Guest guest Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 Yep, Tofuti Cream cheese is excellent. For hard cheese, redwoods are okay. Then there is parmazino for sprinkley. Regardless of how well the animals are raised and treated, male calves will still be a casualty of the dairy industry. All dairy cows are freaks of nature, they produce huge quantities of bad milk. IBS, Chrones (from cows with Johnes), TB, and the list goes on. Without dairy, what would doctors do? Just out of interest, why did you go the organic route when there are lots of alternatives? To give you an idea of what dairy products do... My G/F was given butter in her veggies on Friday night at her work do. This morning, she is a sight. Swollen face, lips, eyes and phlegm a plenty. Luckily, she didn't react any more severely or breathing difficulties would be much worse. People have died from such reactions in their sleep. It's criminal what people can get away with. If people reading this list (who aren't vegan) think this is an allergic reaction, they'd be right. But they'd be wrong to think it is only she who is allergic, everyone is. Only she hasn't eaten it for 2 years, her body has had time to clean out and no longer needs to deal with the toll of diary products daily. If you need proof, abstain from dairy products for a week or two, then eat a 'lovely' cheese pizza followed by lashings of dairy ice cream. That should do it. How many people of this list have considered dairy to be a factor in SIDS? How many people know dairy products have physically addictive opiates naturally in them? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release 13/11/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 I'd agreee with many things u say. the only reason preventing me from switching to vegan cheese is limited access. K , Rowan McCartney <be99rnm@b...> wrote: > Yep, Tofuti Cream cheese is excellent. For hard cheese, redwoods are > okay. Then there is parmazino for sprinkley. > Regardless of how well the animals are raised and treated, male calves will > still be a casualty of the dairy industry. All dairy cows are freaks of > nature, they produce huge quantities of bad milk. IBS, Chrones (from cows > with Johnes), TB, and the list goes on. > Without dairy, what would doctors do? > Just out of interest, why did you go the organic route when there are lots > of alternatives? > To give you an idea of what dairy products do... > My G/F was given butter in her veggies on Friday night at her work > do. This morning, she is a sight. Swollen face, lips, eyes and phlegm a > plenty. Luckily, she didn't react any more severely or breathing > difficulties would be much worse. People have died from such reactions in > their sleep. > It's criminal what people can get away with. > If people reading this list (who aren't vegan) think this is an allergic > reaction, they'd be right. But they'd be wrong to think it is only she who > is allergic, everyone is. Only she hasn't eaten it for 2 years, her body > has had time to clean out and no longer needs to deal with the toll of > diary products daily. If you need proof, abstain from dairy products for a > week or two, then eat a 'lovely' cheese pizza followed by lashings of dairy > ice cream. That should do it. > How many people of this list have considered dairy to be a factor in SIDS? > How many people know dairy products have physically addictive opiates > naturally in them? > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release 13/11/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 She should sue. I accidentally ate a bit of cheese not so long ago (not my fault, it was given to me in error when it was supposed to be vegan cheese) and I didn't get this reaction, so I think it all depends on your own personal sensitivity, I don't think it would happen to anyone who had been off dairy for a time (and would be more likely in certain racial groups than others), after all I've been vegan for 18 years, but the phlegm and breathing trouble sounds so very much like my reaction to second hand tobacco smoke, or almost any smoke actually, so I can empathise. Can I ask was anyone smoking at her works do? If so, that could be a contributory factor towards the phlegm. You're right it's criminal that people get away with poisoning others, whether with tobacco smoke or dairy. Both are surely contributory factors in SIDS, so are vaccinations. Glad to say I protected my kids from all three. Lesley Rowan McCartney [be99rnm]15 December 2002 11:10 Subject: cheese and dairyYep, Tofuti Cream cheese is excellent. For hard cheese, redwoods are okay. Then there is parmazino for sprinkley.Regardless of how well the animals are raised and treated, male calves will still be a casualty of the dairy industry. All dairy cows are freaks of nature, they produce huge quantities of bad milk. IBS, Chrones (from cows with Johnes), TB, and the list goes on.Without dairy, what would doctors do?Just out of interest, why did you go the organic route when there are lots of alternatives?To give you an idea of what dairy products do...My G/F was given butter in her veggies on Friday night at her work do. This morning, she is a sight. Swollen face, lips, eyes and phlegm a plenty. Luckily, she didn't react any more severely or breathing difficulties would be much worse. People have died from such reactions in their sleep.It's criminal what people can get away with.If people reading this list (who aren't vegan) think this is an allergic reaction, they'd be right. But they'd be wrong to think it is only she who is allergic, everyone is. Only she hasn't eaten it for 2 years, her body has had time to clean out and no longer needs to deal with the toll of diary products daily. If you need proof, abstain from dairy products for a week or two, then eat a 'lovely' cheese pizza followed by lashings of dairy ice cream. That should do it.How many people of this list have considered dairy to be a factor in SIDS?How many people know dairy products have physically addictive opiates naturally in them?~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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