How to diagnose pulse when wrist has been injured

[Guest guest]

Dear Kiconnection,

TCM bases not only on pulses. THere are 3 other factors to depend on. Pulses are

to confirm those other 3 factors.

THe superior skills may base only on appearance " visual inspection " .

THe inferior takes on everything into account :  Listening, smelling, sensing "

touching... " palpating... and inquiring " base on history, current and

lifestyle, mental stress, conditioning... "

Western medicine does not base on pulse only, same as with us.

 

Nam Nguyen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nam and Bob, but I wasn't actually asking for other diagnosis methods

(obviously there are many!), I was just curious about the pulse.

 

Chinese Medicine , Nam Nguyen

<dr_namnguyen58 wrote:

>

> Dear Kiconnection,

> TCM bases not only on pulses. THere are 3 other factors to depend on. Pulses

are to confirm those other 3 factors.

> THe superior skills may base only on appearance " visual inspection " .

> THe inferior takes on everything into account :  Listening, smelling, sensing

" touching... " palpating... and inquiring " base on history, current and

lifestyle, mental stress, conditioning... "

> Western medicine does not base on pulse only, same as with us.

>

> Nam Nguyen

 

[Guest guest]

Wendy,

There is a system of reading channel pulses developed in the Ling Shu that

I've found very helpful. For example, points such as Liv 3/tai chong, Kid 3/tai

xi, tai yang, St. 9/ren ying, etc. can be very useful when the wrist pulses are

unavailable. One of the few English language sources that mentions these pulses

is " Acupuncture Medicine " by Dr. Omura......

 

 

 

---- kiconnections <wfrancis wrote:

> Hi everyone

> Here's one I've been puzzling over - I have a patient who is a very fit ex

champion cyclist, but in the past she badly smashed her left wrist, and in her

words had it " completely rearranged " by the surgeon. Exactly where I would take

the pulse reading she has thick scar tissue and I can feel nothing on it or

anywhere on her wrist.

> Does anyone have any suggestions?

> Wendy

>

[Guest guest]

Ah yes, Sorry for the simple answer...sometimes you don't know where to start

with some of the questions on the group.  Have you thought about delving into

the other pulse locations from days of yore...neck, foot ect (don't even

remember...were there 7??). I'm sure some old text will say if they are used in

a similar way.

 

Be well,

Bob

Robert Linde, AP, RH

Professional Herbalists Training Program

Acupuncture & Herbal Therapies

901 Central Ave

St. Petersburg, FL 33705

www.acuherbals.com

727-551-0857

 

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, kiconnections <wfrancis wrote:

 

 

kiconnections <wfrancis

Re: How to diagnose pulse when wrist has been injured

Chinese Medicine

Thursday, November 26, 2009, 9:50 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Nam and Bob, but I wasn't actually asking for other diagnosis methods

(obviously there are many!), I was just curious about the pulse.

 

Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , Nam Nguyen

<dr_namnguyen58@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Kiconnection,

> TCM bases not only on pulses. THere are 3 other factors to depend on. Pulses

are to confirm those other 3 factors.

> THe superior skills may base only on appearance " visual inspection " .

> THe inferior takes on everything into account :  Listening, smelling, sensing

" touching... " palpating... and inquiring " base on history, current and

lifestyle, mental stress, conditioning. .. "

> Western medicine does not base on pulse only, same as with us.

>

> Nam Nguyen

 

[Guest guest]

When the pulse is so compromised one cannot use it in accurately in DX. In this

case, if the pulse can be felt at all, one can use it to determine rate and

rhythm. Otherwise, one must rely on the side that can be felt as well as other

diagnostic parameters. One can take pulse on the ankle but, in my experience,

there is nowhere near the detail as on the wrist.

[Guest guest]

QiGong qi projection!

 

 

 

 

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" Bob Linde, AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist

<Chinese Medicine >

Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:12 PM

Re: How to diagnose pulse when wrist has been injured

 

 

Generally I would just get what I can from the other wrist. Since we have so

many diagnostic tools at our disposal, too over focus on one is fraught with

errors. Questioning and tongue I find the most reliable anyway (pulse is

effected by drugs, emotions stimulants). But we can use, ear, face, eye,

finger nail, hara or a ton that I likely don't know a thing about. Pulse is

just another tool in our tool chest.

 

Be well,

Bob

Robert Linde, AP, RH

Professional Herbalists Training Program

Acupuncture & Herbal Therapies

901 Central Ave

St. Petersburg, FL 33705

www.acuherbals.com

727-551-0857

 

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, kiconnections <wfrancis wrote:

 

 

kiconnections <wfrancis

How to diagnose pulse when wrist has been injured

Chinese Medicine

Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 2:14 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi everyone

Here's one I've been puzzling over - I have a patient who is a very fit ex

champion cyclist, but in the past she badly smashed her left wrist, and in

her words had it " completely rearranged " by the surgeon. Exactly where I

would take the pulse reading she has thick scar tissue and I can feel

nothing on it or anywhere on her wrist.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Wendy