Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 WOW! thanks for the info!! Monte rawfood , carlo7 <carlo7@p...> wrote: > THE VITAMIN B12 ISSUE > > by Dr Gina Shaw, D.S., M.A., AIYS (Dip. Irid.) > > The subject of Vitamin B12 is not new to most vegans, vegetarians or > raw fooders. The supplement companies have many people running to > their local health (drug) stores in an effort to make themselves > deficiency-free, but is this a good idea? A number of issues will be > raised in this article and I will attempt to piece together some > information from many different and reliable (non-financially- > oriented) sources. > > A vitamin B12 deficiency is a serious disorder, but it is never just > a B12 deficiency because vitamin and mineral deficiencies never > happen in isolation. Indications of a deficiency of vitamin B12, > when they do reach a stage where they have shown up, can be quite > severe. Fatigue, paleness, anorexia, mental confusion, delusions, > paranoia, weight loss, etc. are just some indications that a person > may have a B12-deficiency. In my opinion, ME is a B12-deficiency > disorder. If you do think you may have a B12-deficiency, it would be > wise for you to seek the advice of a health practitioner (such as > myself) who is knowledgeable about B12-deficiencies, for immediate > advice. This disorder can eventually lead to death if left unchecked. > > UK official recommendations have decreased in recent years, the > body's needs having been previously over-estimated. Indeed, the > Department of Health recognises that some people have lower than > average requirements of B12. A whole lifetime's requirement of B12 > add up to a 40 milligram speck of red crystals, about one-seventh the > size of an average tablet of aspirin! Taking large doses of the > vitamin by mouth is pointless because 3ug is the most that can be > absorbed at any one time. > > Vitamin B12 is excreted in the bile and is effectively reabsorbed. > This is known as enterohepatic circulation. The amount of B12 > excreted in the bile can vary from 1 to 10ug (micrograms) a day. > People on diets low in B12, including vegans and some vegetarians, > may be obtaining more B12 from reabsorption than from dietary > sources. Reabsorption is the reason it can take over 20 years for a > deficiency disease to develop. In comparison, if B12 deficiency is > due to a failure in absorption, it can take only three years for a > deficiency disease to occur. Since vitamin B12 is recycled in a > healthy body, in principle, internal B12 synthesis could fulfil our > needs without any B12 provided in the diet, but if cobalt in our diet > is lacking, the problem is not so much a lack of B12 synthesising > intestinal flora, as a lack of cobalt (which again will need other > factors for efficient absorption). > > Among the many controversies surrounding vitamin B12, there is the > argument that, although intrinsic factor is produced in our stomachs > and that our intestines are known to produce vitamin B12, the > bacteria is produced too low down in the intestines and cannot be > absorbed by our bodies. This argument is sadly still hanging around, > however, according to Dr Vetrano, it was disproved by research over > 20 years ago and is nothing more than an obsolete scientific theory. > Indeed, in a 1999 version of `Human Anatomy and Physiology' by > Marieb, it states quite clearly that we do indeed absorb vitamin B12 > through our intestines. > > Many people say that the only foods which contain vitamin B12 are > animal-derived foods. This also is untrue. No foods naturally > contain vitamin B12 - neither animal or plant foods. Vitamin B12 is > a microbe - a bacteria - it is produced by microorganisms. Vitamin > B12 is the only vitamin that contains a trace element - cobalt - > which gives this vitamin its chemical name - cobalamin - which is at > the centre of its molecular structure. Humans and all vertebrates > require cobalt, although it is assimilated only in the form of > vitamin B12. > > B12 synthesis is known to occur naturally in the human small > intestine (in the ileum), which is the primary site of B12 > absorption. As long as gut bacteria have cobalt and certain other > nutrients, they produce vitamin B12. According to Dr Michael Klaper, > vitamin B12 is present in the mouth and intestines. B12 must be > combined with a mucoprotein enzyme named Intrinsic Factor, which is > normally present in gastric secretions, to be properly assimilated. > If the intrinsic factor is impaired or absent, B12 synthesis will not > take place, no matter how much is present in the diet. B12 > deficiency may be brought upon by antibiotics (also contained in > milk), alcohol, smoking and stress (alcohol damages the liver, so > drinkers need more B12, smoking (and all high temp cooked food is > smoky) also raises B12 needs). > > Many nutritional analyses of foodstuffs were carried out such a long > time ago, and, as such, have not taken account of more up-to-date > technology in scientific procedures. For instance, Tesco's > raspberries now state quite clearly that 100g of raspberries contain > 30% of the recommended daily allowance of vitamin B12. This cannot > be an isolated example of a plant food which contains B12! More > likely, it is just one plant food of many which contain this vitamin. > Indeed, according to Dr Vetrano, current books on nutrition in the > U.S. have now stated that there is B12 in any food that contains > quantities of the B vitamin complex, but previously they were just > not able to assay the amounts. Nowadays, more modern technology has > allowed them to discover that there is B12 in those foods rich in the > B complex. > > The author does not believe that a vitamin B12 deficiency is more > widespread in vegans or vegetarians - this is probably just another > marketing lie! In fact, many so-called studies `showing vegans > deficient' have to be carefully studies themselves - many of them do > not prove vegans to be deficient at all! In fact, contrary to meat > and dairy industry propaganda, meat-eaters are known to be more > likely to have a vitamin B12 deficiency - this has been known since > 1959!!(1) > > Having said this, we must bear in mind that many vegetarians and > vegans still take antibiotics or consume antibiotic-containing foods > such as onions, garlic, strong radishes and other foods rich in > mustard oil, which are lethal to intestinal flora. The trouble is > that once we have damaged our intestinal flora, it is difficult to > correct without proper and knowledgeable healthcare and dietary > advice. It is of far greater importance to correct intestinal flora > problems than to rely on so-called supplements. People who have a > physical problem because they think they are not getting enough > vitamin B12, are in fact often not assimilating their foods properly > because of poor digestion. When digestion is straightened out, B12 > can be utilized and produced once again > > According to Marieb's `Human Anatomy and Physiology', vitamin B12 can > be destroyed by highly alkaline and highly acid conditions. This > assumes that the B12 in meat would be easily destroyed because the > hydrochloric acid in our stomaches during the digestion of meat is > highly acidic. This may explain why meat-eaters are just as likely to > have a B12 deficiency as vegans - even though their diet contains > vitamin B12. Also, for meat-eaters, there is antiobiotics contained > in meat! Of course, many meat-eaters destroy their friendly bacteria > in their intestines by constant putrefaction and the putrefactive > bacteria naturally present in meat will give the body a hard time. > > Another side to the equation is that low serum B12 levels do not > equate to a B12 deficiency necessarily. Just because there is a low > level of B12 in the bloodstream, this does not mean that there is a > deficiency in the body as a whole, it may well be being utilised by > the living cells (such as the central nervous system). In any case, > a person who takes supplements may well have `vitamin B12' floating > in their bloodstream, but this does not mean it is usable to the > human body as synthetic, inorganic vitamins are not. > > The illusionary benefits of supplement-taking result in the person's > increased metabolism in order to expel these harmful substances as > quickly as possible. This results in a stimulation of the body and > the illusion of an improvement in health. The truth is that there is > a very delicate balance among hormone secretions, vitamins, enzymes, > minerals, etc. This is something that scientists know very little > about. These substances do not work alone, but in fact require other > factors for them to be effective, like fats, etc. We know very > little about life within a cell. The use of supplements can disturb > this delicate balance and diminish the efficiency of body > functions. Health is reduced commensurate to the imbalance that > occurs. > > Commercially, vitamin B12 tablets are made from bacteria and the > bacteria is deeply fermented. A healthy body will usually expel > fermented substances. The main problem with pill supplements is that > they: 1) Do not contain the hundreds of other nutrients we may need > to be healthy that raw foods provide, and 2) they contain artificial > substances/contaminants that are detrimental to health. > > Synthetic vitamins and minerals are inorganic and are therefore > unusable by the human body. In the manufacture of `food > supplements', chemically pure substances must be used for the most > part. If the scientists used naturally derived nutrients, their > pills would be too large for us to swallow. Additionally, a > chemical `carrier' is added to make the products acceptable to the > palate of the consumer and to bring their product up to an acceptable > standard. These chemical carriers, as with all chemicals, are toxic > to the human organism. They result in stimulation of the body and an > illusionary cure. > > According to Dr. John Potter PhD, of Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center, > Seattle, " Food's magic is based on thousands of complex interactions > of dozens of different phytochemicals which are difficult to recreate > in pills. While 190 solid studies prove that fruit and vegetables > benefit, supplements have only a smattering of evidence " . Vitamins, > minerals, hormones, etc. do not work in isolation, they work > symbiotically. They work with other nutrients in order for their > work to be carried out. When these highly complex substances are > disturbed, their overall effectiveness can be reduced. However, too > much of a nutrient is draining on our vital energy as the human (or > non-human) organism may have to expel a nutrient overload. Also, it > is doubtful whether, even if you do have a B12 deficiency, you have > only a B12 deficiency. A healthier diet and living conditions, as > well as a fast may be in order. > > According to Dr Douglas Graham, in his book `Nutrition and Athletic > Performance', supplementation has proven to be an inadequate and > incomplete method of supplying nutrients as scientists cannot match > nature's refined balances. He says that since an estimated ninety > per cent of all nutrients are as yet undiscovered, why would we want > to start adding nutrients into our diet one at a time rather than > eating whole foods? Most nutrients are known to interact > symbiotically with at least eight other nutrients and considering > this, the odds of healthfully supplying any nutrients in its > necessary component package becomes `infinitesimally minute'. More > to the point he adds, `there has never been a successful attempt to > keep an animal or human healthy, or even alive, on a diet composed > strictly of nutritional supplements'. > > Dan Reeter, at Bio-Systems Laboratories in Colorado is creating one > of the world's most comprehensive computer facilities for soil > biology testing. He says that, from his extensive tests, plants > grown in organically-managed soil make significantly higher levels of > usable vitamin B12. It has also been reported that vitamin B12 is > present in wild fruits and wild and home-grown plant foods. > > The author contends that animal and dairy produce is a poor source of > Vitamin B12 since the vitamin is contained in nutrient-deranged > foodstuffs which will inevitably destroy the usability of the > vitamin. Studies show that those following a typical animal-based > diet require more vitamin B12 than those who do not. This is because > the typical diet leads to digestive atrophy. Because B12 is peptide- > bound in animal products and must be enzymatically cleaved from the > peptide bonds to be absorbed, a weakened gastric acid and gastric > enzyme secretions (due to a cooked food diet) causes an inability to > efficiently extract vitamin B12 from external food. Nevertheless, > raw food vegans who have a more powerful digestion actually get more > B12 by reabsorption from the bile than they do from external food. > Wolfe argues that the natural soil microbes and bacteria found on > wild plant foods and unwashed garden plants are typically adequate to > supply our B12 requirements. The natural microbes in the soil need to > be duplicated and to colonise in our digestive tract, without > fermentation or putrefaction. > > Another point worth considering is that vitamin B12 Recommended Daily > Allowances (RDA's) are based upon the average cooked food (meat and > two veg), smoking, drinking person. Commercial interests have indeed > grossly exaggerated our needs for many nutrients. These studies tell > us nothing of the requirements for a healthy vegetarian. It is very > difficult to determine precise individual needs of any vitamin or > nutrient, and an overload of any vitamin or other nutrient creates an > unnecessary burden on our vital domain. Factors such as rate of > metabolism, stress, etc. can determine our differing and often > changing needs. Dr Victor Herbert reported in the American Journal > of Clinical Nutrition (1998, Volume 48) that only 0.00000035 ounces > (1 microgram) of vitamin B12 is required per day. These minimum > vitamin requirements may be inadequate to explain the needs of a > healthy raw food vegan, for example, who may require less B12 due to > an improved gastric ability and a high ability to recycle vitamin > B12. (Cooking destroys microbes and a highly sterilised, cooked > vegan diet may not provide the intestines with enough good quality > flora). Absorption rates of B12 are higher in healthy individuals > than in unhealthy individuals. Studies, based on healthy Indian > vegetarian villagers, showed that none of them exhibited symptoms of > B12 deficiency, despite levels of .3-.5 micrograms of B12. > > Dr Gabriel Cousens argues that vitamin B12 deficiency is typically > caused by lack of absorption in the intestinal tract rather than a > lack of this vitamin in the diet. Annie and Dr David Jubb argue that > people have lived in such a sterile, antiseptic environment for so > long that these necessary symbiotic organisms have been less than > present in our diet. They argue that by ingesting soil-born > organisms you can maintain an enormous reservoir of uncoded > antibodies ready to transform specific pathogens, the way nature > intended - by eating a little dirt! > > If a person is healthy and on a healthy vegan, high-percentage raw > food diet and does not habitually over-eat, wrongly combine their > foods and abuse their bodies generally, and utilises fasting on > occasion, it is unlikely that they will develop B12 deficiency > symptoms providing their intestinal flora was not previously > deranged. Vitamin B12 deficiency is usually symptomatic of a larger > problem i.e. poor intestinal flora, poor absorption and also lack of > sunlight. > > Harvey Diamond argues that the entire nutrient issue has been made so > confusing with contradictory information that it is no wonder that > people are bewildered about where to obtain sufficient nutrients. > Unfortunately, some people have been so totally misguided and scared > that no amount of common-sense reasoning of even factual data can > rescue them from the meat, dairy and petrochemical (synthetic > food `supplement' suppliers) multi-million pound industries. The > truth is that whatever nutrients the body needs will be contained in > its natural foods (for human beings, raw plant foods). Mother Nature > knows how to provide for her own. Why would it be that we are > created in such a way as to make us a natural plant-eater and hey > presto, there is no vitamin B12 provided for us by plants? If you > can't get it from raw fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds or sprouts then > WE DON'T NEED IT! Just because a wild fruit or organic foodstuff > contains only a small amount, this does not mean it is deficient. > It means that we only need a small amount! > > The pill pushers are quick to say that our soil is deficient, but > according to Diamond and others, if a seed does not receive the > elements it needs IT WILL NOT GROW (OR WILL GROW POORLY - author). > Also, plants obtain nutrients from other sources in greater amounts: > the sun, water and the air. Plants actually obtain only about 1% of > nutrients from the soil. > > If you do develop a B12 deficiency, certain urgent dietary > adjustments may need to be made, and there is a possibility that > fasting is in order. In any case, on switching to a healthier diet, > be it vegetarian, vegan or raw food (for optimum health), we should > go back to nature as much as possible and pay little attention to > germ phobics who advise us to scrub our vegetables and fruits. Buy > organic and eat home-grown or wild foods and do not clean them too > scrupulously! Just as nature intended!. > > Please note that it is not recommended for anyone to go on a fast of > longer duration than 1½ days wihtout competent supervision, as > prolonged fasts must be monitored by a qualified fasting supervisor. > > Dr Shaw is available for health and nutritional consultations, > fasting supervision, courses in natural health, emotional healing and > iris analysis (iridology). Her address is: True Health, c/o 8 > Marston Rd, Clayhall, Essex IG5 OLZ, telephone 020 8351 0086/8550 > 0374. Email GinaShw@a... Visit her web site at > http://vibrancy.homestead.com/pageone.html > > 1. `Fit for Life', Diamond, H. and M., 1987 > > 2. `The Life Science Institute Course in Natural Health' - 1986 > > 3. `Nutrition and Athletic Performance', Dr D. Graham, 1999 > > 4. `Female Balance' article 2001 -K Perrero www.living-foods.com > > 5. Human Anatomy and Phyisology - Marieb - 1999 > > 6. Correspondence with Dr Vetrano and family 2001 > > 7. `The Sunfood Diet Success Story' by David Wolfe > > 8. B12 article by the Vegan Society > > 9 . B12 article by the Vegetarian Society > > 10. 1990 `Solstice Magazine' article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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