[100% veg*n ] Confessions of a teenage meat eater

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Some parts of London might be OK for vegans supporting one another

but Harrow is pretty hopeless. Although I know a few vegans here,

they are useless at actually meeting and forming a proper friendly

group. My husband and I are pretty useless at getting out to much

because we have three young children, but at least I make the effort

to invite other veggie and vegan families to meet up, and yet most of

my invitations to meet up for simple picnics locally get ignored,

even though I don't limit to vegans, but ask lots of vegetarians too.

I'm at a loss what to do, I've asked other vegan and veggie families

to join with us in forming a babysitting circle and had no takers

for that either. I just don't know what these people want! It bugs me

that they seem to put meat-eaters above supporting my efforts to make

friends with them. Either that or they are purposely sad and lonely

and don't want new like-minded friends.

 

Isn't the wonderful Vegan Views magazine based in your town?

If it is, then I'm surprised that you haven't got to know the people

involved in that (it was/is Harry Mather I believe).

 

Unwillingly Sad and Lonely Lesley

 

 

vegan-network, Gareth Pashley <gpashley@b...> wrote:

> like i said it was the " lets try thinking out of the box a bit

here " which

> sounded patronising to me

>

> The email wasn't aimed specifically at you but also at what some

others seem

> to be saying re shunning partners/disassociating yourself from the

non-vegan

> community

> .....we all have to start somewhere as i think the majority of us

aren't+ as vegans so we all have our skeletons in the closet....if

you will

> forgive the pun

>

> there seems to be some misunderstandings here and i apologise if i

have

> upset you....but don't take everything so personally, read around

the wider

> thread and relate peoples comments to that

>

> I would've thought that the situation in London was better than

most, what

> with the cosmopolitan mix of people.....I don't know any vegans

personally

> but Bournemouth is a bit retrograde!!

> .....but then I don't look to meet vegans specifically, in fact I

don't try

> to meet anyone specifically....I meet who I meet and make many

friends

>

> take it easy....

> g

>

>

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>

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> >

> > irene_lucy [sMTP:irene.lucy@n...]

> > Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:47 PM

> > vegan-network

> > [100% veg*n ] Re: Confessions of a teenage meat eater

> >

> >

> > Whoa, just a minute, I have not completely disassociated from

family,

> > just because I would like some vegans close to my family as

> > substitute extended family! I was simply expressing what would be

MY

> > ideal situation! Lots of vegans in each area being like family to

one

> > another, what could be wrong with that? I never said you HAD to

shun

> > your non-vegan family, or veggie partner.

> > In fact I am personally very happy to link up with vegetarians as

> > well as vegans!

> >

> > I don't see why I am considered by you to be patronising, I would

> > think you would be happy that SOME of us appreciate our fellow

vegans

> > enough to want seriously to be part of a really caring community

with

> > them, helping out with caring for one another's children and

helping

> > elderly vegans too.

> >

> > I would rather help and be helped by vegans than just anyone in

my

> > life, and yet vegans are so fragmented and disunified where I

live,

> > that I can't even find a vegan babysitter locally (or a veggie

> > babysitter for that matter at the moment)! Maybe that's just the

way

> > it is in the London area.

> >

> > You don't have to want to be involved in building help and

support

> > between vegans if it's not your priority (but I suspect you

probably

> > are involved in such things), just don't slag off those of us who

do

> > want to put their fellow vegans as a high priority and care about

> > them. It's not about hating anyone, it's about having the type of

> > people in your life that you are comfortable with and I am more

> > comfortable with those who respect life more than with those who

do

> > not!

> >

> > I truly have very little in common with my biological family, I

know

> > them, you don't, so don't judge me for saying the truth of my

life as

> > I see it! I have a cousin who is a dairy farmer and my aunt just

> > married a man who takes his pals to hare coursing events, so how

far

> > removed from me is that? Oh and I have had gay friends and my dad

is

> > a homophobe, so there is another very different attitude I have

from

> > my family!

> >

> > I hope I expressed that clearly, I was not attacking you so stop

> > attacking me.

> >

> > Lesley

> >

> >