Dogs electrocuted in Manila Pound - cost is the factor

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http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200507086303.htm

 

Because of economics, the poor dogs are subjected to a painful death.

Any opinions from the group?

[Guest guest]

I am appalled that Manila should take such a retrograde step replacing

lethal injection with electrocution.

Electrocution is probably the most inhumane method that can be adopted.

 

Electrocution is not an acceptable method of killing even by the AVMA panel

on euthanasia.

It is also surprising that the municipality are experimenting with a method

of electrocution

starting with a 100 volt jolt going upto 500 volts.

 

While it can be argued that a suitable current through the brain can cause

unconsciousness, left to

poorly motivated and trained municipal workers, the current will just be

paseed through the heart to cause

death ultimately.

 

During such an operation, the animal is a state of screaming agony from the

injury to the heart, but is prevented from giving any expression to its

distress on account of the paralysis imposed by the action of the electric

current as long as it is on.

 

A report in the Veterinary Record in 1954, commenting on the electrocution

cabinets then in use, states " .. During the shock most of the animal's

muscles are in a state of tetanic contraction from the direct action of the

current and cannot therefore exhibit reflex movement; immediately after the

current has been switched off, the musculature may still be prevented by

fatigue from showing reflex movements. Such a state of paralysis-comparable

to curarisation-is not necessarily associated with unconsciousness " .

 

The comparison with curarisation emphasizes the special horror of the

suffering undergone by animals in this type of electrocution. Claude

Bernard, describing the effect of curare, said : " In this motionless body,

behind the glazing eye, and with all the apprearance of death, sensitiveness

and intelligence persist in their entirety. The corpse before us hears and

distinguishes all that is done around it. It suffers when pinched or

irritated; in a word, it has still consciousness and volition, but it has

lost the instruments which serve to manifest them " .

 

All will agree that electrocution is not an option. The only viable

long-term solution for the issue of dog control is by an aggresive

spay-and-return project where the animal is caught, spayed, vaccinated and

returned to the place from where it was caught.

 

Dr. S. Chinny Krishna

Blue Cross of India

 

 

ligayadiy [ligayadiy]

Friday, July 08, 2005 6:41 AM

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Dogs electrocuted in Manila Pound - cost is the factor

 

 

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200507086303.htm

 

Because of economics, the poor dogs are subjected to a painful death.

Any opinions from the group?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi, all

 

News like this always make me feel deep repel and anger because they

make me conceive how cruel can our kind be towards other forms of life.

What can I say? I believe society and authorities in Philippines should

first of all choose sides. I mean they have to decide whether they are

animal friends or animal torturers. Care and love for animals is not

pointed out by big and glamorous events but it is proved every day,

every minute. Saving a stray dog or cat is much more useful and humane

than loudly demonstrating your animal friend feelings everytime press is

around. Since Phillipines confront a great problem with stray animals

why don't they plan and implement a sterilization and birth control

program towards these animals? It's much more humane and civilized than

" fry " them in tiny metal cages. Tell me the truth, dear Sirs: Would you

like you or your children to be in these poor creatures' position? Give

it some thought and maybe your humanity will awake and lead you to the

right decisions.

 

With best regards,

Maria, Greece

 

ligayadiy wrote:

 

>http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200507086303.htm

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>Because of economics, the poor dogs are subjected to a painful death.

>Any opinions from the group?

>

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>For more information on Asian animal issues, please use the search feature on

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[Guest guest]

I have forwarded you resume to several animal welfare organizations, and sent

you a copy. I hope this helps.

Patricia

 

 

 

 

Nika Maria <mani wrote:

 

>Hi, all

>

>    News like this always make me feel deep repel and anger because they

>make me conceive how cruel can our kind be towards other forms of life.

>What can I say? I believe society and authorities in Philippines should

>first of all choose sides. I mean they have to decide whether they are

>animal friends or animal torturers. Care and love for animals is not

>pointed out by big and glamorous events but it is proved every day,

>every minute. Saving a stray dog or cat is much more useful and humane

>than loudly demonstrating your animal friend feelings everytime press is

>around. Since Phillipines confront a great problem with stray animals

>why don't they plan and implement a sterilization and birth control

>program towards these animals? It's much more humane and civilized than

> " fry " them in tiny metal cages. Tell me the truth, dear Sirs: Would you

>like you or your children to be in these poor creatures' position? Give

>it some thought and maybe your humanity will awake and lead you to the

>right decisions.

>

>With best regards,

>Maria, Greece

>

>ligayadiy wrote:

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>>http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200507086303.htm

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>>Because of economics, the poor dogs are subjected to a painful death.

>>Any opinions from the group?

>>

>>

>>

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>>

>>For more information on Asian animal issues, please use the search feature on

the AAPN website: http://www.aapn.org/ or search the list archives at:

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[Guest guest]

Japan is very similar with their outlook on euthanising strays or owner turn in

animals. A country so rich and advanced in every other aspect is still gassing.

 

Clearly, these dogs suffer a painful death. If you have any information on the

effects of gas and how these animals suffer before dying I would really

appreciate it if you shared it with me. Unknown to many, animals that are over

three months old cannot be adopted out in Japan and are destined for the gas

chamber. Most of these animals are healthy and would make great companions to

anyone.

 

I would also be interested in information on cost comparing gas vs lethal

injection.

 

Thanks,

 

Liz

Okinawa, Japan

 

" Dr.S.Chinny Krishna " <drkrishna wrote:

I am appalled that Manila should take such a retrograde step replacing

lethal injection with electrocution.

Electrocution is probably the most inhumane method that can be adopted.

 

Electrocution is not an acceptable method of killing even by the AVMA panel

on euthanasia.

It is also surprising that the municipality are experimenting with a method

of electrocution

starting with a 100 volt jolt going upto 500 volts.

 

While it can be argued that a suitable current through the brain can cause

unconsciousness, left to

poorly motivated and trained municipal workers, the current will just be

paseed through the heart to cause

death ultimately.

 

During such an operation, the animal is a state of screaming agony from the

injury to the heart, but is prevented from giving any expression to its

distress on account of the paralysis imposed by the action of the electric

current as long as it is on.

 

A report in the Veterinary Record in 1954, commenting on the electrocution

cabinets then in use, states " .. During the shock most of the animal's

muscles are in a state of tetanic contraction from the direct action of the

current and cannot therefore exhibit reflex movement; immediately after the

current has been switched off, the musculature may still be prevented by

fatigue from showing reflex movements. Such a state of paralysis-comparable

to curarisation-is not necessarily associated with unconsciousness " .

 

The comparison with curarisation emphasizes the special horror of the

suffering undergone by animals in this type of electrocution. Claude

Bernard, describing the effect of curare, said : " In this motionless body,

behind the glazing eye, and with all the apprearance of death, sensitiveness

and intelligence persist in their entirety. The corpse before us hears and

distinguishes all that is done around it. It suffers when pinched or

irritated; in a word, it has still consciousness and volition, but it has

lost the instruments which serve to manifest them " .

 

All will agree that electrocution is not an option. The only viable

long-term solution for the issue of dog control is by an aggresive

spay-and-return project where the animal is caught, spayed, vaccinated and

returned to the place from where it was caught.

 

Dr. S. Chinny Krishna

Blue Cross of India

 

 

ligayadiy [ligayadiy]

Friday, July 08, 2005 6:41 AM

aapn

Dogs electrocuted in Manila Pound - cost is the factor

 

 

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200507086303.htm

 

Because of economics, the poor dogs are subjected to a painful death.

Any opinions from the group?

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information on Asian animal issues, please use the search feature

on the AAPN website: http://www.aapn.org/ or search the list archives at:

aapn

Please feel free to send any relevant news or comments to the list at

aapn

 

[Guest guest]

It is surprising that when considering the costs of any programme,

one can even compare the cost of one tiny, insignificant activity

while deciding the issue.

 

The cost of man power and other expenses for catching; transporting;

feeding and housing for the minimum period required; equipment; and

disposal of the bodies remain the same irrespective of the method of

killing. These taken together would constitute 90% or more

of the cost of the programme. The actual killing process will be

only a tiny fraction of the overall cost.

 

If, therefore, any civic body is still thinking of continuing a practice

of animal control which has been shown to be a total failure instead of

going in for the much more humane alternatives available, they must

remember that the total cost of the programme is hardly affected by the

method of killing. Under these circumstances, why not at least go in

for the most humane and painless method? Are the programme officials

so morally bankrupt that they do not even consider the pain and agony

the animals are subject to?

 

India and Turkey have stopped the killing of street dogs and gone in for

agressive catch-neuter-vaccinate-and-release programmes with great success

wherever they have been adopted. Surely Japan, which yesterday promised

$50 billion to eradicate poverty in Africa, is wealthy enough to adopt the

least painful method of killing if they have to kill at all.

 

 

Dr. S. Chinny Krishna

Blue Cross of India

 

 

OAARS [oaars_cares]

Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:38 AM

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RE: Dogs electrocuted in Manila Pound - cost is the

factor

 

 

Japan is very similar with their outlook on euthanising strays or owner turn

in animals. A country so rich and advanced in every other aspect is still

gassing.

 

Clearly, these dogs suffer a painful death. If you have any information on

the effects of gas and how these animals suffer before dying I would really

appreciate it if you shared it with me. Unknown to many, animals that are

over three months old cannot be adopted out in Japan and are destined for

the gas chamber. Most of these animals are healthy and would make great

companions to anyone.

 

I would also be interested in information on cost comparing gas vs lethal

injection.

 

Thanks,

 

Liz

Okinawa, Japan

 

" Dr.S.Chinny Krishna " <drkrishna wrote:

I am appalled that Manila should take such a retrograde step replacing

lethal injection with electrocution.

Electrocution is probably the most inhumane method that can be adopted.

 

Electrocution is not an acceptable method of killing even by the AVMA panel

on euthanasia.

It is also surprising that the municipality are experimenting with a method

of electrocution

starting with a 100 volt jolt going upto 500 volts.

 

While it can be argued that a suitable current through the brain can cause

unconsciousness, left to

poorly motivated and trained municipal workers, the current will just be

paseed through the heart to cause

death ultimately.

 

During such an operation, the animal is a state of screaming agony from the

injury to the heart, but is prevented from giving any expression to its

distress on account of the paralysis imposed by the action of the electric

current as long as it is on.

 

A report in the Veterinary Record in 1954, commenting on the electrocution

cabinets then in use, states " .. During the shock most of the animal's

muscles are in a state of tetanic contraction from the direct action of the

current and cannot therefore exhibit reflex movement; immediately after the

current has been switched off, the musculature may still be prevented by

fatigue from showing reflex movements. Such a state of paralysis-comparable

to curarisation-is not necessarily associated with unconsciousness " .

 

The comparison with curarisation emphasizes the special horror of the

suffering undergone by animals in this type of electrocution. Claude

Bernard, describing the effect of curare, said : " In this motionless body,

behind the glazing eye, and with all the apprearance of death, sensitiveness

and intelligence persist in their entirety. The corpse before us hears and

distinguishes all that is done around it. It suffers when pinched or

irritated; in a word, it has still consciousness and volition, but it has

lost the instruments which serve to manifest them " .

 

All will agree that electrocution is not an option. The only viable

long-term solution for the issue of dog control is by an aggresive

spay-and-return project where the animal is caught, spayed, vaccinated and

returned to the place from where it was caught.

 

Dr. S. Chinny Krishna

Blue Cross of India

 

 

ligayadiy [ligayadiy]

Friday, July 08, 2005 6:41 AM

aapn

Dogs electrocuted in Manila Pound - cost is the factor

 

 

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200507086303.htm

 

Because of economics, the poor dogs are subjected to a painful death.

Any opinions from the group?

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information on Asian animal issues, please use the search feature

on the AAPN website: http://www.aapn.org/ or search the list archives at:

aapn

Please feel free to send any relevant news or comments to the list at

aapn