Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Jackie North [vegchick86] Tuesday, May 06, 2003 1:24 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Arlin, Patenaude, and Dr Graham I have a protein deficiency.. I've been raw for 1.5 years.. I did Dr. Grahams program for a while, but became extremely unbalanced with a result of candida and multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I also was quite gullible when it came to advice from many raw fooders about detox, weight loss, and the infamous " protein deficiencies almost never occur unless you don't eat anything " .. right.. yes, you CAN develop a protein deficiency even eating raw fruits and vegetables... and it is very easy to not eat enough calories when eating raw. I don't make that mistake anymore.. I have cured my candida and deficiencies..thank you gabriel cousens.. =) now I'm working on gaining weight (body fat) so I can begin menstruating again so as not to end up infertile! Even raw food can be dangerous.. make sure you know what you're doing, and always listen to your instinct over other people's advice or " knowledge " .. [RH] Thank you for your post. Now you are the first person I've met who has claimed a protein deficiency. I totally agree to listen to your instinct over other people's advice or knowledge. I would certainly apply that rule to following Dr. Graham or Dr. Cousens. In the end you always have to do what works for you. I have found many interesting things in my years of research with using diet. I used to be an advocate of Dr. Cousens approach. In fact, I've tried many approaches to doing the raw food diet. By trying all of these diets and by seeing the results of many people on raw diets I've learned one main thing. It can be very difficult to determine cause and effect. The classic example is the heavy detoxification many people go through if they switch to 100% raw very quickly. They start having bad results and they blame it on the raw foods. They get very skinny or they start getting cavities or they feel very cold or they lack energy or they get pimples and rashes or they get a very long flu. No matter what they have read before about detoxification, they just don't believe it is happening to them. I know because these kinds of things (though not all of the above) happened to me. I was forewarned that these things would occur and that they would eventually stop. But I never made it long enough to where these things would stop. So I stopped eating 100% raw because although I felt good I had other results I didn't like. Now getting back to the protein deficiency issue. How exactly do you know you were protein deficient? I find it hard to believe that you were protein deficient unless you didn't eat a wide enough variety of raw fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds. Let me type in something here out of " Raw Secrets, " on the issue of protein. " Some People Live on Very Small Amounts of Protein During an expedition in the interior regions of New Guinea, the researchers Hipsley and Clements of Sidney discovered an aboriginal tribe living in the mountains of Mount Hagen whose diet consisted of certain plants, 80% to 90% of their diet was sweet potatoes. The rest was composed mostly of young shoots, sugar cane, green vegetables, bananas, palm hearts and various nuts... The population, including the children and teenagers, was obviously in very good health, while accomplishing great physical work. Professor H.A.P. Oomen... discovered that their daily consumption of protein was 9.92 grams (due to the fact that sweet potatoes only contain between 0.5 and 1.5% protein.) Meanwhile they eliminated in their fecal matter around 15 times more protein than was ingested through their diet, eating between 1.4 and 2 kilos of sweet potatoes a day. The logical conclusion was that proteins were synthesized in the body following an unknown process. Albert Mosseri " There are other cultures that live on about 20 grams of protein per day and are very healthy. The whole culture eats that way. They don't determine their blood type and then say that this person needs a high protein diet. I have taken all the tests that Dr. Cousens has in his books. The problem with those tests is that depending on when I take them I get completely different answers. I used to answer for instance that I was having symptoms of hypoglycemia. It's funny how I don't have those symptoms at all because I eat a high fruit diet now. I used to think that was the cause of this hypoglycemia. This is only one example. Each time I look back at my previous answers I have changed. Depending on what you think and how you act and what you eat those answers can change very quickly. It sounds to me that you loosened up too many internal toxins in your body by a raw diet and then they weren't being eliminated fast enough. This is a common problem at first. Some people go to colonics. I think the best answer is vigorous exercise and deep breathing exercises. Vigorous exercise and deep breathing are the only way to pump your bodies garbage disposal system, the lymph fluid. You have 4 times more lymph fluid than blood. It surrounds the cells and its job is to move cellular waste out of your body. One sign of danger could be a lack of regular bowel movements. You should probably have on average between two to four bowel movements per day. Sometimes you'll go in different cycles and may only have one on a particular day. But other days you might have 4 or 5 bowel movements. If raw foodists are having regular bowel movements and getting plenty of exercise, rest, fresh air and sunshine then eventually s/he will get past the initial detoxification periods. The problem is that our bodies are full of incredibly acidic toxins from years of poisoning. So what is throwing us off is really our previous acts of eating and in taking of toxins in other ways and not the raw foods. Jackie, getting back to your Candida problem. Maybe you weren't following Dr. Graham's program closely enough. You will definitely run into a problem if you eat too much fruit along with too much fat. This will certainly lead to Candida. What people don't realize is that sugar from fruit can be digested very quickly if there is very little fat in the bloodstream. I did a blood sugar test on myself. The first reading was 106 then I ate 12 bananas. I next checked it 1 hour and 10 minutes later. My blood sugar was now 95. I was able to process it so quickly because I had very little fat in my bloodstream. But if I go and eat too much fat then my Candida will act up. If I eat mono meals of fruit or well combined fruit meals, I have absolutely no problem with Candida. Sugar fuels every cell in the body. Our brains run on sugar. That is our primary nutritional need. Sugar is the primary macronutrient or caloronutrient in mother's milk. Even if we eat lots of fatty foods, they has to be converted to sugar. So we can't escape sugar for it is much more important for humans than protein or fat. One of the main tenants of Dr. Graham's program is to make sure you eat enough calories. So if one were to really follow his program s/he would be eating a tremendous amount of sweet fruit to provide enough calories. He teaches people that they have to learn to stretch their stomach when eating raw foods because they are so full of water. Cooked foods are dehydrated and pack much more caloric punch per bite than do raw fruits and vegetables. So people transitioning to raw foods usually eat too few calories because they aren't used to feeling so full. Dr. Graham also advocates eating lots of vegetables. Dark leafy greens are usually higher in mineral content. If you eat plenty of salads you should take care of most of your nutrient needs. Also try to eat a variety of foods. Of course this doesn't explain someone I've heard of who eats only grapes. She eats every kind and color of grape, but only grapes for the last 11 years or so. Apparently, she is in excellent health. She sleeps very little and she has so much energy that she refuses to ever sit in a chair. I'm going to try to interview her soon to get the details. I know of her because she was my friend's girlfriend. I hope this posting was of help to some of you. To Your Radiant Health, Roger Have you tried the Raw Diet many times but failed to stick with it? Now you can learn the Motivational and Dietary Secrets to success on a 100% Raw Food Diet. From Infinite Potential and Raw Food Coach, Roger Haeske, the author of Your Hidden Power - eClass, Infinite Tennis and http://www.superbeing.com. Go to http://www.superbeingdiet.com to learn how to go 100% RAW. 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