Guest guest Posted March 5, 2001 Report Share Posted March 5, 2001 Hi, I know it is not a topic for this list, but I am desperately looking for a good supplier of herb grinders, as they are very difficult to find over here in Europe. I would really appreciate if one of you could help me out. Regards, John - Sunday, March 04, 2001 8:57 PM Digest Number 510 Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. ------ There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. " Garry Seifert " <seifert 2. MAO & TCM Bashing " Joseph Balensi " <jlb 3. (unknown) yulong 4. Re: Birds Nest " Nhung Ta " <nhung.ta 5. Re: MAO & TCM Bashing " Nhung Ta " <nhung.ta 6. Brion. " hp " <hnp 7. Teaching " Robert L. Felt " <bob 8. Re: peculiar pulse findings WMorris116 9. Re: More about Reading and Teaching 10. Re: Brion. 11. Re: Re:Eight Extra Vessel pulses now ceiling dripping <alonmarcus 12. Re: Re: More about Reading and Teaching <alonmarcus 13. Re: Re:Eight Extra Vessel pulses now ceiling dripping WMorris116 14. Re: MAO & TCM Bashing <alonmarcus 15. Re: Re: peculiar pulse findings <alonmarcus 16. Re: Teaching <alonmarcus 17. Re: Teaching <alonmarcus 18. Re: Re: More about Reading and Teaching <alonmarcus 19. Re: Re: peculiar pulse findings WMorris116 20. Re: Re: Brion. <alonmarcus 21. Re: Re: peculiar pulse findings <alonmarcus 22. Re:Eight Extra Vessel pulses now ceiling dripping WMorris116 23. Re: Re <alonmarcus 24. Re: Re:Eight Extra Vessel pulses now ceiling dripping <alonmarcus 25. Re: Re: peculiar pulse findings Heiko Lade <heiko ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:07:15 +1100 " Garry Seifert " <seifert Subject: Re: More about Reading and Teaching PRC TCM courses seem to have been designed by TCM medical experts with little input from non-TCM personnel. Although it could be argued that their collective perspective is biased. Has anyone read The Transmission of by Elisabeth Hsu? Some of the older Chinese language texts do contain anti-capitalist propaganda statements, but these tend to disappear after the discussion on yin and yang. Authors probably felt obligated to make such statements, but there is no evidence of censorship. Reproductions of ancient books are fairly easy to find, again with no evidence of censorship. The main forces that affect the shape of medicine in any society are social and public policies, not party politics. There is no doubt in my mind that Chinese government policies have affected the shape of modern TCM but mainly in indirect ways, the same ways that Western government policies have shaped bio-medicine in the West. The things that I like about modern TCM can probably be attributed to the fact that it has developed in a non-capitalist environment. Garry Seifert. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Sun, 4 Mar 2001 04:43:57 -0700 " Joseph Balensi " <jlb MAO & TCM Bashing I suspect that the MAO - TCM bashing comes from unconsciously held American political dogma. The reality is quite different. Some eminent scholar in a feature article inthe Atlantic Monthly (within the last 18 months) proposed that there are pre-condidtions which must exist in a society for democracy to even germinate. Without them, he contends, a society will quickly fall under the rule of the strongest. Among these preconditions are adequate food and shelter for all, basic actual literacy among the vast majority (75% or more), and a citizenry educated in the principles and values of a democracy/free society. None of these existed in China in 1949. In pre-revolutionary America it was, by comparison, relatively easy to obtain shelter and food. And literacy in commoners (as opposed to the scholarly elite) was highly valued. It's pretty well documented that Mao was deeply Chinese first and Communist third. Personally, I think Mao's political decisions had very little to do with " Communism " and everything to do with pragmatism. It's hard to debate philosophy when you're cold and hungry. JOE [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:47:19 -0000 yulong (unknown) Very well put, Garry. >The things that I like about modern TCM can > probably be attributed to the fact that it has developed in a non- capitalist > environment. > > Garry Seifert. And the things I like about it can be attributed to the fact that it has developed in an environment in which the richness of its ancient heritage can be and has been accessed and incorporated in the design and construction of the institutions that purvey Chinese medical education in China. To be sure there are enormous problems facing Chinese medical educators in China. These problems fall into many categories. In the forthcoming issue of CAOM, which should be in rs mailboxes by the end of this month, there is an article by Prof. Jiang Yong Guang outlining his thoughts on the mode of thinking in traditional Chinese clinical medicine. This article represents a long-term problem solving strategy currently under development at the Chengdu University of TCM where Prof. Jiang is on the faculty. It clearly reveals the willingness and capacity of modern Chinese educators to face and tackle such problems, and it demonstrates the fundamental importance of a comprehensive understanding of the basic theories as an indispensable element in any such strategic plan to foster and improve conditions in Chinese medical studies and clinical practice. This is the critical difference between Chinese medical education in China and the States: access to the literature and reliance upon long-established principles as the foundation of contemporary practice. Ken ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:36:02 -0500 " Nhung Ta " <nhung.ta Re: Birds Nest Dear Joe, Bird's net is some kind of sea bird's net, the Asian use them thousand of year to notify the qi. They are tremendous strong tonic. It can reduce cholesterol. It will help support the herb and acupuncture treatment to be more effected. However. It is too expensive. Nhung Ta - " Joseph Balensi " <jlb Saturday, March 03, 2001 8:43 PM Birds Nest > Hi Folks, > > I received a question about an herb called " birds nest " or " yen wor " > (transliteration system unknown) and unfortunately I know nothing > about it. The writer says that it's a form of Swallow vomit and wants > to know if it can raise blood cholesterol levels. Can anybody shed light > on the question? > > I checked medline for studies of Swallow vomit but found only one article > which examined a possible correlation between yearly variations in > common collds and flus and aviary populations in San Juan Capistrano. > > JOE > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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