Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi, Re racial slurs etc. re Korea. If such slurs are made because of some Koreans cruelty to companion animals, then the people making the slurs are not only racist but are stupid speciests also. It might be a good idea remember there is EXTREME cruelty to animals around the world and in most countries. I emphasise the word extreme. Making racial slurs on this matter is pointless and even moreso because of the hypocritical nature of the slurs which will do nothing but damage the cause of animal welfare and rights. I live in Australia and Australia would have to be near the top of the list of countries who are extremely cruel to animals. Baby kangaroo joeys are reportedly bludgeoned to death by hunters here or left to starve when thir mothers are shot for meat, Dogs and other animals are used in the most frightful ways in veterinary schools to teach students and in research laboratories to achieve little. Living creatures are boiled alive (and on TV too) ie crabs and lobsters (Lobsters etc have central nervous systems and can feel pain, I blieve they scream as they die), Thousands of cats are bred and euthanased or dumped - same goes for dogs and other animals, Hunting animals with dogs is now LEGALLY sanctioned in NSW by the new hunting bill which has probably been passed by now hunting causes prolonged stress and uncomprehendable fear in the hunted animals, We Australians knowingly send live animals to muslim countries on a cruel sea journey for horrible ritual slaughter (the almighty dollar and profit motive). And I won't even mention what goes on in saleyards, slaughter houses and on farms and in intensive farming where animals such as battery hens are condemned to the most frightful conditions over a long period of time. Stay focused on the cruelty issues and avoid racial slurs made because of excessive cruelty to animals. Let those from countries who are devoid of animal cruelty speak out and you will hear a deafening silence. The USA slaughterhouses cut up some animals alive and conscious. Are we to compare extremes of cruelty to see who is the worst country or race and then use racial slurs to stir up hatred between nations instead of keeping the doors of communication open and working towards the benefit of all the animals? Americans are just as guilty of EXTREME cruelty to animals as the Koreans, Australians etc etc etc . Kind regards, Marguerite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 - bunny aapn Sunday, August 25, 2002 8:37 PM re racial slurs and animal If such slurs are made because of some Koreans cruelty to companion animals, then the people making the slurs are not only racist but are stupid speciests also. I don't believe the word " stupid " would be accurate when describing the emotions of those that have dedicated their lives to help stop the slaughtering and torture of Korean Dogs and Cats. When I first came to some of my Animal Rights Groups I was very outspoken,not giving a second thought to what I was writing and my views on some matters were offensive to others. With time I learned that to help the animals I must keep my anger under control or atleast keep it off the groups. When the load is too great,I think it sometimes helps to lash out weather by means of sharing our anger by posting it to the group or pounding the heck out of our vehicles,walls,etc. Were only human after all. You see,I believe " An Eye For An Eye " where Animals are concerned. Let the same be done to man. I am not prejudice nor am I racist. My husband is Native,my Granddaughter is African Canadian and my ancestors are Irish. Intelligence is not determined by race,never has been. Neither is the ability to torture helpless animals. I cannot bring myself to eat at an Asian Establishment. Perhaps the owners never ate Dogs or boiled a cat alive but the other side of the coin is that they may have. I refuse to buy goods that are labled'MADE IN KOREA " . These poor creatures are strangled,electrocuited,beat to death,cats are boiled alive,beat to death on roads/sidewalks,and for what? Unfounded beliefs that are as old and barbaric as the torture itself. If one of my five children tortured an animal I would do everything in my power to see them brought to justice That is neither prejudice or racist. The USA slaughterhouses cut up some animals alive and conscious. Are you certain of this? Please provide names/locations. I am on seven US Animal Rights Groups.Hopefully we could use the info to help animals here as well. snogec I am from Canada and we are no less guilty where abuse is concerned than the USA or any other Country. Animal Abuse has reached new heighth in the past few years. If Korea favors and expects the " open arms " theory from other countries maybe its time for Korean Officials take a stand and inforce existing laws that prohibit the cruelty to and consumption of dogs and cats. Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 After having battled against the dog and cat meat industry in Korea from inside Korea up to and during the period of the World Cup (I'm now temporarily back in Canada) I feel I need to wade in a bit on this. Playing the racial game is a game the Koreans themselves (or, better put, the system of political thinking that has arised in Korea as a result mostly of the last 100 years of occupation, war and political autocracy, and conditioned by the prior history of isolationist confucianism) invent and we have to be really careful we don't play along for the benefit of the dog dealers. I was amazed to find that our cause was being linked with Japanese imperialism in the minds of some Koreans thanks to the media and its emphasis on the " attack on Korean culture " thing. However, I think that we necessarily did unleash a certain anti-Korean feeling, as a by product of getting the anti-dog meat message out in a mass way. What we need to keep in mind, though, and to actively promote with respect to this issue, is that Korea really is behind the west with respect to human rights, womens equality, animal rights, democracy and most things basically decent. It's not because they're inherently bad but because they have sacrificed development of their relation to the world around them for simple survival. The Koreans themselves know that. Relating to companion animals is the first step towards respecting all animal life and the Koreans have just in the last 10 years discovered the dog as a companion animal (cats not yet). It has nothing to do with distinct culture or racial identity but simple lack of development, development of thinking, new ideas and new possibilities for relations to the world around them. Though the notion of " progess " is a tenuous proposal, in this sphere I've found that it applies. Richard Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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