Victor

May 10, 2003

Victor; when ever I come back to this club after being away for a

while. I always look for messages from you, Peter, Roger, and Orions

dad, cause you guys have got your fingers on the heart throb of this

club. When I read about your water fast, I was on the edge of my

seat. I just finished reading " Rational Fasting " by Arnold Ehret. In

reading this book I have come to realize that fasting is as

important, if not more important than eating raw. If any of you have

not read this book you have got to get it. I literally dream of doing

a fast. But I am working my butt off right now and I don't think it

would be a good idea. Maybe I can do it this summer. You can not

imagine what it was like to see my old buddy Victor doing a water

fast. Wow! Ehret says you can drink lemon aid during a fast, but I

think it should be a water fast. I read about sensory deprivation

tanks and they said that when you stop putting information into your

brain, all this stuff comes out of it, and I think nutrition is the

same. If you stop putting anything in your body, all this crap comes

out. Ehret said you should start with short fasts and work your way

up to longer fasts. Starting with a 9 day fast is monumental. Ehret

talks about the care you need to take in coming off a fast and how

people have died not doing it right. We haven't heard from you for a

while, Victor, so I hope you did it right!

Doug

rawfood , shortus <no_reply> wrote:

> My dear raw fooders,

>

> Well I finally reached my goal. It feels like an anti-climax

because

> I am feeling very well but a little slow. I think I am afraid of

> going back to my old diet. This has been a very nice trip thanks to

> you.

>

> I am undecided whether to go on to day 10 or start to come down

> tomorrow. It seems I could go on forever but I've got to come down

> sometime.

>

> I think coming down is very important. I tell myself it is

important

> to come down slowly; to start on raw vegetable juices for three

days,

> then move to raw vegetable and fruit juices for two days, then move

> to raw fruit and vegetables.

>

> The problem is I don't feel the slightest bit hungry so I suppose I

> will start off very slowly.

>

> Probably any change is scary so changing from water for nine days

to

> raw fruit and vegetables is scary too. Yes, I feel a little scared.

> Will I do it well?

>

> I'll let you know.

>

> Victor.

May 11, 2003

A lot of people who sell their counselling on fasting insist upon their

indispensability. It makes sense. As I have said before, if one gets in

a mess with a fast there are two obvious options. First: break the fast

slowly and the second: take medical opinion.

I work by the generality that a fast should not be more than about twice

as long as the your longest fast. I add to that that there should be a

longish gap between fasts too. Otherwise the body will be preparing for

the next famine and a mixed-up cycle will develop. However, I have also

read that a tongue should be pink before the fast is stopped.

What is taken on the fast can depend upon what is being sought. A friend

born in the Punjab told me that at the slightest sign of any illness,

tradition indicates fasting with a little lemon juice. I think this

approach is probably optimal for purging the gut of infection and a lot

of minor problem . For detoxification, water fasting seems best tome

although it might be too fast for others and some juice could slow the

adverse symptoms in that plight. I can see that for specific healing

processes there could be advantages on taking specific juices.

Peter

kauguy [no_reply ]

10 May 2003 13:29

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