Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 R, This presentation that you present is just one idea. As Al and I were/ are mentioning is that there are multiple ways of explaining a choppy pulse. The question is not which is the correct way to describe the choppy pulse, but more importantly, what each type of choppy pulse means clinically. -Jason > > rw2 [rw2] > Thursday, September 30, 2004 2:34 PM > > RE: Re: Gu Syndrome > > > To detect a choppy pulse, one must essentially store an image of the way > each pulse beat feels and then compare it with the next pulse beat. > (Mathematically this is called auto-correlation.) It means that each pulse > beat will have a slightly different pulse pressure profile in time. The > trickiest aspect of this is to detect choppiness in a pulse that is > otherwise smooth in profile - a slippery-choppy pulse is one example. > > We use video simulation software to demonstrate this to our students, and > it helps greatly. A picture is worth a thousand words. See the sequence of > 5 slides starting at: > > http://www.rmhiherbal.org/tchs-cd/pu-01.html > > The sequence of slides shown above illustrates several different complex > pulse types. > (Keep in mind that these are snapshots of moving images.) > > In a slippery-choppy pulse, the pulse pressure profile will not have the > classical quality of " knife scraping bamboo " , but the shape does change, > and this can include variations in strength, which is one manifestation of > choppiness. > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org > > > > Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:01:57 -0600 > > " " > >RE: Re: Gu Syndrome > > > >I agree and I think there is much confusion around the choppy pulse. I > >think it was Al stone that a few months ago posted a long discussion on > >this. Basically he was describing the 3 types of choppiness and how > various > >authors interpreted it (feeling). I definitely see all three types of > >choppiness in the clinic and am still unclear what each of the choppiness > >means ( I don't think Al's post went into this). Does anyone > differentiate > >the three, attributing a different meaning to i.e. a choppy (roughness) > vs. > >choppy (strength) etc.? > > > >- > > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including > board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a > free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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