Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 Hi- I just joined, and Peter, I am interested in what you posted that its largely grains that pours the mucos dodwn the nose. Here I've always thought it was diary alone that was responsible for that. Now I have to worry about grains too? So if I don't consume any grains, what makes up for not having whole raw grains?? Do grain sprouts also do this?? I'm just now going back to raw food diet, and before, I ate soaked grains or sprouts...Mucous is a problem with me. Thankyou for any light you can shed on this. Elaine Peter Gardiner wrote: > Sorry, John, > > Colds have become a thing of the past with the rawfood diet for me too. > > So please add me to your list of exceptions. > > As posted elsewhere, it's largely grains that pours the mucous down the > nose. > > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Elaine, It is simple really. You just eat fruit instead. In my case I buy 4 kilo bags of apples for example. Be careful of giving up too much all at once. You might detoxify too fast. Best to take a few weeks to gradually phase out the old poisons. Mouth sores and mouth biting are a sign of detoxification. Other have written in books of items to avoid but here are a few sneaky ones that have got on my nerves. Olive oil but all vegetable oils that have been extracted from their source. Brazil nuts unless I remove the shells Mung beans Excess citrus fruit in a cold climate Garlic Onions Hope this helps and if you need any explanation, just ask. Peter Elaine Davis [twobears] dimanche 12 janvier 2003 13:24 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Hi, I'm new/Peter Hi- I just joined, and Peter, I am interested in what you posted that its largely grains that pours the mucos dodwn the nose. Here I've always thought it was diary alone that was responsible for that. Now I have to worry about grains too? So if I don't consume any grains, what makes up for not having whole raw grains?? Do grain sprouts also do this?? I'm just now going back to raw food diet, and before, I ate soaked grains or sprouts...Mucous is a problem with me. Thankyou for any light you can shed on this. Elaine Peter Gardiner wrote: > Sorry, John, > > Colds have become a thing of the past with the rawfood diet for me too. > > So please add me to your list of exceptions. > > As posted elsewhere, it's largely grains that pours the mucous down the > nose. > > Peter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Perhaps I should introduce myself. My name is Elaine, and I've been a raw foodist before, enjoying every minute of it. I was anemic due to problems before I went raw, so that really had to be addressed...now way down the road 3 years later, I have gone back to raw. I simply cannot go with my dh SAD way of eating any longer. Its more like a runamuck childish way of eating anything you see that you think tastes good with no thought about health whatsoever. When I was on raw food groups before, I never once heard anyone saying that raw soaked or sprouted grains were a problem for them. Presently, I am about 85% raw. I'm wearing out the lawn between the back door and the papaya trees(living in the south can be a good thing) Peter, I am curious - especially since I have a lot of seeds for making sprouts, have you heard of others who had a problem with sprouted grains as well? Is this people who are already are allergic to grains??? Are you allergic to grains? Sorry for the questions, I just want to know, since I'd never heard it before. I've always been taught that mucos came from dairy. Can you tell I really don't want to toss out the seeds???? Yes, I have majored on green leafies, apples,cabbage,some beets, green salad and carrots. I drink Neem tea, Fenugreek tea, Rosemary tea, and Sage tea sweetened with Stevia, which is a tonic as well as a sweetener. Lots of water also. To me this is about the cheapest, simplist way to go. Today is payday, and I'm out of everything except apples and pink grapefruit. If I'm allergic to anything, I don't know it-maybe have not recognized it. Mouth biting is a sign of detoxification?? I didn't know that either. How interesting. Olive oil bothers you???? What about raw olive oil that has not been heated? I've seen it, its too expensive for me. Have a wonderful day. Elaine(always full of questions) Peter Gardiner wrote: > Elaine, > > It is simple really. You just eat fruit instead. > > In my case I buy 4 kilo bags of apples for example. > Be careful of giving up too much all at once. > You might detoxify too fast. Best to take a few weeks > to gradually phase out the old poisons. Mouth sores and mouth > biting are a sign of detoxification. > > Other have written in books of items to avoid but here are > a few sneaky ones that have got on my nerves. > > Olive oil but all vegetable oils that have been extracted > from their source. > Brazil nuts unless I remove the shells > Mung beans > Excess citrus fruit in a cold climate > Garlic > Onions > > Hope this helps and if you need any explanation, just ask. > > Peter > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Thanks Elaine, For me the whole business of eating better has been a story of shifting targets or as the English love to say " moving goal posts " . This means. being English, that I could change my ideas and there is a certainty of one that I have neither reached perfection nor will not learn more than is state3d below. In addition I am not a medic but merely a practicing raw foodist. Thus I may end with more questions than I give answers. Sprouting has gone down in my estimation of what is good eating practice. Any seed can be sprouted. Terminology leads us to split seeds into grains, nuts and pulses, at least. Grains have had the klobber - they were introduced into the human diet only yesterday in the scale of time - simply too easy to reject as wholesome food - whole grain or not - sorry AMA. Nuts and pulses have received varying press according to enzyme theses and their benefit to consumption. It leaves me wondering at what point does a grain become a pulse or a nut. Years ago in a Company manual, the Company of in which I served, it was written, " Since it cannot be decided at what point a shrimp becomes a prawn only prawn cocktails will be served. " Pulses have another term in other dialect of our rich language - it has just slipped my pen in " cross pond dialect " . The upshot of all this is that I look with a weather eye upon the whole business of sprouting anything - grains, nuts and pulses. That means I expect movement upon my attitude to this subject especially in this forum where simple folk, such as myself, should have their fears and doubts grounded. Now we come to anther piece of shifting ground. Things completely fresh seem, to me, to have merit to me above those with better pretensions. Thus anything in season counts above anything organic and less than fresh. I speculate that a fresh nut in season has substance way beyond a dried out storage repository. Dare I even speculate that laboratory experiments conducted upon fresh anything as against acceptable values were considered as relevant. To me, fresh juicy chemical reared food takes precedence over days old organic. I do not deny that fresh juicy organic is tops - frankly I wobble every time I get the like. Fresh merits paranoia - the distinction between a plant hybridized by nature and that by some indifferent seed producer seems fuzzy. A tomato grown in a green house on water and chemicals seems beyond redemption; no matter what any dietician says. Fruit and vegetables put though the juicer or slicer get a life sentence of about 15 minutes at best in most experts view. Bang an apple and in about that 15 minutes it browns and putrified apple is the result. Do that in the stomach and the same chemistry is not applicable. Why so? Organic fresh hits the spot - but how often can you get it? Here in Brussels the answer is quite often. Roots, as in beetroot, are another eye catching point. I bought a beetroot then chopped it up and ate it. It changed the colour of my shit to the point where I thought that this stuff had not even started to be digested. It beefed up my skepticism of the value of roots. I do not know the answers. Then I come to the pouring of hot water upon any kind of leaves. My background of bad eating behaviour is sufficient to cause anaemia but in in the rebound, there is not one palliative in the herbal dictionary which has the slightest appeal to me. That could change if I were confronted by some life threatening situation. Your persuit of herbal palliative seems worthy of revision. Finally on economy raw foodists are blessed. Supermarkets pay premiums to get shelf-life length. The fellows I buy from have about one or two days to go. That leaves me with low priced, ripe fruit and vegetables which probably has not seen the inside of a supermarket gas chambre. There may be items on this post which extend beyond the scope of the forum, in which case please respond directly. All joy, Peter Gardiner Elaine Davis [twobears] jeudi 16 janvier 2003 15:28 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Hi, I'm new/Peter Perhaps I should introduce myself. My name is Elaine, and I've been a raw foodist before, enjoying every minute of it. I was anaemic due to problems before I went raw, so that really had to be addressed...now way down the road 3 years later, I have gone back to raw. I simply cannot go with my dh SAD way of eating any longer. It's more like a run amuck childish way of eating anything you see that you think tastes good with no thought about health whatsoever. When I was on raw food groups before, I never once heard anyone saying that raw soaked or sprouted grains were a problem for them. Presently, I am about 85% raw. I'm wearing out the lawn between the back door and the papaya trees(living in the south can be a good thing) Peter, I am curious - especially since I have a lot of seeds for making sprouts, have you heard of others who had a problem with sprouted grains as well? Is this people who are already are allergic to grains??? Are you allergic to grains? Sorry for the questions, I just want to know, since I'd never heard it before. I've always been taught that mucos came from dairy. Can you tell I really don't want to toss out the seeds???? Yes, I have majored on green leafies, apples, cabbage, some beets, green salad and carrots. I drink Neem tea, Fenugreek tea, Rosemary tea, and Sage tea sweetened with Stevia, which is a tonic as well as a sweetener. Lots of water also. To me this is about the cheapest, simplist way to go. Today is payday, and I'm out of everything except apples and pink grapefruit. If I'm allergic to anything, I don't know it-maybe have not recognized it. Mouth biting is a sign of detoxification?? I didn't know that either. How interesting. Olive oil bothers you???? What about raw olive oil that has not been heated? I've seen it, its too expensive for me. Have a wonderful day. Elaine(always full of questions) Peter Gardiner wrote: > Elaine, > > It is simple really. You just eat fruit instead. > > In my case I buy 4 kilo bags of apples for example. > Be careful of giving up too much all at once. > You might detoxify too fast. Best to take a few weeks > to gradually phase out the old poisons. Mouth sores and mouth > biting are a sign of detoxification. > > Other have written in books of items to avoid but here are > a few sneaky ones that have got on my nerves. > > Olive oil but all vegetable oils that have been extracted > from their source. > Brazil nuts unless I remove the shells > Mung beans > Excess citrus fruit in a cold climate > Garlic > Onions > > Hope this helps and if you need any explanation, just ask. > > Peter > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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