SAINT BERNARD DOG KILLING IN CHINA : interveg@... : etc

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The inference was the insult to SAINT BERNARD, one of the saints in the

Catholic calendar, and hence, to the Roman Catholics. Hopefully all billion

Catholics, vegetarians and others will not attend the Olympics there in case

they get to eat some of the many soya products made in China and the Far

East containing carcinogenic agents, and take-aways with wooden chopsticks -

another Chinese contribution to global deforestation.

 

Isn't it weird - they are sexually dysfunctional and have to kill rhino, tigers and antelope to help them

produce one child per family, and kill trees because they are apparently unable

to use a spoon, or dislike cleaning dishes.

 

No doubt Chinese Catholics eat dog, cat and human placenta - the latter

being popular in England and Europe too.

 

The insult also applies to a billion (or whatever the number is) Hindus;

but they have sects who eat the remains of cremated body parts left

next to the Ganges. Then there are Buddhists, and ...

 

Please visit www.catholic-animals.com which is a site promoting

vegetarianism among other good things.

 

By all means - knock the people, but it is not the religion's fault they

don't do what they say they believe in.

 

The fact that many Catholics and Christians generally have chosen to interpret the

Bible to suit themselves is their problem - there are some who try to live according

to what it says: (in Aramaic etc):

 

Acts 15: Do not eat the meat of strangled animals.Acts 18: 18 The private vow Paul took, many Biblical scholars believe,is the Nazarite vow which included besides hair cutting.. abstention fromanimal flesh. This Nazarite diet is described in Numbers. This is the vowthat Samson with his great strength took.Corinthians l: 8,12-13 (Paul) If meat makes my brother stumble I shallnever again eat meat.Daniel l: Daniel was put in prison by Nebuchadnezzar. He ate onlypulses (beans) for 10 days while others ate flesh. Nebuchadnezzar noticedthat he fared better than the others. Maynard Clark (vrc) andFrank Hoffman (Veg-Christian) make the pointthat since all food, not just meat, was sacrificed by Babyloniansto idols, idols were not a factor in their abstention from animal flesh.Deuteronomy 5: Thou Shalt Not Kill (later versions than the King Jamestranslate this as Thou Shalt Not Murder)Exodus 20: 13 Thou Shalt Not Kill brought down the mountain literally LoTirtzach.. (this is nonkilling, not nonmurder)The Biblical command "Thou Shalt Not KIll" which J J Price cites asa reason to change diet.. is not asterisked "to include humans only".TheBiblical command "Thou Shalt Not Steal" which Kathy Kurtz cites can berelated to not purloining the eggs from chickens nor the milk from mothercows whose calves are then butchered for veal.Exodus 16: 31 The desert manna was like coriander seed. (Givenby Reginal Cherry, MD who promotes vegan diet on Trinity Broadcast NetExodus: The Israelites did not want the manna that God had provided..instead they wanted the flesh of quails.Ezekiel 3 and 4: My body has never been defiled by animal flesh.Genesis 1:29: Behold I have given you herb yielding seed. To you it shallbe for meat.Genesis 1: 12 describes the perfection of a world covered with fruitand nut trees, grape vines and berry bushesGenesis 2: 4-6 There were no violent storms in the tree covered earth.The trees were watered by mist.Genesis 6: Noah was commanded by God to provide vegetarian food in theark for people and animals. (The lions drank the milk of cows.)Genesis 9: 4-5 Flesh shall yet not eat. And surely your blood I willrequire at the hands of beasts.Hosea 2:28: I will make for you that day a covenant with the wildanimals. I will abolish the bow, the sword, and war from the land. Iwill make you lie down in safety.Isaiah: Isaiah is the prophet who more than any other forecasts the birthof Jesus. He is also the prophet with the most references to nonviolenceand universal respect for life. Jesus quotes Isaiah's "I delight notin your blood sacrifices" as He drives the animal killers out of thetemple. Jesus refers to the vegetarian Isaiah more than to any other.Isaiah: 1: 11: I delight not in the blood of bullocks or of lambsor of he goats (whereas Isaiah 66 involves not eating pigs.. and Isaiah 65involves not eating any living thing)(In some Bible translations the word 'blood' has been removed.)(In others it is "I delight not in thy blood sacrifices.")Isaiah 42: He shall break not the bruised reed.Isaiah 59: We moan sadly like doves.Isaiah 65: The wolf shall lie down with the lamb.. they shall not hurt nordestroy in all my holy mountain for the earth shall be full of theknowledge of the Lord. Many other passages of Isaiah speak of noneatingof animals.Isaiah 66: 3 He who slays an ox is as he that slays a man.(Another translation: He who kills a bull is as he who kills a man.)Isaiah 66: 17: The slain of the Lord shall be many.. they behind thetree eating swine's flesh.. shall be consumed together.(There are dozens of references to vineyards, fruit trees, and fruitariandiet in Isaiah alone.)Samson's Nazarite vow included eating nothing dead, letting his hairgrow and other injunctions. He violated this vow not only with Delilahbut in eating honey from a hive within the ribs of a desert lion carcass. Hethen lost his strength.Jesus: Whatsoever you have done to these the least of My brethren youhave done unto Me. (Is the least of His brethren.. the birds, the insects,and the plants?)The Aramaic Bible (the language Jesus spoke): Zachariah is toldeven before the birth of John the Baptist that John is the Spirit of Elijahand that he will forsake flesh foods. (Thank you Josh)For information write chochmah36Jesus: Come, I shall make you fishers of humankind (and not offishes).Jesus: Ye are whited sepulchres. This is interpreted to meanthose with concern for externals.. while their thoughts arenot holy, those who actions show hypocrisy as well. Howeversarcophagus comes from sarx (flesh) and phagus (eater)..sarcophagus is not only a coffin but a flesheater.Job 5: You will be in league with the stones of the field and thebeasts of the field shall be at peace with you. Job 12: 8 Speak to theearth and she will teach thee (of patience, humility, forgiveness, universalnurturing) Joel 1: The land mourns the destruction of her plants.John the Baptist: The Ebionites taught that John the Baptist wasvegetarian. For further information write Pastor Mike Shaw mshawJohn: 3rd Letter of John to Gaius: I pray good health for you.John: 6: 63 It is the Spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing.Judges 13: (re Samson) (The breaking of the Nazarite vow {taken byJesus, John the Baptist, Paul} was the cause of Samson's downfall)(Besides abstention from haircutting, the vow of the Nazarites involvedabstention from meat. Paul felt his vow was private. Others werepublic.)(Some think that involvement with killing is the toucbing of deathand therefore the touching of a dead thing.)Leviticus 3: 17 commands to eat no animal fat or animal bloodMany Jewish vegetarians believe it is impossible to drain the bloodout of all the tiny capillaries of the animal, and that thereforethere is no such thing as kosher flesh. (Write schwartz)

Leviticus 11: prohibts the eating of the flesh of rabbits, pigs, shellfishsuch as lobsters, clams, shrimp, crabs, hawks, seagulls, camels,chameleons, flying insects with 4 legs in certain cases, heron, bat,hoopoe, vulture, stork, cormorant, ibis, marsh hen, pelican, owl, mole,rat, mouse, lizard, gecko, snail, cud chewers, cloven hoofed (the cowwas observed trying to cleave her hoof to make her safe), eagle, metire,osprey, falcon, ostrich, kite, raven, rock badger, etc. The reasons includeprevention of food poisoning. E.g., pigs and shellfish will eat the wasteof other creatures (coprophagy).Leviticus 17:10 I will set my face against them that eat blood.Leviticus commands that no dead animal be touched. How is it possibleto rend the flesh of an animal with human teeth in the consumption of meatand not touch the animal?Leviticus: Just as Jesus erases Levitical law and prevents the capitalpunishment of the adulterous woman (the man was not brought)He also erases Levitical animal sacrifice law with the Law of LoveLuke 15: is about the 100th lamb. Dr. Bates gave a sermon on this passageon Sept 13th. Are not all lambs His? Does He not want all His lambsprotected?Luke 15: 16 The Prodigal son.. the word for what the son ate whenaway from his family was keration.. a word for the carob bean orthe fruit of the locust tree.. this was fed to the poor and to pigs... this "St John's Bread" was fruit and not meat. Historically thepoor have been more vegetarian than the rich. It was said that King Henry8th's gout came to a rich man for the poor could not eat enough meat to havegout.Malachi l: You have defiled my altars.Malachi 4: They shall grow fat like calves in stalls. (While thisis intended as a blessing, it is a reminder of veal calves imprisonedtheir entire lives in stalls, unable to turn around.)Mark: The Gospel of Mark makes it clear that when Jesus spokeof what defiles a person, he was speaking of critical words.Matthew 4:19 Come I will make you fishers of men (no longer fishersof fishes).Matthew: 5:7 Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy.Matthew 12: 7 Jesus quotes Isaiah more than anyone else.Jesus quotesIsaiah's "I desire mercy not sacrifice" and "break not the bruised reed".Matthew 12: 11 Which of you having a sheep (ox) in a ditch will not rescueit on the Sabbath?Matthew 16: 15 The Moody Bible Institute has the translation ina mail out plaque: Go ye therefore and preach to all creation.(Other translations say 'the world'). Anthony, revered as a saintin the Catholic Church, preached to the fishes when humans would not listen.Matthew 19: 6 What God hath joined together let no man put asunder.This is Jesus' comment about marriage.. but God has also soldered togetheranimals.. and does not want them sundered.Matthew 21: Jesus overturns the tables where doves are being soldfor sacrifice.. and says 'my house is a house of prayer.. you have made it aden of plunderers'. The Greek word used is lestes.. which is more correctlytranslated plunderer or butcher than thief. (The author of Jesus ofNazareth King of the Jews mentions that before Passover as many as 40,000animals were hanging upside down bleeding to death.. and that the templefloor was awash in blood.)Matthew 23: 27 Jesus says some are like whited sepulchres (sacrcophagi.(Sepulchre from the interlinear GreekTestament sarcophagus) (sarc fleshphagy eat: flesheaters)Therefore Jesus said 'They are whited flesh eaters' Why whited?Concern with exterior paint and not the interior cleanliness ofthe temple. What happens to the body when one eats animals? Itsays George Bernard Shaw, friend of General Booth of the Salvation Army,becomes a grave of those animals.Jesus states in this passage that the sepulchres are full of dead bones.Matthew 23: 25 It is interesting that most translations of the Biblespeak of these sarcophagi as being full of dead men's bones whereasthe actual Greek is 'gemousin osteon nekron' which means' full of dead bones'.Matthew 25:40 "Whatsoever ye have done to these the least of Mybrethren, ye have done unto Me." Are not animals more handicappedthan human beings?Methusaleh: This longest lived (969 years) of Biblical heroes waslike all pre flooders (antedeluvians) vegetarian. (Jeremiah: The Lordoffends the mind to revealthe heart) (*Some say that Elijah was the longest lived because heascended to heaven without death and, says Jesus, is John The Baptist).Paul(1 Corin 8: 7-13) Meat commends us not to God.. if meateating offend mybrother.. I will eat no flesh while the earth stands.(Whole passage sent by QEagle Debra)Paul in Corinthians 6: Your body is a temple of Holy Spirit.Proverbs 12:10: The righteous man is concerned for his beast.Proverbs 23:20 Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorgethemselves on meat.Proverbs 31: 8 Open thy mouth for the dumb (voiceless)Psalm 10: In the secret places he murders the innocent.Psalm 11: The wicked bend their bow. They make ready their arrowupon the string.(Biblical vegetarians include Adam 930 years {we are not given Eve's age}Seth 912 years Enoch 905 years Canaan 910 years Jacob 962 years Enoch 2 andMethusaleh 969 years)Psalm 50: Eat not the flesh of bulls nor the blood of goats.Psalms: 104: 16-18: The trees of the Lord are watered abundantly.Psalm 148: Praise the Lord from the deep, you sea monsters (for all God'screation, not just human beings, do praise).Revelation 5: All creatures sing the praises of God.. is the gistof a Revelation 5 passage. If animals can sing God's praises, do theyhave souls and a right to life?Revelation: 7: 3 Hurt not the earth neither the sea nor the trees.Revelation 9:4 The 5th angel.. says that no living growing tree beingor grass be harmed.Revelation 11: 2 Olive trees are before the throne of God.(The rest of the passage is on their not being harmed.)Rev: 11: 18 (Angels) shall harm those who destroy the earth.Rev: 12: The earth swallows a river the dragon has sentagainst the woman.Revelation 16: The 2nd bowl poured by the angel turns the seas toblood. (The red tide is the name given to pfiesteria which killsfish with the pollution pouring out from Eastern seaboard factory farms.)Revelation 22: as quoted by Dr. Reginald Cherry, MD of TBN:The leaves of the trees are for the healing of nations (both as herbs and asenvironmental protectors)Revelation 22: The tree of life grows by the river of life.(In the context it is seen that it is a fruit tree.)Revelation's sign of the beast might be the sign of the slain beast,the sign advertising places where slain beasts are sold.Revelation's prophecy of a blood red moon might be related to the red tideswhich are causing environmental destruction.Romans 8: If your meat eating offends your brother abstain from it.