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Dear Dr. Bob,

Two questions.

(1) In how many days do you expect results?

(2) Has anyone heard of using Mang Xiao as a topical agent to 'stem' (is that the correct translation from the Chinese?)

lactation?

 

Thanks,

Daniel Wasserman

 

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Julie Chambers

Monday, June 03, 2002 8:34 PM

Re: Re: Mai Ya/Gu Ya

Dear Bob, thank you very much for your experience.Julie-pemachophel2001 <pemachophel2001Monday, June 03, 2002 12:27 PM Re: Mai Ya/Gu Ya> Julie,>> I have lots of experience using Mai Ya to stem lactation, both in> China and the U.S. To achieve this effect, the med must be used in> large doses (30-60g) and lightly stir-fried till aromatic. I have> found this med to be very dependable for this effect, and there is> quite a lot of published research on this med's effect on PRL. I have> used Mai Ya for women who had lost their babies during birthing, for> women with galactorrhea due to hyperprolactinemia, and for women with> galactorrhea-amenorrhea syndrome, and it has always worked. Another> med that is sometimes used in China for this purpose is Fructus> Crataegi (Shan Zha), but I don't have any experience using it for this> purpose.>> I have never heard , read, or seen Gu Ya used for stemming lactation.>> Bob>> , Julie Chambers <info@j...> wrote:> > Dear group,> >> > What is the prevailing opinion on the use of Mai Ya and Gu Ya in> lactation? does either one inhibit lactation?> >> > Julie>>>> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcarepractitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializingin Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,including board approved online continuing education.>> http://www..org>>

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, Julie Chambers <info@j...>

wrote:

> Dear group,

>

> What is the prevailing opinion on the use of Mai Ya and Gu Ya

in lactation? does either one inhibit lactation?

>

> Julie

 

mai ya purportedly has this effect, but not gu ya, as far as I know

(I might be wrong). the dose is high (30g/day). it's use for this

purpose as a single suggests it developed from folk medicine. I

have no idea whether it actually works. Even if one takes it for

this purpose, how do you know the lactation did not just stop of

its own accord? it certainly can't hurt. just sprouts. :)

 

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Julie,

 

I have lots of experience using Mai Ya to stem lactation, both in

China and the U.S. To achieve this effect, the med must be used in

large doses (30-60g) and lightly stir-fried till aromatic. I have

found this med to be very dependable for this effect, and there is

quite a lot of published research on this med's effect on PRL. I have

used Mai Ya for women who had lost their babies during birthing, for

women with galactorrhea due to hyperprolactinemia, and for women with

galactorrhea-amenorrhea syndrome, and it has always worked. Another

med that is sometimes used in China for this purpose is Fructus

Crataegi (Shan Zha), but I don't have any experience using it for this

purpose.

 

I have never heard , read, or seen Gu Ya used for stemming lactation.

 

Bob

 

, Julie Chambers <info@j...> wrote:

> Dear group,

>

> What is the prevailing opinion on the use of Mai Ya and Gu Ya in

lactation? does either one inhibit lactation?

>

> Julie

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Dear Bob, thank you very much for your experience.

 

Julie

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pemachophel2001 <pemachophel2001

 

Monday, June 03, 2002 12:27 PM

Re: Mai Ya/Gu Ya

 

 

> Julie,

>

> I have lots of experience using Mai Ya to stem lactation, both in

> China and the U.S. To achieve this effect, the med must be used in

> large doses (30-60g) and lightly stir-fried till aromatic. I have

> found this med to be very dependable for this effect, and there is

> quite a lot of published research on this med's effect on PRL. I have

> used Mai Ya for women who had lost their babies during birthing, for

> women with galactorrhea due to hyperprolactinemia, and for women with

> galactorrhea-amenorrhea syndrome, and it has always worked. Another

> med that is sometimes used in China for this purpose is Fructus

> Crataegi (Shan Zha), but I don't have any experience using it for this

> purpose.

>

> I have never heard , read, or seen Gu Ya used for stemming lactation.

>

> Bob

>

> , Julie Chambers <info@j...> wrote:

> > Dear group,

> >

> > What is the prevailing opinion on the use of Mai Ya and Gu Ya in

> lactation? does either one inhibit lactation?

> >

> > Julie

>

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing

in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

including board approved online continuing education.

>

>

>

>

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Gu Neiqiang uses Mai Ya at large doses in the treatment hyperprolactinemia. He is presenting on the subject at the AAOM conference in DC this fall.

Will

 

mai ya purportedly has this effect, but not gu ya, as far as I know (I might be wrong). the dose is high (30g/day). it's use for this purpose as a single suggests it developed from folk medicine. I have no idea whether it actually works. Even if one takes it for this purpose, how do you know the lactation did not just stop of its own accord? it certainly can't hurt. just sprouts. :)

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I have had experience with stopping lactation --- using 60g/day. It did

work sympomatically. Turned out the reason the lady couldn't stop lactating

was that she had a pituitary gland tumor. She went through chemo --- but as

long as she used the Mai Ya, she didn't leak.

 

 

Mark

 

 

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Monday, June 03, 2002 11:56 AM

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> , Julie Chambers <info@j...>

> wrote:

> > Dear group,

> >

> > What is the prevailing opinion on the use of Mai Ya and Gu Ya

> in lactation? does either one inhibit lactation?

> >

> > Julie

>

> mai ya purportedly has this effect, but not gu ya, as far as I know

> (I might be wrong). the dose is high (30g/day). it's use for this

> purpose as a single suggests it developed from folk medicine. I

> have no idea whether it actually works. Even if one takes it for

> this purpose, how do you know the lactation did not just stop of

> its own accord? it certainly can't hurt. just sprouts. :)

>

 

>

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing

in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

including board approved online continuing education.

>

>

>

>

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WMorris116 wrote: Gu Neiqiang uses Mai Ya at large doses in the treatment hyperprolactinemia. He is presenting on the subject at the AAOM conference in DC this fall. Will

mai ya purportedly has this effect, but not gu ya, as far as I know (I might be wrong). the dose is high (30g/day). it's use for this purpose as a single suggests it developed from folk medicine. I have no idea whether it actually works. Even if one takes it for this purpose, how do you know the lactation did not just stop of its own accord? it certainly can't hurt. just sprouts. :) Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

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I've seen results within 24 hours, but certaininly within 72 in terms

of stopping lactation postpartum.

 

Bob

 

, " Wasserman " <danjan18@m...> wrote:

> Dear Dr. Bob,

> Two questions.

> (1) In how many days do you expect results?

> (2) Has anyone heard of using Mang Xiao as a topical agent to 'stem'

(is that the correct translation from the Chinese?)

> lactation?

>

> Thanks,

> Daniel Wasserman

> -

> Julie Chambers

>

> Monday, June 03, 2002 8:34 PM

> Re: Re: Mai Ya/Gu Ya

>

>

> Dear Bob, thank you very much for your experience.

>

> Julie

> -

> pemachophel2001 <pemachophel2001>

>

> Monday, June 03, 2002 12:27 PM

> Re: Mai Ya/Gu Ya

>

>

> > Julie,

> >

> > I have lots of experience using Mai Ya to stem lactation, both

in

> > China and the U.S. To achieve this effect, the med must be used

in

> > large doses (30-60g) and lightly stir-fried till aromatic. I

have

> > found this med to be very dependable for this effect, and there

is

> > quite a lot of published research on this med's effect on PRL. I

have

> > used Mai Ya for women who had lost their babies during birthing,

for

> > women with galactorrhea due to hyperprolactinemia, and for women

with

> > galactorrhea-amenorrhea syndrome, and it has always worked.

Another

> > med that is sometimes used in China for this purpose is Fructus

> > Crataegi (Shan Zha), but I don't have any experience using it

for this

> > purpose.

> >

> > I have never heard , read, or seen Gu Ya used for stemming

lactation.

> >

> > Bob

> >

> > , Julie Chambers <info@j...>

wrote:

> > > Dear group,

> > >

> > > What is the prevailing opinion on the use of Mai Ya and Gu Ya

in

> > lactation? does either one inhibit lactation?

> > >

> > > Julie

> >

> >

> >

> > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

healthcare

> practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics

specializing

> in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional

services,

> including board approved online continuing education.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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