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Hi,

I know it is not a topic for this list, but I am desperately looking for a

good supplier of herb grinders, as they are very difficult to find over here

in Europe.

I would really appreciate if one of you could help me out.

Regards,

John

 

 

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Sunday, March 04, 2001 8:57 PM

Digest Number 510

 

 

Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing

in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

including board approved online continuing education.

 

 

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

 

Topics in this digest:

 

1.

" Garry Seifert " <seifert

2. MAO & TCM Bashing

" Joseph Balensi " <jlb

3. (unknown)

yulong

4. Re: Birds Nest

" Nhung Ta " <nhung.ta

5. Re: MAO & TCM Bashing

" Nhung Ta " <nhung.ta

6. Brion.

" hp " <hnp

7. Teaching

" Robert L. Felt " <bob

8. Re: peculiar pulse findings

WMorris116

9. Re: More about Reading and Teaching

10. Re: Brion.

11. Re: Re:Eight Extra Vessel pulses now ceiling dripping

<alonmarcus

12. Re: Re: More about Reading and Teaching

<alonmarcus

13. Re: Re:Eight Extra Vessel pulses now ceiling dripping

WMorris116

14. Re: MAO & TCM Bashing

<alonmarcus

15. Re: Re: peculiar pulse findings

<alonmarcus

16. Re: Teaching

<alonmarcus

17. Re: Teaching

<alonmarcus

18. Re: Re: More about Reading and Teaching

<alonmarcus

19. Re: Re: peculiar pulse findings

WMorris116

20. Re: Re: Brion.

<alonmarcus

21. Re: Re: peculiar pulse findings

<alonmarcus

22. Re:Eight Extra Vessel pulses now ceiling dripping

WMorris116

23. Re: Re

<alonmarcus

24. Re: Re:Eight Extra Vessel pulses now ceiling dripping

<alonmarcus

25. Re: Re: peculiar pulse findings

Heiko Lade <heiko

 

 

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Message: 1

Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:07:15 +1100

" Garry Seifert " <seifert

Subject:

 

Re: More about Reading and Teaching

 

PRC TCM courses seem to have been designed by TCM medical experts with

little input from non-TCM personnel. Although it could be argued that their

collective perspective is biased. Has anyone read The Transmission of

by Elisabeth Hsu?

 

Some of the older Chinese language texts do contain anti-capitalist

propaganda statements, but these tend to disappear after the discussion on

yin and yang. Authors probably felt obligated to make such statements, but

there is no evidence of censorship.

 

Reproductions of ancient books are fairly easy to find, again with no

evidence of censorship.

 

The main forces that affect the shape of medicine in any society are social

and public policies, not party politics. There is no doubt in my mind that

Chinese government policies have affected the shape of modern TCM but mainly

in indirect ways, the same ways that Western government policies have shaped

bio-medicine in the West. The things that I like about modern TCM can

probably be attributed to the fact that it has developed in a non-capitalist

environment.

 

Garry Seifert.

 

 

 

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Message: 2

Sun, 4 Mar 2001 04:43:57 -0700

" Joseph Balensi " <jlb

MAO & TCM Bashing

 

I suspect that the MAO - TCM bashing comes from unconsciously held American

political dogma. The reality is quite different. Some eminent scholar in a

feature article inthe Atlantic Monthly (within the last 18 months) proposed

that there are pre-condidtions which must exist in a society for democracy

to even germinate. Without them, he contends, a society will quickly fall

under the rule of the strongest. Among these preconditions are adequate

food and shelter for all, basic actual literacy among the vast majority (75%

or more), and a citizenry educated in the principles and values of a

democracy/free society. None of these existed in China in 1949. In

pre-revolutionary America it was, by comparison, relatively easy to obtain

shelter and food. And literacy in commoners (as opposed to the scholarly

elite) was highly valued.

 

It's pretty well documented that Mao was deeply Chinese first and Communist

third. Personally, I think Mao's political decisions had very little to do

with " Communism " and everything to do with pragmatism. It's hard to debate

philosophy when you're cold and hungry.

 

JOE

 

 

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Message: 3

Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:47:19 -0000

yulong

(unknown)

 

Very well put, Garry.

 

>The things that I like about modern TCM can

> probably be attributed to the fact that it has developed in a non-

capitalist

> environment.

>

> Garry Seifert.

 

And the things I like about it can be attributed

to the fact that it has developed in an environment

in which the richness of its ancient heritage

can be and has been accessed and incorporated

in the design and construction of the institutions

that purvey Chinese medical education in China.

 

To be sure there are enormous problems facing

Chinese medical educators in China. These

problems fall into many categories. In the

forthcoming issue of CAOM, which should be

in rs mailboxes by the end of this

month, there is an article by Prof. Jiang

Yong Guang outlining his thoughts on the

mode of thinking in traditional Chinese

clinical medicine. This article represents

a long-term problem solving strategy

currently under development at the Chengdu

University of TCM where Prof. Jiang is on

the faculty. It clearly reveals the

willingness and capacity of modern Chinese

educators to face and tackle such problems,

and it demonstrates the fundamental importance

of a comprehensive understanding of the

basic theories as an indispensable element

in any such strategic plan to foster and

improve conditions in Chinese medical studies

and clinical practice.

 

This is the critical difference between

Chinese medical education in China and

the States: access to the literature and

reliance upon long-established principles

as the foundation of contemporary practice.

 

Ken

 

 

 

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Message: 4

Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:36:02 -0500

" Nhung Ta " <nhung.ta

Re: Birds Nest

 

Dear Joe,

Bird's net is some kind of sea bird's net, the Asian use them thousand of

year to notify the qi. They are tremendous strong tonic. It can reduce

cholesterol. It will help support the herb and acupuncture treatment to be

more effected. However. It is too expensive.

Nhung Ta

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" Joseph Balensi " <jlb

 

Saturday, March 03, 2001 8:43 PM

Birds Nest

 

 

> Hi Folks,

>

> I received a question about an herb called " birds nest " or " yen wor "

> (transliteration system unknown) and unfortunately I know nothing

> about it. The writer says that it's a form of Swallow vomit and wants

> to know if it can raise blood cholesterol levels. Can anybody shed light

> on the question?

>

> I checked medline for studies of Swallow vomit but found only one article

> which examined a possible correlation between yearly variations in

> common collds and flus and aviary populations in San Juan Capistrano.

>

> JOE

>

>

>

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing

in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

including board approved online continuing education.

>

>

>

>

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