Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 Anyone have any suggestions for enjoying grapefruit as a meal--snack? and using most of it without waste? (including skins?) thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 Interesting question! I have an article which extols the qualities of grapefruit pectin for reducing the plaque in arteries. The cur is to eat two a day - shins and all. I am sceptical as the medical profession do not seem to know about this phenomenon. It seems a Dr. Cerda has mixed up a potion which he calls Profibe. If I thought such a product were as useful as Health Services Institute says, I might go for it anyway. Somewhere I read that grapefruits are not all that wonderful for the health. I would like to know forum thoughts on the subject Peter gclah2002 [no_reply ] 06 June 2003 22:07 rawfood [Raw Food] How should I Make the most of grapefruit Anyone have any suggestions for enjoying grapefruit as a meal--snack? and using most of it without waste? (including skins?) thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Peter; How do you know that you have plaque in your arteries? Do you have high blood pressure, or high cholesterol? I would think that your fast would have wiped it out. Remember, plaque is a symptom not the cause of the problem. You are already dealing with the cause. By the way, I ended my fast, made it 15 days. I came off on apples which are best according to Arnold Ehret. I believe that fasting is the next level after raw foods, and I plan to make it a part of my life. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Interesting question! > > I have an article which extols the qualities of grapefruit pectin for > reducing the plaque in arteries. > The cur is to eat two a day - shins and all. I am sceptical as the > medical profession do not seem to know about this > phenomenon. It seems a Dr. Cerda has mixed up a potion which he calls > Profibe. If I thought such a product were as useful as Health Services > Institute says, I might go for it anyway. > > Somewhere I read that grapefruits are not all that wonderful for the > health. > > I would like to know forum thoughts on the subject > > Peter > > > gclah2002 [no_reply ] > 06 June 2003 22:07 > rawfood > [Raw Food] How should I Make the most of grapefruit > > > Anyone have any suggestions for enjoying grapefruit as a meal-- snack? > and using most of it without waste? (including skins?) thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Doug, There is constriction of the flow of blood through my legs. I manifest the symptoms known as claudication. According to my specialist cardio-vascular surgeon, I probably have Buergers disease and if not aetherosclerosis. Either way it means plaque in the arteries. The plague is that it persists so long. I cannot run but I can now walk about 4.5 miles in an hour. One doctor tells me that the body creates new arteries, another tells me that I am a lot more healthy than I was. When I had the diagnosis I was still on the wicked old ways and all that has changed. Blood pressure and cholesterol are low. My GP says, " Whatever you are eating is great - no need for drugs with your blood counts " . A first fast of 15 days is good. I did fasts of 2 days and five days before a 14 day fast and then went on to a 28 day fast after a break of about 6 months. It certainly does lift one to a higher level of confidence and self control. The reassurance that you are in control of your own body is tremendous. Those who see themselves at being at the point of starvation if they miss a meal, simply have not lived. Tomorrow I get to see a French dietician who has sent about a pint of my blood in small test tubes to be analysed. The results are in. When I told her what I eat, she thought I was some kind of maniac set out on a path of self denial, destined to suffer chronic malnutrition and certainly in need of dietary counselling - or so it was written on her face. I had to reassure her that if I knew so much about diet, I would not be in her office. " A demain " as we say here Peter kauguy [no_reply ] 09 June 2003 06:43 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: How should I Make the most of grapefruit Peter; How do you know that you have plaque in your arteries? Do you have high blood pressure, or high cholesterol? I would think that your fast would have wiped it out. Remember, plaque is a symptom not the cause of the problem. You are already dealing with the cause. By the way, I ended my fast, made it 15 days. I came off on apples which are best according to Arnold Ehret. I believe that fasting is the next level after raw foods, and I plan to make it a part of my life. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Interesting question! > > I have an article which extols the qualities of grapefruit pectin for > reducing the plaque in arteries. > The cur is to eat two a day - shins and all. I am sceptical as the > medical profession do not seem to know about this phenomenon. It > seems a Dr. Cerda has mixed up a potion which he calls > Profibe. If I thought such a product were as useful as Health Services > Institute says, I might go for it anyway. > > Somewhere I read that grapefruits are not all that wonderful for the > health. > > I would like to know forum thoughts on the subject > > Peter > > > gclah2002 [no_reply ] > 06 June 2003 22:07 > rawfood > [Raw Food] How should I Make the most of grapefruit > > > Anyone have any suggestions for enjoying grapefruit as a meal-- snack? > and using most of it without waste? (including skins?) thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Peter; Keep in mind that when the results of your blood test come back, you will most likely be told there is something wrong. What is considered " normal " is in fact normal (average) for cooked foodists I am sure you will at least be told you are low in protein and a specific protein, albumin. Which is the blood form of mucus. In the past raw foodists were killed, Christ, Joan of Arch, and the so called Pagans (which were actually naturalists living on fruits on seeds) and we are still condemned today. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Doug, > > There is constriction of the flow of blood through my legs. I manifest > the symptoms > known as claudication. According to my specialist cardio-vascular > surgeon, I probably have Buergers disease and if not aetherosclerosis. > Either way it means plaque in the arteries. The plague is that it > persists so long. > > I cannot run but I can now walk about 4.5 miles in an hour. One doctor > tells me that the body creates new arteries, another tells me that I am > a lot more healthy than I was. When I had the diagnosis I was still on > the wicked old ways > and all that has changed. Blood pressure and cholesterol are low. My GP > says, " Whatever you are eating is great - no need for drugs with your > blood counts " . > > A first fast of 15 days is good. I did fasts of 2 days and five days > before a 14 day fast and then went on to a 28 day fast after a break of > about 6 months. It certainly does lift one to a higher level of > confidence and self control. The reassurance that you are in control of > your own body is tremendous. Those who see themselves at being at the > point of starvation if they miss a meal, simply have not lived. > > Tomorrow I get to see a French dietician who has sent about a pint of my > blood in small test tubes to be analysed. The results are in. When I > told her what I eat, she thought I was some kind of maniac set out on a > path of self denial, destined to suffer chronic malnutrition and > certainly in need of dietary counselling - or so it was written on her > face. I had to reassure her that if I knew so much about diet, I would > not be in her office. > > " A demain " as we say here > > Peter > > > > kauguy [no_reply ] > 09 June 2003 06:43 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: How should I Make the most of grapefruit > > > Peter; > > How do you know that you have plaque in your arteries? Do you have > high blood pressure, or high cholesterol? I would think that your > fast would have wiped it out. Remember, plaque is a symptom not the > cause of the problem. You are already dealing with the cause. By the > way, I ended my fast, made it 15 days. I came off on apples which are > best according to Arnold Ehret. I believe that fasting is the next > level after raw foods, and I plan to make it a part of my life. > > Doug > > > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> > wrote: > > Interesting question! > > > > I have an article which extols the qualities of grapefruit pectin > for > > reducing the plaque in arteries. > > The cur is to eat two a day - shins and all. I am sceptical as the > > medical profession do not seem to know about this phenomenon. It > > seems a Dr. Cerda has mixed up a potion which he > calls > > Profibe. If I thought such a product were as useful as Health > Services > > Institute says, I might go for it anyway. > > > > Somewhere I read that grapefruits are not all that wonderful for the > > health. > > > > I would like to know forum thoughts on the subject > > > > Peter > > > > > > gclah2002 [no_reply ] > > 06 June 2003 22:07 > > rawfood > > [Raw Food] How should I Make the most of grapefruit > > > > > > Anyone have any suggestions for enjoying grapefruit as a meal-- > snack? > > and using most of it without waste? (including skins?) thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Thanks for the hints, Doug Have to say that I am looking forward to the outcome with great interest. This nutritionist is keen on the so-called Cretan diet. She claims a micro biology slant, is MD and dietician. Joan of Arc! Pythagoras I knew. If there is any grilling, I will be doing it! Peter kauguy [no_reply ] 09 June 2003 15:39 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: How should I Make the most of grapefruit Peter; Keep in mind that when the results of your blood test come back, you will most likely be told there is something wrong. What is considered " normal " is in fact normal (average) for cooked foodists I am sure you will at least be told you are low in protein and a specific protein, albumin. Which is the blood form of mucus. In the past raw foodists were killed, Christ, Joan of Arch, and the so called Pagans (which were actually naturalists living on fruits on seeds) and we are still condemned today. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Doug, > > There is constriction of the flow of blood through my legs. I manifest > the symptoms > known as claudication. According to my specialist cardio-vascular > surgeon, I probably have Buergers disease and if not aetherosclerosis. > Either way it means plaque in the arteries. The plague is that it > persists so long. > > I cannot run but I can now walk about 4.5 miles in an hour. One doctor > tells me that the body creates new arteries, another tells me that I am > a lot more healthy than I was. When I had the diagnosis I was still on > the wicked old ways > and all that has changed. Blood pressure and cholesterol are low. My GP > says, " Whatever you are eating is great - no need for drugs with your > blood counts " . > > A first fast of 15 days is good. I did fasts of 2 days and five days > before a 14 day fast and then went on to a 28 day fast after a break of > about 6 months. It certainly does lift one to a higher level of > confidence and self control. The reassurance that you are in control of > your own body is tremendous. Those who see themselves at being at the > point of starvation if they miss a meal, simply have not lived. > > Tomorrow I get to see a French dietician who has sent about a pint of my > blood in small test tubes to be analysed. The results are in. When I > told her what I eat, she thought I was some kind of maniac set out on a > path of self denial, destined to suffer chronic malnutrition and > certainly in need of dietary counselling - or so it was written on her > face. I had to reassure her that if I knew so much about diet, I would > not be in her office. > > " A demain " as we say here > > Peter > > > > kauguy [no_reply ] > 09 June 2003 06:43 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: How should I Make the most of grapefruit > > > Peter; > > How do you know that you have plaque in your arteries? Do you have > high blood pressure, or high cholesterol? I would think that your > fast would have wiped it out. Remember, plaque is a symptom not the > cause of the problem. You are already dealing with the cause. By the > way, I ended my fast, made it 15 days. I came off on apples which are > best according to Arnold Ehret. I believe that fasting is the next > level after raw foods, and I plan to make it a part of my life. > > Doug > > > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> > wrote: > > Interesting question! > > > > I have an article which extols the qualities of grapefruit pectin > for > > reducing the plaque in arteries. > > The cur is to eat two a day - shins and all. I am sceptical as the > > medical profession do not seem to know about this phenomenon. It > > seems a Dr. Cerda has mixed up a potion which he > calls > > Profibe. If I thought such a product were as useful as Health > Services > > Institute says, I might go for it anyway. > > > > Somewhere I read that grapefruits are not all that wonderful for the > > health. > > > > I would like to know forum thoughts on the subject > > > > Peter > > > > > > gclah2002 [no_reply ] > > 06 June 2003 22:07 > > rawfood > > [Raw Food] How should I Make the most of grapefruit > > > > > > Anyone have any suggestions for enjoying grapefruit as a meal-- > snack? > > and using most of it without waste? (including skins?) thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Doug, In addition, the French, although great allies of the USA, in an anti-British way, have a view on diet which transcends political boundaries. As a generalization, the French feel that they have the last word on diet. They pride themselves on keeping up-to-date on US research. Thus I expect a lot better than a SAD mix of cultural ignorance. Flavenoids, free radicals, Omega 3 are anticipated touting, but anticipating the future is as risky as trading the markets. Peter Thanks for the hints, Doug Have to say that I am looking forward to the outcome with great interest. This nutritionist is keen on the so-called Cretan diet. She claims a micro biology slant, is MD and dietician. Joan of Arc! Pythagoras I knew. If there is any grilling, I will be doing it! Peter kauguy [no_reply ] 09 June 2003 15:39 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: How should I Make the most of grapefruit Peter; Keep in mind that when the results of your blood test come back, you will most likely be told there is something wrong. What is considered " normal " is in fact normal (average) for cooked foodists I am sure you will at least be told you are low in protein and a specific protein, albumin. Which is the blood form of mucus. In the past raw foodists were killed, Christ, Joan of Arch, and the so called Pagans (which were actually naturalists living on fruits on seeds) and we are still condemned today. Doug rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Doug, > > There is constriction of the flow of blood through my legs. I manifest > the symptoms > known as claudication. According to my specialist cardio-vascular > surgeon, I probably have Buergers disease and if not aetherosclerosis. > Either way it means plaque in the arteries. The plague is that it > persists so long. > > I cannot run but I can now walk about 4.5 miles in an hour. One doctor > tells me that the body creates new arteries, another tells me that I am > a lot more healthy than I was. When I had the diagnosis I was still on > the wicked old ways > and all that has changed. Blood pressure and cholesterol are low. My GP > says, " Whatever you are eating is great - no need for drugs with your > blood counts " . > > A first fast of 15 days is good. I did fasts of 2 days and five days > before a 14 day fast and then went on to a 28 day fast after a break of > about 6 months. It certainly does lift one to a higher level of > confidence and self control. The reassurance that you are in control of > your own body is tremendous. Those who see themselves at being at the > point of starvation if they miss a meal, simply have not lived. > > Tomorrow I get to see a French dietician who has sent about a pint of my > blood in small test tubes to be analysed. The results are in. When I > told her what I eat, she thought I was some kind of maniac set out on a > path of self denial, destined to suffer chronic malnutrition and > certainly in need of dietary counselling - or so it was written on her > face. I had to reassure her that if I knew so much about diet, I would > not be in her office. > > " A demain " as we say here > > Peter > > > > kauguy [no_reply ] > 09 June 2003 06:43 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: How should I Make the most of grapefruit > > > Peter; > > How do you know that you have plaque in your arteries? Do you have > high blood pressure, or high cholesterol? I would think that your fast > would have wiped it out. Remember, plaque is a symptom not the cause > of the problem. You are already dealing with the cause. By the > way, I ended my fast, made it 15 days. I came off on apples which are > best according to Arnold Ehret. I believe that fasting is the next > level after raw foods, and I plan to make it a part of my life. > > Doug > > > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> > wrote: > > Interesting question! > > > > I have an article which extols the qualities of grapefruit pectin > for > > reducing the plaque in arteries. > > The cur is to eat two a day - shins and all. I am sceptical as the > > medical profession do not seem to know about this phenomenon. It > > seems a Dr. Cerda has mixed up a potion which he > calls > > Profibe. If I thought such a product were as useful as Health > Services > > Institute says, I might go for it anyway. > > > > Somewhere I read that grapefruits are not all that wonderful for the > > health. > > > > I would like to know forum thoughts on the subject > > > > Peter > > > > > > gclah2002 [no_reply ] > > 06 June 2003 22:07 > > rawfood > > [Raw Food] How should I Make the most of grapefruit > > > > > > Anyone have any suggestions for enjoying grapefruit as a meal-- > snack? > > and using most of it without waste? (including skins?) thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.