Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 > ..I'll probably cheat a little and have some . . . LOL Unfair unfair! No fair trying to make the new veggies drool for what they can no longer eat!!! ;=) But hey, your mention of gravy reminds me to ask if you have a favourite veggie gravy suitable for - say - non-spicy veggie meals - the kind of thing you might put over a tofu or nut loaf or have with your mashed potatoes and all your Thanksgiving food (minus the t*rkey, of course). Anyone who loves gravy must have one such recipe - or two or three ;=) > However, if I'm in San Fran by then, I'll probably just do a big veggie > thing with my best friend and some of his friends... Sounds perfect! > I " m really not in to Tofurkey...but I also don't see tofu and other so > called " meat substitutes " as such....I see them as another type of food. . . Well, they are! Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Pat wrote: > LOL Unfair unfair! No fair trying to make the new veggies drool for what > they > can no longer eat!!! ;=) But hey, your mention of gravy reminds me to ask > if > you have a favourite veggie gravy suitable for - say - non-spicy veggie > meals - > the kind of thing you might put over a tofu or nut loaf or have with your > mashed potatoes and all your Thanksgiving food (minus the t*rkey, of > course). > > Anyone who loves gravy must have one such recipe - or two or three ;=) Well, there's always a mushroom gravy, but I think the one I'm thinking of uses beef broth...*ponders* I'll fool around with it and try using veggie broth and see what I come up with... Acctually, my favorite thing in the whole world is gravy over rice...If I can come up with a good tasting veggie gravy, I'll be a very happy woman! Oh, and to clarify, I'm probably about 99% veggie...although, every once in a great while I'll " cheat " ... > > However, if I'm in San Fran by then, I'll probably just do a big veggie > > thing with my best friend and some of his friends... > > Sounds perfect! It's so much easier to be veggie on the west coast though...a lot more options and places to get foods...here it's twice as expensive to find organic stuff than it is out there...and it's not all *that* cheap out there either.... > > I & quot;m really not in to Tofurkey...but I also don't see tofu and > other so > > called & quot;meat substitutes & quot; as such....I see them as another > type of food. . . > > Well, they are! LOL...well, I try to explain that to my carnivorous friends...they always complain about how tofu " doesn't taste like meat " and I tell them: " Duh. Of course it doesn't because it isn't! " I don't expect it to, so I do all right with tofu. But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers? Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 This is where I am still learning about vegetarianism, trying to understand the various mindsets [as well as mine]. Question: If you drool at the smell of cooked me*t [see, I'm learning] then are you honestly a vegetarian, or just a culinary masochist? Kevin > > > ..I'll probably cheat a little and have some . . . > > LOL Unfair unfair! No fair trying to make the new veggies drool for what they > can no longer eat!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Oh, clearly Gardenburgers. I think the Dalai Lama would agree on this point. But then, isn't it a bit vegan-insensitive to call them burgers? Kevin > > But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers? > > Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Morning Star Pizza Burgers, and soy cheese!!!! Cyndi >^. .^< On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:06:11 -0000 " feline_rancher " <feline_rancher writes: Oh, clearly Gardenburgers. I think the Dalai Lama would agree on this point. But then, isn't it a bit vegan-insensitive to call them burgers? Kevin > > But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers? > > Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 LOL-- Definately Gardenburgers... Boca tastes TOO much like meat for me. -selena > But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers? > > Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Yes I agree with Selena, and gardenburgers has just a virtual cornacopia of flavors,and since you said that boca tastes too much like meat, do you know what it is about meat that poeple like and that gives it it's flavor?........ It is the blood. Early on in my vegeterian studies, this would be over 20 years ago, I was privy to an experiement at a major university in which they centrifuged the blood out of a piece of meat. It was a tasteless mass of grissle that nobody wanted to eat. I wonder how Boca gets their meatless patties to taste so close to meat? Although I do not eat faux meat products, my children do, and when they have friends over for a meal, their first time, friends that know we are vegeterian, they love to fool them with the soy chicken and morningstar sausage patties, which my parents tell me are pretty damn close to the real thing!!! Oh the wonders of modern science!! Now if they could only make a brussel sprout that tasted like chocolate cake, I suspect we would convert the whole world to vegeterianism!!! Selena <austinrengirl wrote:LOL-- Definately Gardenburgers... Boca tastes TOO much like meat for me. -selena > But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers? > > Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 >Now if they could only make a brussel sprout that tasted like chocolate cake, >I suspect we would > convert the whole world to vegeterianism!!! LOL Fantastic idea!!!! Any scientists in the crowd???? Best, Pat ;=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Hmm...how about you write the company & suggest they change the name from burgers to_____? Patties? Do it, Kevin, do it!! Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 OMG, ROFL!!! (If you drool at the smell of cooked me*t [see, I'm learning] then are you honestly a vegetarian, or just a culinary masochist?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I love GardenBurgers " Portabella rice " and many other of their things, although their hot wings are horrid. I prefere Boca breakfast sausage, but I agree the burger and loose burger taste too real, ew. Another really good one is Morningstar, their hotdogs are liked more then the real ones by everyone who trys them at my house, and their fiesta burger is really good.:} Also, if anyone misses the turkey pastrami in a sandwich(especially newly vegetarians) I find that the Smart Deli Bacon tastes nicely close. --- Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47 wrote: Yes I agree with Selena, and gardenburgers has just a virtual cornacopia of flavors,and since you said that boca tastes too much like meat, do you know what it is about meat that poeple like and that gives it it's flavor?........ It is the blood. Early on in my vegeterian studies, this would be over 20 years ago, I was privy to an experiement at a major university in which they centrifuged the blood out of a piece of meat. It was a tasteless mass of grissle that nobody wanted to eat. I wonder how Boca gets their meatless patties to taste so close to meat? Although I do not eat faux meat products, my children do, and when they have friends over for a meal, their first time, friends that know we are vegeterian, they love to fool them with the soy chicken and morningstar sausage patties, which my parents tell me are pretty damn close to the real thing!!! Oh the wonders of modern science!! Now if they could only make a brussel sprout that tasted like chocolate cake, I suspect we would convert the whole world to vegeterianism!!! Selena <austinrengirl wrote:LOL-- Definately Gardenburgers... Boca tastes TOO much like meat for me. -selena > But here's the question: Boca Burgers or Gardenburgers? > > Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 At 05:33 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote: >Morning Star Pizza Burgers, and soy cheese!!!! > >Cyndi > >^. .^< Hmmm...I'll have to try them... Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a bit of a cheese snob... Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 At 05:06 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote: >Oh, clearly Gardenburgers. I think the Dalai Lama would agree on this >point. > >But then, isn't it a bit vegan-insensitive to call them burgers? > >Kevin Well, I don't think so...because it is a burger in the sense of stuff put together and made in to a patty...*shrug* Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 At 10:07 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote: >LOL-- Definately Gardenburgers... Boca tastes TOO much like meat for >me. >-selena See, I can't decide...I like the garlic Bocas, but you're right, they taste a lot like meat...but I really like the Gardenburgers because they have a high mushroom content (I LOVE mushrooms)... Oh, and FYI: Amtrak serves Gardenburgers on their trains (that's how I was introduced to them) and I was rather impressed that they had thought to have some sort of veggie snack...it definitely helped when I got sick of eating all the hummus I brought with me... Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 At 07:35 AM 9/14/2004, you wrote: >Oh the wonders of modern science!! Now if they could only make a brussel >sprout that tasted like chocolate cake, I suspect we would >convert the whole world to vegeterianism!!! *laugh* Heck, if they did *that* even *I* would eat brussel sprouts then! Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 At 01:37 PM 9/14/2004, you wrote: >OMG, ROFL!!! (If you drool at the smell of cooked me*t [see, I'm >learning] then are you honestly a vegetarian, or just a culinary masochist?) HEHE...if that makes you a culinary masochist, what would make one a culinary sadist?? *evilgrin* Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Gina, I've tried every brand I could get my hands on [low cholesterol objective here] and not a single one tasted even decent, IMHO. My view is that " soy cheese " is an oxymoron. Kevin ********* > > Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a bit of > a cheese snob... > > Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 That would be someone who puts ribeye steaks on the grill when their culinary masochist friends come over for dinner, then serve them garden burgers.... Kevin ***** > > HEHE...if that makes you a culinary masochist, what would make one a > culinary sadist?? > > *evilgrin* > Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Gina, I use Veggie Slices ( Galaxy Nutritional Foods ), but I'm not a cheese fan, so it tastes fine to me. I prefer soy cheese ON something, like a pattie, and not to eat plain!!!! lol Cyndi >^. .^< On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 00:46:38 -0400 Gina <webdyke writes: At 05:33 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote: >Morning Star Pizza Burgers, and soy cheese!!!! > >Cyndi > >^. .^< Hmmm...I'll have to try them... Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a bit of a cheese snob... Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Cyndi, Yes definitely, you need to have something that will mask that silicon-sealing-cement aroma [and texture] of most soy cheeses... Maybe it's just me.. Kevin ****** I prefer soy cheese ON something, like a > pattie, and not to eat plain!!!! lol > > Cyndi > >^. .^< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 LOL - exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cyndi >^. .^< On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:15:25 -0000 " feline_rancher " <feline_rancher writes: Cyndi, Yes definitely, you need to have something that will mask that silicon-sealing-cement aroma [and texture] of most soy cheeses... Maybe it's just me.. Kevin ****** I prefer soy cheese ON something, like a > pattie, and not to eat plain!!!! lol > > Cyndi > >^. .^< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 I vote for the Toffuti line of packaged sliced (un)cheese and their cream (un)cheese. >Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a bit of >a cheese snob... > >Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Yum ~ that sounds good, I'll have to look. We love Toffuti!! My hubby is not a total vegetarian, but I asked him to give Toffuti a try, as he ate ice cream every nite. PS - He hasn't gone back to ice cream, and it's been several months!!! YES Cyndi >^. .^< On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:49:47 -0400 " Maida Genser " <maidawg writes: I vote for the Toffuti line of packaged sliced (un)cheese and their cream (un)cheese. >Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a bit of >a cheese snob... > >Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Heh heh heh - dratted meat eaters - can't trust em. Not only do they eat you- know-what but they eat up a gal's Toffuti! Lay in a double supply! And good work - months, you say! so much healthier too ;=) Best, Pat ;=) > Yum ~ that sounds good, I'll have to look. We love Toffuti!! My hubby is > not a total vegetarian, but I asked him to give Toffuti a try, as he ate > ice cream every nite. > PS - He hasn't gone back to ice cream, and it's been several months!!! > YES > Cyndi > >^. .^< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 I usually use Del Sunshine, which sadly has trace amounts of Casein in it, but is very affordable and does melt nicely. I will try thr Tofutti and see if it isn't the one I can get everyone to use.Thanks --- " Maida Genser " <maidawg wrote: I vote for the Toffuti line of packaged sliced (un)cheese and their cream (un)cheese. >Which brand of soy cheese is good? I'm kind of wary since I can be a bit of >a cheese snob... > >Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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