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From my own as well as my friends experience I agree with todds

opinion about ministerial fire and the question of how to express

this enormous stimulation.

I see dampness as the major result of smoking pot. Why ?

 

- Ministerial fire leads to an urge of activity. This activity can be

expressed by having many thoughts(consuming heart & spleen qi),

excessive laughing (spreading of heart qi, " exc.joy " ), or by getting

into

physical action(or other ways). Why is this physical expression not

so harmful? I think it is because this action gives some energy in

return, it creates Qi. The " free floating " mind finds resistance, a

counterpart, the yang gets into yin (the body, gravity, a

tree...).This interaction creates Qi on the one hand and it prevents

the Shen from getting dispersed on the other (the yin holds the yang).s friend had this physical activity as behavourial pattern.

Others express it more in intellectual fields (like initiating this

wonderful forum). Bad luck! I don't believe that constitution can

sufficiently explain the different experiences and results from

smoking pot.

 

- next day and hang-over: the loss of Qi (mainly ht & spleen) leads to

a kind of depression (QiXu) and to a stagnated feeling(QiXu resulting

in Qi-Stagnation, failing to move " itself " , the body fluids and the

transformation in the spleen, thus resulting in dampness!)

This process I believe to have experienced using weed.

 

- Eating: I would consider it of being an attempt of pushing down the

upflaring fire, a kind of helpless way to get rid of this energy-

surplus that doesn't find it's proper way).

 

- Dampness: as described above, the next days experience leads to

QiXu & dampness. This process going on chronically will aggravate it.

 

- Yin: I didn't mention it yet because I think it's not the YinXu to

be the main cause for red eyes and excess of thoughts. An effect(like

red eyes) which appears within a minute should neither be Yin nor Xu,

nor YinXu (apart from excessive lost of blood due to trauma). It is

the fire which does these symptoms. This fire will of course not only

disperse and consume the Qi but also consume Yin. So a Yin Xu might

follow on long-term base.

 

Just a few thoughts from Patrick

peaceful days in between the years to you all

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, " Patrick, Tim Rudolph " <

patim.rudolph@g...> wrote:

 

 

s friend had this physical activity as behavourial pattern.

> Others express it more in intellectual fields (like initiating this

> wonderful forum). Bad luck! I don't believe that constitution can

> sufficiently explain the different experiences and results from

> smoking pot.

 

But perhaps it is constitution combined with set and setting. Isn't

all life experience ultimately just an interaction between genes and

the environment?

 

 

> - Eating: I would consider it of being an attempt of pushing down the

> upflaring fire, a kind of helpless way to get rid of this energy-

> surplus that doesn't find it's proper way).

 

I agree, especially because eating brings you down from the high. I

think the colloquial term getting high, which is most commonly used to

refer to marijuana inebriation, reflect the rising yang nature of

ganja. It was also used to stimulate kundalini in aghora yoga

 

> - Yin: I didn't mention it yet because I think it's not the YinXu to

> be the main cause for red eyes and excess of thoughts. An effect(like

> red eyes) which appears within a minute should neither be Yin nor Xu,

> nor YinXu

 

good point.

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