Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 <<It also gives an in-depth discussion proving that humans are natural frugivores.>> Humans are omnivores. We are quite capable of consuming meat and vegetation. I dont prefer to eat meat over vegetation, but I dont argue that our ancestors didnt eat meat, as we know they did. Since the advent of mans use of fire we know that humans began cooking their food. This meant changes in the gut, jaw and teeth primarily. Because we cooked our food, we have developed a set of teeth conditioned to chewing pre-prepared food. Analysis of teeth of ancient human remains tells us the secret of paleodiets. A reduction in thickness of enamel, shrinking of canine size and shortening of the gut all add up to omnivores that often cooked their food. It has to be remembered that much food was also eaten raw. Generally, meat was cooked in later stages of human histroy. Ok Mark, on this point I'll have to disagree. Much of our disagreement will come down to the interpretation of facts and of which facts someone believes are more important. For one thing I don't believe in the theory of evolution. For me this is a complete turnaround. Something which I have recently come to believe. But this affects the argument on whether or not we have evolved to eat meat. I believe we have not evolved to eat meat. If you take any kind of serious look at our physical structure you'll see we don't have characteristics in common with omnivores. We are actually the closest to gorillas or chimpanzees in most of our features. Just ask yourself this? Do you feel the desire to hunt down a wild deer and rip into it with your teeth and hands? Do you then desire to eat it raw with all the blood and bones? Since it is fairly obvious that cooking meat is bad for us then we should desire to eat it raw. Most people don't relish this option. Heck it's just been proven that frying just about any kind of food produces very high amounts of the likely carcinogenic substance acrylamide. I'll post a recent article on that issue for everyone else to see. Back to the omnivore or frugivores debate. I have debated someone who knew a lot on this topic. We as humans could not have survived very well when we first arrived on this planet by hunting. We would have at least needed tools since we are not natural hunters. I simply don't think that we have evolved to eat meat. Since it is known that early man was a strict frugivore by the striations marks left on the teeth. I do think our bodies adapt as best as possible to our eating transgressions, but we will not have great health if we do not eat what we were designed to eat as humans. Adaptation being different from evolution. We don't have claws, we don't have sharp teeth to rip into pray. We don't have the speed to hunt down most animals. Yes we do have a brain that eventually allowed us to do this. But if you look at our design, we were designed to pick fruits and vegetables, not to hunt down animals. To me it's just common sense after I looked at the facts. Just because at some point down the line, man decided to hunt meat and cook his food does not necessarily mean that it was the optimal thing for them to be eating. Human gut is about 10 times the length of our bodies. This is the same as in the primates who are frugivores. Omnivores guts are only 10 times the length of their bodies. A carnivore's gut is only 3 times the length of their body and that of a herbivore is 30 times the length of its body. So it seems we are closest in that respect to the frugivores the anthropoid apes. Baker's book literally has at least a hundred different reasons why we are frugivores and not omnivores or even carnivores. Again it is not my field of specialization but that argument is extremely convincing to me. Of course then someone will come up with the B12 argument. The bacteria in our bodies produce B12 for us. Also it has been found that 95% of people with B12 deficiency happen to be meat eaters. Our current forms of inorganic farming reduce the natural amounts of B12 that should be found in foods. According to Dr. Graham the United States is having a B12 deficiency crisis for meat eaters and vegetarians. Dr. Graham spoke extensively on this issue at one of his lectures that I attended. He recommended eating organic foods and not washing them off. Somehow the dirt on lettuce for instance would have the B12 on it. However, I don't think that is important since the body can produce its own B12 with the help of our bacteria friends. Cheers, Roger (Is Cheers a British kind of thing to say? I like it.) P.S. Would you like to Discover the Easiest and Most Powerful Peak Performance Program on the planet? 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