Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 >X-Sender: anmlpepl >Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:45:22 -0800 >PV1mail >Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl > > >>>I'd like to comment on your messages regarding the IDA's work with Korean >>>dogs and cats. First, I believe your organization and others like yours are >>>taking a " political " attitude on the animal rights issue. > > >Dear Patricia: > > Legislation is by definition in the political area. The >topic under discussion is proposed legislation--in this case, in >Korea. > > If you don't want to engage in politics, you will not be >engaged in the process of making change. > >>>How can you say that it is " outrageous " to help animals suffering, >>>needlessly? > > It is outrageous to claim credit for a piece of legislation >one had very little to do with obtaining, and it is both NOT >helping animals and outrageous to endorse and urge the passage of a >piece of legislation which--as it turns out--has been crafted to >exempt from coverage all the dogs and cats who are raised and >slaughtered for meat, rather than being kept as pets. > >>>That is what you are really saying, when you don't give credit to honest, >>>dedicated and compassionate individuals like Kristie and all in her >>>organization who try to act on their care and compassion to help >>>animals even in other countries such as Korea. > > Kristie, by jumping the gun, just gave the dog meat >industry and the pro-dog meat Korean politicians the opportunity to >claim (albeit erroneously) that one of the major U.S. animal rights >groups has endorsed a bill which would in effect legalize the dog >and cat meat industries and exempt them from coverage by humane >legislation. > > I know she didn't mean to do that, but she did do that, by >not waiting for the various Korean pro-animal organizations to >finish their analysis and translation of the bill--especially the >Korean Animal Protection Society. > > Kristie is young enough yet to develop the tactical and >political wisdom to avoid making that sort of dimwitted mistake in >the future, and being called to account here and now should help >her. > > I can tell you this: she is lucky is is not in the news >business, because a young reporter who misattributed and >misdescribed a breaking news development to the extent that she did >might soon be an ex-reporter. She would certainly get a chewing out >from the senior editor. > >>> Your organization and others may be forgetting that we >>>are all working on the same side, even individuals like me who can do at >>>least something as simple as asking to sign petitions or similar things. > > We're not working on the same side as airheads whose tactics >help the opposition. > > If you see one in the mirror, wise up. > >>>If IDA believed that because of the protests and similar actions to help the >>>animals in Korea influenced the recent news of revising the animal >>>protection >>>laws in the Ministry of Agriculture in Korea, I'm sure it was an honest >>>mistake. IDA is a wonderful organization that has accomplished >>>numerous things for animals all over the world (You can check >>>their website) > > 1) We have known Elliot Katz practically since IDA started. >IDA is at times among our advertisers, made a small grant to us >this year, and I personally am also a key witness for IDA in a >current court case. I'll drink a beer with Elliot any time. That >does not mean that IDA people including Elliot are not capable of >screwing up, or should be exempted from hearing about it. > > [Conversely, Elliot has never to my knowledge refrained from >letting me hear about it when he thinks we've screwed up.] > > 2) If you judge organizations chiefly by what you see at web >sites, you need to learn the value and importance of getting a >second source. > >>>How many people do you know who would be ready to make protests on >>>a cold, wintery day, place herself inside a cage in front of a >>>public building and risk even her safety for the animals? > > How many people do you know who would spend two hours in the >Moran Market outside of Seoul taking the very photos that IDA (and >dozens of other animal advocacy groups) are using in their campaign? >Kim did, and damned near died of pneumonia afterward, induced by >the stress. > > I was right there with her the whole time, standing between >her and the dog meat butchers who were hoping to grab her camera or >her film, taking their pushes and punches from behind in calm >stride and passing out business cards and samples of ANIMAL PEOPLE. > > That's the way we do things: get the facts first, get the >information out there, don't let anyone intimidate us, and don't >pretend to be anything we're not. > > Cheers, > >Merritt Clifton >Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE >P.O. Box 960 >Clinton, WA 98236 > >Telephone: 360-579-2505 >Fax: 360-579-2575 >E-mail: anmlpepl >Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org > >[ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing >original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, >founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the >decision-makers at more than 9,500 animal protection organizations. >We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity.] >------- >> >>ANPEOPLE, aapn >>PV1mail >>Mailing-List: list aapn ; contact aapn-owner >>Delivered-mailing list aapn >>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:45:39 EST >> " Korean dog update " >> >>Dear Kim, >> >>I'd like to comment on your messages regarding the IDA's work with Korean >>dogs and cats. First, I believe your organization and others like yours are >>taking a " political " attitude on the animal rights issue. >> >>How can you say that it is " outrageous " to help animals suffering, >>needlessly? That is what you are really saying, when you don't >>give credit to honest, >>dedicated and compassionate individuals like Kristie and all in her >>organization who try to act on their care and compassion to help >>animals even in other >>countries such as Korea. Your organization and others may be >>forgetting that we >>are all working on the same side, even individuals like me who can do at >>least something as simple as asking to sign petitions or similar things. >> >>If IDA believed that because of the protests and similar actions to help the >>animals in Korea influenced the recent news of revising the animal protection >>laws in the Ministry of Agriculture in Korea, I'm sure it was an honest >>mistake. IDA is a wonderful organization that has accomplished >>numerous things for >>animals all over the world (You can check their website) and they do it to >>take credit or stand out, they do it because they are >>compassionate, hard-working >>individuals. >> >>I believe that action is more important than just awareness. The fact that >>you belittle their hard work and dedication, when they wouldn't have to do >>anything at all is to my opinion inconsiderate and arrogant. How >>many people do >>you know who would be ready to make protests on a cold, wintery day, place >>herself inside a cage in front of a public building and risk even >>her safety for >>the animals? I think we should be >>grateful to IDA to everyone who does anything to help the defenseless >>suffering. >> >>Sincerely, >> >>Patricia V. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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