Medical mushrooms

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

A friend has approached me about growing organic medical mushrooms for use as

herbs in Chinese medicine practice. This is an extensive list of practitioners

here, and I am wondering whether anyone would be interested in this kind of

service? The companion question is does anyone regularly prescribe mushrooms in

their formulas to their patients? Also, I suppose another question is if you

already prescribe mushrooms regularly, which species do you regularly prescribe,

and who is your supplier?

 

Sincerely,

 

 

The Database

[Guest guest]

I use ling zhi, but I use the cracked spores (ling zhi bao zi fen). I would

be interested in getting this from a US source, however their seems to be

some technology involved in making this.

 

 

 

-Jason

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of

Chinese Medicine

Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:50 PM

 

Medical mushrooms

 

 

 

 

 

Hi All,

 

A friend has approached me about growing organic medical mushrooms for use

as herbs in Chinese medicine practice. This is an extensive list of

practitioners here, and I am wondering whether anyone would be interested in

this kind of service? The companion question is does anyone regularly

prescribe mushrooms in their formulas to their patients? Also, I suppose

another question is if you already prescribe mushrooms regularly, which

species do you regularly prescribe, and who is your supplier?

 

Sincerely,

 

 

The Database

 

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[Guest guest]

Jason, you're a Ling Zhi spore user?

 

What's your take on them? Do you use the " oil " too? I used to work at a

place that sold the oil. VERY expensive. Never sure it had any value. Your

take?

 

-al.

 

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, <

> wrote:

 

>

>

> I use ling zhi, but I use the cracked spores (ling zhi bao zi fen). I would

> be interested in getting this from a US source, however their seems to be

> some technology involved in making this.

>

> -Jason

>

 

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

http://twitter.com/algancao

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

For the Ling zhi spores, you need a cosmetically fine powdering machine,

which I hear costs a lot of dinero.

I'd be interested in Turkey Tail mushroom (Yun zhi), which is not as easy to

get as many others,

but just as important.

 

K

 

 

 

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Al Stone <al wrote:

 

>

>

> Jason, you're a Ling Zhi spore user?

>

> What's your take on them? Do you use the " oil " too? I used to work at a

> place that sold the oil. VERY expensive. Never sure it had any value. Your

> take?

>

> -al.

>

>

> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, <

> <%40Chinese Medicine>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I use ling zhi, but I use the cracked spores (ling zhi bao zi fen). I

> would

> > be interested in getting this from a US source, however their seems to be

> > some technology involved in making this.

> >

> > -Jason

> >

>

> --

> , DAOM

> Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

> http://twitter.com/algancao

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

All right, I am keeping track. I have heard that Lion's mane is being touted as

good for multiple sclerosis, has anyone had experience with this? My

understanding is that building a grow operation for mushrooms is not hugely

complex, but having never done it myself, it will be interesting.

I am surprised to hear no clamor for Dong Chong Xia Cao? I actually have it

from reputable sources that this mushroom grows right here in Oregon quite

naturally.

 

Has anyone used solely mushrooms for the treatment of cancer? One of my peers

told me the story of a woman in japan who took nothing but Ling Zhi that her

husband gathered for her, and it put her in complete remission after 6 months of

treatment. It is hear say as I don't have any documents, but has anyone had

experiences like this with their patients?

 

Lastly, Jason what do you use the spores in treatment for? And why only the

spores (out of curiosity)?

 

Appreciate the discussion as always.

 

 

The Database

[Guest guest]

Al,

 

 

 

Good question, the jury is still out. Quick expensive. I personally have

found a quite significant (energetic & taste) difference (in myself) between

the reputable brands and the cheap herb market ones. I do not use the oil,

do you>?

 

 

 

-Jason

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Al Stone

Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:39 PM

 

Re: Medical mushrooms

 

 

 

 

 

Jason, you're a Ling Zhi spore user?

 

What's your take on them? Do you use the " oil " too? I used to work at a

place that sold the oil. VERY expensive. Never sure it had any value. Your

take?

 

-al.

 

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, <

<%40Chinese Medicine> >

wrote:

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

The place where I worked touted Reishi spore oil for cancer. This wasn't in

print or anything, just one of the keyword diagnosis that they liked. " *Cancer?

Oh, you need Reishi oil.* "

 

But after doing some research, I found a website run by what looked like a

professional organization made up of Japanese reishi growers. This article

was complaining about how unethical it was to promote reishi oil for cancer,

because it was unproven. That website is gone, but the google cache remains.

*http://tinyurl.com/2dhxpz5

*

However there is some interest in the spores and oil in cancer treatment if

you look through the research sites. Not sure I would promote the herb as

such, though.*

 

*-al.*

*

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:44 AM, <

> wrote:

 

>

>

> Al,

>

> Good question, the jury is still out. Quick expensive. I personally have

> found a quite significant (energetic & taste) difference (in myself)

> between

> the reputable brands and the cheap herb market ones. I do not use the oil,

> do you>?

>

> -Jason

>

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

http://twitter.com/algancao

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Something I've been seeing around is this 'ganotea' or something like that. I'm

always suspicious of anything multi-level / panacea sounding, but does anyone

have some first-hand info on that product?

 

, " " wrote:

>

> Al,

>

>

>

> Good question, the jury is still out. Quick expensive. I personally have

> found a quite significant (energetic & taste) difference (in myself) between

> the reputable brands and the cheap herb market ones. I do not use the oil,

> do you>?

>

[Guest guest]

The Cordyceps genus grows around the world, there are a number of species in

North America, not sure if anyone really knows how many. The question is can

any of the other species be used the same as we use Cordyceps sinensis?

Perhaps there is a better species. This would be extraordinary research, but

it would take a life's work, I imagine.

 

Who can speak to their experience with the difference between the whole

" herb " and the mycelium? I have used both, but I have not used the mycelium

enough to say.

 

Thomas

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Supposedly, the whole " herb " ... worm part is high in proteins,

but is not the significantly powerful medicinal that the fungus is.

However, in Tibet, they believe that they go together.... a large golden

worm and intact fungus on the head.

 

The problem is people soaking the worm into solutions that make it weight

more to get more $,

adding things like metal rods or toothpicks inside of the worm etc.

I guess if you can't see the fungus on the worm body, it would be even

easier to forge a counterfeit,

but people still find a way to make fakes.

 

There might be something to the fact that the Cordyceps sinensis grows at

such a high altitude

in mineral-rich soil. I've seen other species' on youtube in the jungles of

South America.

Do the indigenous healers use Cordyceps there?

 

K

 

 

 

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, wrote:

 

>

>

> The Cordyceps genus grows around the world, there are a number of species

> in

> North America, not sure if anyone really knows how many. The question is

> can

> any of the other species be used the same as we use Cordyceps sinensis?

> Perhaps there is a better species. This would be extraordinary research,

> but

> it would take a life's work, I imagine.

>

> Who can speak to their experience with the difference between the whole

> " herb " and the mycelium? I have used both, but I have not used the mycelium

> enough to say.

>

> Thomas

>

>

>