[gorillakeepers] gorillas as gifts?

[Guest guest]

PS. Meant to say gorillas from both Germany AND the Netherlands are going ...

sorry for the confusion. j.

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Jane T. R. Dewar

gorillakeepers ; Asian Animal Protection

Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:15 PM

[gorillakeepers] gorillas as gifts?

 

 

http://www.prowildlife.de/de/Presse/Archiv_2005/PM-Gorillas-China_2005/pm-gorill\

as-china_2005.html

 

This is " auf Deutsch " - in German - but basically it refers to the move of

some gorillas from German zoos to Shanghai in China as a " state gift " from the

government of the Netherlands to China ...I've also heard it's a routine

transfer from one EEP zoo to another and not a state gift.

 

If anyone out there cares to post a rough English translation, thanks in

advance. My german ain't what it used to be, but the gist, I think, is

ProWildlife opposes the transfer, based on Shanghai's long history of alleged

animal abuse, etc. I have photos of the gorilla enclosure there in 2002, but

have heard they have made changes, including a new chimp facility, ok'd by Jane

Goodall ...

 

Anyone out there know more about this?

 

Thanks!

 

Jane

 

[Guest guest]

Vielen Dank, Herma!! ;-)

 

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" hecal_2000 " <hecal_2000

" Jane T. R. Dewar " <jdewar

Friday, September 02, 2005 4:46 AM

Re: [gorillakeepers] gorillas as gifts?

 

 

here is a rough translation of the quoted article:

 

....German zoo-gorillas a state gift for China?

 

Conservationists criticize dubious deal - the destination zoo

Shanghai is criticized because of cruelty to animals

 

Munich, 29 August 2005 - On Wednesday a long odyssey for German zoo

gorillas is going to start, ending in the Shanghai zoo which is

notorious for its cruelty to animals. Gorilla-boy Bokito (9) from

the Berlin zoo will arrive on 31 August in the safari park

Hodenhagen/Germany from where he will be sent to

Rotterdam/Netherlands, together with gorilla-girl Quenta from the

zoo Saarbruecken (Germany) and a Dutch animal. From there the

gorillas will be transferred as an official " Netherlands state

gift " to China - and to the zoo of Shanghai of all places.

 

" Our photos from Shanghai document the abuse of animals for circus

shows. This fate will now also hit the gorillas from Berlin and

Saarbruecken " , criticizes Dr. Sandra Altherr of PRO WILDLIFE. The

animal protection organization has called upon the zoos to refrain

from handing the animals over to China.

 

(They then give some examples of animal transfers which went wrong

in the past and were prevented)

 

There are no animal protection laws in China and the conditions in

zoos are frequently catastrophic. Abuse of animals is normal which

makes it even more disconcerting that the zoos of Berlin,

Saarbruecken and Rotterdam entrust the Shanghai zoo now with the

fate of the gorillas (...) PRO WILDLIFE calls these plans

irresponsible (.)

 

It is also absurd that, according to the stopover safari park

Hodenhagen, gorillas brought up in Germany will be

declared " Netherlands state gift " . PRO WILDLIFE found out that

Rotterdam expects in in return rare animals that live only in China

(.).............

 

Note: The Berlin zoo has often been critized because they allegedly

wanted to get rid of older animals (chimps) in order to make room

for young ones attracting more visitor interest.

 

hope that helps

Herma

 

 

 

aapn , " Jane T. R. Dewar " <jdewar@g...> wrote:

> PS. Meant to say gorillas from both Germany AND the Netherlands

are going ... sorry for the confusion. j.

> -

> Jane T. R. Dewar

> gorillakeepers ; Asian Animal Protection

> Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:15 PM

> [gorillakeepers] gorillas as gifts?

>

>

> http://www.prowildlife.de/de/Presse/Archiv_2005/PM-Gorillas-

China_2005/pm-gorillas-china_2005.html

>

> This is " auf Deutsch " - in German - but basically it refers to

the move of some gorillas from German zoos to Shanghai in China as

a " state gift " from the government of the Netherlands to

China ...I've also heard it's a routine transfer from one EEP zoo to

another and not a state gift.

>

> If anyone out there cares to post a rough English translation,

thanks in advance. My german ain't what it used to be, but the gist,

I think, is ProWildlife opposes the transfer, based on Shanghai's

long history of alleged animal abuse, etc. I have photos of the

gorilla enclosure there in 2002, but have heard they have made

changes, including a new chimp facility, ok'd by Jane Goodall ...

>

> Anyone out there know more about this?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Jane

>

>