Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 > How long do you prescribe triphala for your patients? > Can you take it on a chronic basis? > love love love triphala. thanks michael for the thoughts on its chinese translation, very interesting. the only other notes i would add come from dr vasant lad and are that it should be taken preferably an hour before or after food(although i see it in patent formulas, particularly banyan's) and definitely separate from milk products. he also cautioned its use in pregnancy due to its moving capabilities although it seems quite safe. interestingly, he also recommends taking it in the morning if a more immediate bowel cleansing effect is desired and in the evening if a " deeper " cleansing and rejuvination of the bodily tissues(dhatus) is desired. one can also take 1/4 tsp. with 1 tsp. of honey as a great rejuvinative tonic(rasayana) for the body as a whole. triphala works so well with the bowels he says because of its balanced effect of clearing excess and tonifying deficiency. it can clear the bowels as well as strengthen the peristalic ability, and therefore can be taken indefinitely. i usually recommend people take it daily for 5 days and then take a day or two off to watch the body's progress over time. micahel: something that has been on my mind a lot lately is the differences in the way ayurvedic herbs seem to be prescribed in such simple formula preparations, and often even as singles, whereas a typical TCM formula having 10-15 herbs is quite common. my ayurvedic herbal studies are limited mostly to Dr Vasant Lad and his students, and i havent been to india, so maybe my perspective is skewed. but i wonder if you have any thoughts on why this might be? two thoughts i have had is that in ayurveda, diet and lifestyle is almost always the frontline for treatment and therefore leaves herbal prescribing as a secondary measure, whereas with TCM although adressing diet/lifestyle is important, a practitioner has more room to " fix " the patient with needles and herbs it seems which could lead to more complex formulas. ive also wondered if its that ayurvedic texts such as the charaka samhita with its simple formulas seem to be still very relevant to the student of ayurveda whereas texts such as the shang han lun, although studied in school, in my experience, where given a back seat to the more modern texts such as bensky, chen and chen, etc. hope this is a clear question. have you found any ayurvedic texts in english with good formulas descriptions such as we might find for TCM? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Does anyone know about He zi dosing? Small doses do the opposite of large doses, but I'm not sure which one does what.... I guess we can always experiment on ourselves. Isn't the He zi from Tibet blue-green in color? Is the Chinese version chao He zi..? which makes it more astringent? K On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:52 PM, josh_nct1 <chaitime wrote: > > > > How long do you prescribe triphala for your patients? > > Can you take it on a chronic basis? > > > > love love love triphala. thanks michael for the thoughts on its chinese > translation, very interesting. the only other notes i would add come from dr > vasant lad and are that it should be taken preferably an hour before or > after food(although i see it in patent formulas, particularly banyan's) and > definitely separate from milk products. he also cautioned its use in > pregnancy due to its moving capabilities although it seems quite safe. > interestingly, he also recommends taking it in the morning if a more > immediate bowel cleansing effect is desired and in the evening if a " deeper " > cleansing and rejuvination of the bodily tissues(dhatus) is desired. one can > also take 1/4 tsp. with 1 tsp. of honey as a great rejuvinative > tonic(rasayana) for the body as a whole. triphala works so well with the > bowels he says because of its balanced effect of clearing excess and > tonifying deficiency. it can clear the bowels as well as strengthen the > peristalic ability, and therefore can be taken indefinitely. i usually > recommend people take it daily for 5 days and then take a day or two off to > watch the body's progress over time. > > micahel: something that has been on my mind a lot lately is the differences > in the way ayurvedic herbs seem to be prescribed in such simple formula > preparations, and often even as singles, whereas a typical TCM formula > having 10-15 herbs is quite common. my ayurvedic herbal studies are limited > mostly to Dr Vasant Lad and his students, and i havent been to india, so > maybe my perspective is skewed. but i wonder if you have any thoughts on why > this might be? two thoughts i have had is that in ayurveda, diet and > lifestyle is almost always the frontline for treatment and therefore leaves > herbal prescribing as a secondary measure, whereas with TCM although > adressing diet/lifestyle is important, a practitioner has more room to " fix " > the patient with needles and herbs it seems which could lead to more complex > formulas. ive also wondered if its that ayurvedic texts such as the charaka > samhita with its simple formulas seem to be still very relevant to the > student of ayurveda whereas texts such as the shang han lun, although > studied in school, in my experience, where given a back seat to the more > modern texts such as bensky, chen and chen, etc. hope this is a clear > question. have you found any ayurvedic texts in english with good formulas > descriptions such as we might find for TCM? thanks. > > > -- "" www.tcmreview.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I'd sure appreciate clarification on that. On Behalf Of Monday, January 04, 2010 8:05 PM Re: triphala Does anyone know about He zi dosing? Small doses do the opposite of large doses, but I'm not sure which one does what.... I guess we can always experiment on ourselves. Isn't the He zi from Tibet blue-green in color? Is the Chinese version chao He zi..? which makes it more astringent? K On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:52 PM, josh_nct1 <chaitime <chaitime%40mail.com> > wrote: > > > > How long do you prescribe triphala for your patients? > > Can you take it on a chronic basis? > > > > love love love triphala. thanks michael for the thoughts on its chinese > translation, very interesting. the only other notes i would add come from dr > vasant lad and are that it should be taken preferably an hour before or > after food(although i see it in patent formulas, particularly banyan's) and > definitely separate from milk products. he also cautioned its use in > pregnancy due to its moving capabilities although it seems quite safe. > interestingly, he also recommends taking it in the morning if a more > immediate bowel cleansing effect is desired and in the evening if a " deeper " > cleansing and rejuvination of the bodily tissues(dhatus) is desired. one can > also take 1/4 tsp. with 1 tsp. of honey as a great rejuvinative > tonic(rasayana) for the body as a whole. triphala works so well with the > bowels he says because of its balanced effect of clearing excess and > tonifying deficiency. it can clear the bowels as well as strengthen the > peristalic ability, and therefore can be taken indefinitely. i usually > recommend people take it daily for 5 days and then take a day or two off to > watch the body's progress over time. > > micahel: something that has been on my mind a lot lately is the differences > in the way ayurvedic herbs seem to be prescribed in such simple formula > preparations, and often even as singles, whereas a typical TCM formula > having 10-15 herbs is quite common. my ayurvedic herbal studies are limited > mostly to Dr Vasant Lad and his students, and i havent been to india, so > maybe my perspective is skewed. but i wonder if you have any thoughts on why > this might be? two thoughts i have had is that in ayurveda, diet and > lifestyle is almost always the frontline for treatment and therefore leaves > herbal prescribing as a secondary measure, whereas with TCM although > adressing diet/lifestyle is important, a practitioner has more room to " fix " > the patient with needles and herbs it seems which could lead to more complex > formulas. ive also wondered if its that ayurvedic texts such as the charaka > samhita with its simple formulas seem to be still very relevant to the > student of ayurveda whereas texts such as the shang han lun, although > studied in school, in my experience, where given a back seat to the more > modern texts such as bensky, chen and chen, etc. hope this is a clear > question. have you found any ayurvedic texts in english with good formulas > descriptions such as we might find for TCM? thanks. > > > -- "" www.tcmreview.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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