Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 yeah yeah yeah i feel bad knowing that all my specialty vegan items have to be exploiting SOMEONE, and ive spent a long time thinking abuot it. i walk around in the city center and i see the homeless people and i see the people with the clipboards.. nobody else sees them. a lifetime of ignoring them has made them completely invisible. i do what i can, and i know that if i was willing to budget a little bit better i could be doing a whole lot more. but its the greed thing. dammit its MY money, ive worked hard for it, why should i give it away? ive offered sandwhiches, groceries, drinks, crisps, and other things to homeless people and some of them will graciously accept it, while others will jsut ask dont you have any money? it kind of makes me mad. id love to solve the worlds problems, id love to see us gravitate toward a society in which we all grow our own foods and money doesnt exist, but beleive me that will NOT happen in this lifetime, so why shouldnt i have my toffuti and fizzy cola bottles in the meantime?? spiggy -- Priscilla Pelkey spiggy - email (210) 576-2701 x5770 - voicemail/fax ---- Ben <ben wrote: [Non text/plain message body suppressed] FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 7. Help! Social adjustments to veganism... > " annis_seed " <shivapuri > 8. Re: Help! Social adjustments to veganism... > " Honor Chan Hoi Yee " <honor_chan >i feel bad knowing that all my specialty vegan items have to be exploiting >SOMEONE, and ive spent a long time thinking abuot it. i walk around in >the city center and i see the homeless people and i see the people with >the clipboards.. nobody else sees them. a lifetime of ignoring them has >made them completely invisible. i do what i can, and i know that if i >was willing to budget a little bit better i could be doing a whole lot >more. but its the greed thing. dammit its MY money, ive worked hard for >it, why should i give it away? ive offered sandwhiches, groceries, drinks, >crisps, and other things to homeless people and some of them will >graciously >accept it, while others will jsut ask dont you have any money? it kind >of makes me mad. id love to solve the worlds problems, id love to see >us gravitate toward a society in which we all grow our own foods and >money doesnt exist, but beleive me that will NOT happen in this lifetime, >so why shouldnt i have my toffuti and fizzy cola bottles in the meantime?? > >spiggy Must admit, i have to agree with that. Why should we feel bad about not giving something to EVERY homeless person we meet or not putting money in EVERY charity can shaken at us? It just can't be done. I also do not want to feed some of the homeless peoples addictions, thank you very much! I couldn't afford some of those habits myself, so why should we help them kill themselves, anyway? But we are doing so much, just by being vegan. I think this is a hell of a lot more than say, someone who thinks they are doing a great deal, by throwing money at a charity that aids famine in 3rd world countries. If that person consumes the average western diet then they probably don't realise that they are doing more harm than good to the very people they think they are helping. I wish more people could be educated on the damage their diet alone is doing to humans, animals and the environment. [instead of all the money that goes into advertising animal products] Though, I have noticed recently that they are starting to show commercials that encourage the public to be greener and suggest small changes to their usual livestyles. Let's hope we will see a lot more of this type of advertising and it will eventually lead to the connection with the western diet. So, as far as I'm concerned if we are taking the right steps towards ending mass starvation, animal exploitation and improving our environment, then we shouldn't feel at all guilty about not giving away every single spare penny we have. No one is perfect and pure, but we are doing our bit and that helps a lot. Enjoy your Toffuti and fizzy cola bottles! Dee _______________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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