Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi Michael Is it still TRUE that DCs in Oklahoma can treat cancer and administer IV therapy? Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I think you misunderstood. This according to the last time I looked was ALLOWED by the Board of Chiropractic Medicine. Therefore they ARE upholding their ethical obligation to TREAT the public with what works! Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 1:47:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Do not know. Why, are they? If they are, then maybe you should turn them in as we hold an ethical obligation to do so to protect the public. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Michael The relevance is that you proffer the idea that those DCs should be ethical and protecting the public and that they are failing that by treating cancer.....yet THEIR state board allows them to do that. So obviously they couldn't care less about 49 other states and every other DC out there who thinks they should not be treating cancer. Different strokes for different folks as the saying goes even if the square peg doesn't fit into the slave masters round waste basket hole. Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 3:10:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, I am unsure of what you are saying here and its relevance. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:56 -0500 Re: TCM - DCs treating cancer I think you misunderstood. This according to the last time I looked was ALLOWED by the Board of Chiropractic Medicine. Therefore they ARE upholding their ethical obligation to TREAT the public with what works! Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 1:47:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Do not know. Why, are they? If they are, then maybe you should turn them in as we hold an ethical obligation to do so to protect the public. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID247 27::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --- Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia To change your email delivery settings, click, and adjust accordingly. Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Michael What I asked was....... IF it was still active in OK. I was asking you since you are a DC. In OK I know they can still treat animals. Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 5:23:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, Who are you talking about? Is there a link, so that we can if this even exists? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 It appears that one must repeat themselves when responding to you. Who whispers in your ear - talking points? I ASKED you......to tell ME..... IF it was STILL legal in OK. It was back approximately in 2002 when Dr Taylorm DC (Oklahoma) taught IV therapy around the US to Chiros under auspices of Dr Winterstein, DC of National Chiropractic College of Illinois. So obviously you must know that it was SHUT DOWN. I noticed you avoided answering Dr Reinhardt's question about single versus multi-tiered chiropractic licensure. Not about schools and certainly not about Acupuncture or OM. Dr Paul told me in the past that ALL the professions are multi-tiered licensing. This is how earning capacity is limited. Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 5:41:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, You can find the OK board website at http://www.ok.gov/chiropracticboard/. Now I would like to read about the DC's that are treating cancer and using IVs. Can you share the link? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Do not know. Why, are they? If they are, then maybe you should turn them in as we hold an ethical obligation to do so to protect the public. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:27:07 -0500 DCs treating cancer Hi Michael Is it still TRUE that DCs in Oklahoma can treat cancer and administer IV therapy? Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Richard, I am unsure of what you are saying here and its relevance. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:56 -0500 Re: DCs treating cancer I think you misunderstood. This according to the last time I looked was ALLOWED by the Board of Chiropractic Medicine. Therefore they ARE upholding their ethical obligation to TREAT the public with what works! Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 1:47:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Do not know. Why, are they? If they are, then maybe you should turn them in as we hold an ethical obligation to do so to protect the public. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Richard, Who are you talking about? Is there a link, so that we can if this even exists? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine CC: habeas_1 acudoc11 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:00:38 -0500 Re: DCs treating cancer Michael The relevance is that you proffer the idea that those DCs should be ethical and protecting the public and that they are failing that by treating cancer.....yet THEIR state board allows them to do that. So obviously they couldn't care less about 49 other states and every other DC out there who thinks they should not be treating cancer. Different strokes for different folks as the saying goes even if the square peg doesn't fit into the slave masters round waste basket hole. Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 3:10:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, I am unsure of what you are saying here and its relevance. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:56 -0500 Re: TCM - DCs treating cancer I think you misunderstood. This according to the last time I looked was ALLOWED by the Board of Chiropractic Medicine. Therefore they ARE upholding their ethical obligation to TREAT the public with what works! Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 1:47:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Do not know. Why, are they? If they are, then maybe you should turn them in as we hold an ethical obligation to do so to protect the public. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID247 27::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --- Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia To change your email delivery settings, click, and adjust accordingly. Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Richard, You can find the OK board website at http://www.ok.gov/chiropracticboard/. Now I would like to read about the DC's that are treating cancer and using IVs. Can you share the link? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:33:58 -0500 Re: DCs treating cancer Michael What I asked was....... IF it was still active in OK. I was asking you since you are a DC. In OK I know they can still treat animals. Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 5:23:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, Who are you talking about? Is there a link, so that we can if this even exists? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Dr Reinhardt You forgot the most amazing and insane tiered license in Florida for an MD. Its called an UNLICENSED PHYSICIAN. Imagine what kind of crookery creates a LICENSE while calling it UNLICENSED!!!! Richard In a message dated 11/25/2009 11:48:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, habeas_1 writes: Fellows(not to be confused with a protected " title " conferred by the AMA Council on Graduate Medical Education lol): I must add to my list the multi tiered physician substitute RN licensees sponsored by hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry and big Pharma Drug Stores called " Nurse Practitioners " who have severely limited the earning capacity of what few M.D.'s that were left with their own cash registers as G.P's. Not to forget the alleged Physician Assistants who are also paid not by the M.D. but rather hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry etc. And what about expanded scope Osteopaths who suddenly drop spinal manipulation to practice Allopathic Ophthalmology, Orthopod Surgery, General Surgery, and Emergency medicine after hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry made a handshake deal with the AMA and AOA? Single tier licensees you say Mike? I doubt it. Take care of yourself. After being exposed to the American Health Care Multi tier System slaves I really mean " take care of yourself " if you get my drift. Dr. Reinhardt M.D.(accreditted medical school graduate title) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 __ habeas_1 Chinese Medicine , ACUDOC11 11/25/2009 11:48:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: DCs treating cancer Fellows(not to be confused with a protected " title " conferred by the AMA Council on Graduate Medical Education lol): I must add to my list the multi tiered physician substitute RN licensees sponsored by hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry and big Pharma Drug Stores called " Nurse Practitioners " who have severely limited the earning capacity of what few M.D.'s that were left with their own cash registers as G.P's. Not to forget the alleged Physician Assistants who are also paid not by the M.D. but rather hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry etc. And what about expanded scope Osteopaths who suddenly drop spinal manipulation to practice Allopathic Ophthalmology, Orthopod Surgery, General Surgery, and Emergency medicine after hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry made a handshake deal with the AMA and AOA? Single tier licensees you say Mike? I doubt it. Take care of yourself. After being exposed to the American Health Care Multi tier System slaves I really mean " take care of yourself " if you get my drift. Dr. Reinhardt M.D.(accreditted medical school graduate title) ---------- Original Message ---------- ACUDOC11 Chinese Medicine Cc: habeas_1 Re: DCs treating cancer Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:48:17 EST It appears that one must repeat themselves when responding to you. Who whispers in your ear - talking points? I ASKED you......to tell ME..... IF it was STILL legal in OK. It was back approximately in 2002 when Dr Taylorm DC (Oklahoma) taught IV therapy around the US to Chiros under auspices of Dr Winterstein, DC of National Chiropractic College of Illinois. So obviously you must know that it was SHUT DOWN. I noticed you avoided answering Dr Reinhardt's question about single versus multi-tiered chiropractic licensure. Not about schools and certainly not about Acupuncture or OM. Dr Paul told me in the past that ALL the professions are multi-tiered licensing. This is how earning capacity is limited. Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 5:41:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, You can find the OK board website at http://www.ok.gov/chiropracticboard/. Now I would like to read about the DC's that are treating cancer and using IVs. Can you share the link? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc __________ _Auto Insurance Quotes Get competitive auto insurance quotes. Save up to 35%._ (http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2242/c?cp=5aQKYHAoyPAcd6Tl6kZJcgAAJ1HXh3\ Q-qsfi3nfRh5nji zHtAAQAAAAFAAAAAOOlWz4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQlCQAAAAA=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Single in the sense that licensing and education are held at a constant. This issues are separate but important as well. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:12:32 -0500 Fwd: DCs treating cancer __ habeas_1 Chinese Medicine , ACUDOC11 11/25/2009 11:48:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: DCs treating cancer Fellows(not to be confused with a protected " title " conferred by the AMA Council on Graduate Medical Education lol): I must add to my list the multi tiered physician substitute RN licensees sponsored by hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry and big Pharma Drug Stores called " Nurse Practitioners " who have severely limited the earning capacity of what few M.D.'s that were left with their own cash registers as G.P's. Not to forget the alleged Physician Assistants who are also paid not by the M.D. but rather hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry etc. And what about expanded scope Osteopaths who suddenly drop spinal manipulation to practice Allopathic Ophthalmology, Orthopod Surgery, General Surgery, and Emergency medicine after hospital corporations, HMOs/Insurance industry made a handshake deal with the AMA and AOA? Single tier licensees you say Mike? I doubt it. Take care of yourself. After being exposed to the American Health Care Multi tier System slaves I really mean " take care of yourself " if you get my drift. Dr. Reinhardt M.D.(accreditted medical school graduate title) ---------- Original Message ---------- ACUDOC11 Chinese Medicine Cc: habeas_1 Re: DCs treating cancer Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:48:17 EST It appears that one must repeat themselves when responding to you. Who whispers in your ear - talking points? I ASKED you......to tell ME..... IF it was STILL legal in OK. It was back approximately in 2002 when Dr Taylorm DC (Oklahoma) taught IV therapy around the US to Chiros under auspices of Dr Winterstein, DC of National Chiropractic College of Illinois. So obviously you must know that it was SHUT DOWN. I noticed you avoided answering Dr Reinhardt's question about single versus multi-tiered chiropractic licensure. Not about schools and certainly not about Acupuncture or OM. Dr Paul told me in the past that ALL the professions are multi-tiered licensing. This is how earning capacity is limited. Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 5:41:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, You can find the OK board website at http://www.ok.gov/chiropracticboard/. Now I would like to read about the DC's that are treating cancer and using IVs. Can you share the link? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc ________ _Auto Insurance Quotes Get competitive auto insurance quotes. Save up to 35%._ (http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2242/c?cp=5aQKYHAoyPAcd6Tl6kZJcgAAJ1HXh3\ Q-qsfi3nfRh5nji zHtAAQAAAAFAAAAAOOlWz4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQlCQAAAAA=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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