets, nama shoyu can perhaps make things easier. I for one would like to think that my body will guide me to eat a simpler and simpler diet but I'm not there yet. At the moment salt is still "interesting" to me. Perhaps that's just a sign of my residual toxicities and food addictions: but the important thing is, I'm having fun and I feel healthier than I ever have before!

Peace in cleansing,

Stephen