Guest guest Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Hi, I work as a physical therapist assistant in addition to acupuncture, so I want to add a few comments about dry needling. Dry needling is a 14-day course over many weekends with the last weekend being the needling and certification. A therapist I work with got the certification; initially I was really upset about the encroachment of PT's into acupuncture territory without the proper training. I found that dry needling is presented only as that -- needles inserted into trigger points to reduce pain and spasms. It was not presented in any way as being acupuncture, at least by this therapist. I would imagine not all are scrupulous about this which does present a problem. As long as the line is clear, I don't see a problem. Diane Bryson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 The system has built in the friction.........purposefully. Keeps the lawyers, lobbyists and legislators in business......busy making lots of money. Law apparently is not meant to be CLEAR on many issues. Otherwise these such issues would not be in our faces. The animosity between professions and within professions is EXACTLY what the system wants. Divide and conquer is their scheme. Richard In a message dated 11/30/09 12:12:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, don83407 writes: You can't have it both ways, but that's what the other professions want. Dr. Don Snow, DAOM, MPH, L.Ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 What do you think acu-puncture is? You puncture the skin (a point; trigger point, acupoint) with a needle. Therefore, PT's puncturing a point with a needle is acupunture. When I do needless acupuncture with MET equipment, the PT's get all upset with me because they claim I am doing physical therapy. I bill needless acupuncture as physical medicine. I use the same equipment as the PT's but the results that I get with their equipment is much different than their results; my patients get better very quickly and the pain relief is immediate and profound. Why can't I bill this non-needle acupuncture? Then, why can they bill acupuncture by calling it dry-needling? You can't have it both ways, but that's what the other professions want. Dr. Don Snow, DAOM, MPH, L.Ac. Chinese Medicine dsbryson Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:43:25 -0500 dry needling Hi, I work as a physical therapist assistant in addition to acupuncture, so I want to add a few comments about dry needling. Dry needling is a 14-day course over many weekends with the last weekend being the needling and certification. A therapist I work with got the certification; initially I was really upset about the encroachment of PT's into acupuncture territory without the proper training. I found that dry needling is presented only as that -- needles inserted into trigger points to reduce pain and spasms. It was not presented in any way as being acupuncture, at least by this therapist. I would imagine not all are scrupulous about this which does present a problem. As long as the line is clear, I don't see a problem. Diane Bryson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 So how is it billed? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine dsbryson Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:43:25 -0500 dry needling Hi, I work as a physical therapist assistant in addition to acupuncture, so I want to add a few comments about dry needling. Dry needling is a 14-day course over many weekends with the last weekend being the needling and certification. A therapist I work with got the certification; initially I was really upset about the encroachment of PT's into acupuncture territory without the proper training. I found that dry needling is presented only as that -- needles inserted into trigger points to reduce pain and spasms. It was not presented in any way as being acupuncture, at least by this therapist. I would imagine not all are scrupulous about this which does present a problem. As long as the line is clear, I don't see a problem. Diane Bryson _______________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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