R: R: Ren shen and Seizures

November 23, 2009

My dear Yehuda, till now pathogenesis seems to be related with toxoplasmosis

(I'm blind in the left eye, due to the same infection when I was in my

mother's uterus, 53 years ago); all the scans are negative, but I did not

have no MR, yet. I'm taking phenobarbital and both Keppra and Lamictal were

considered with my friend Neurologist, but we are not very sure about a full

success in using them, in my case. I prefer Xiao Yao San: in these years,

maybe the best result. Think that the ultimate dose of it (beginning with a

third of the whole dose), when I reached the 2/3 of the dose, after two days

I had the crisis (phase in washing-out my liver is always heavy at the first

times). I agree that's really revolutionary and that it works: I only have

to remember I'm not a Superman and maybe rest just a bit more... ;-) Without

my herbal aid, surely I feel worse, in forcefulness, both physical and

menthal. Could is this why Bo He is in the formula? (Menthal comes from

Mentha....).

Big hugs, Gabriele

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frischman

Inviato: lunedì 23 novembre 2009 9.53

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Oggetto: Re: R: Ren shen and Seizures

Gabriele,

Have you determined the pathogenesis of your seizure disorder? What have

brain scans shown? Are you still taking Phenobarbital? Have you considered

other anti-convulsants such as Keppra or Lamictal?Again, I would strongly

recommend considering using Chinese herbal formulas in combination with

smart drugs to mitigate side effects. This is really revolutionary work. I

believe it can have a dramatic effect on the quality of life, and even save

lives.

All the best,

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Fri, November 20, 2009 4:23:01 AM

R: Ren shen and Seizures

Dear Yehuda, Bai Ren Shen, the whitish root, even if described as a drug who

calms the spirit, can easely drain up to head the tans, causing seizures, as

I could experienced on myself just about twenty years ago. I tried in

treating my epilepsy with the mostly used formulas as Liu Wei Di Huang Wan,

up to treat my fake Heat due to the emptiness in Kidney Yin (my mother while

pregnant had Toxoplasmosis) and Jing. Adding Tian Ma Gou Teng Yin, for a

while it seemed to be good, only with once a year/seizure when asleep.

Later, in a morning of 1995 I had severe seizures: I couldn't go on, because

of my daughter and my 4 years old son. I began Phenobarbital (200 mg. per

day) and my life suddenly improved, even if with the well known

side-effects, as fatigue and lack of sexual power. Until just a week ago, I

felt healthy, just adding Xiao Yao San or He Shou Wu, when requested. One

week ago, after an heavy working period and not sleeping enough (easy, when

you feel yourself a " Superman " ) I had newly seizures, without radiological

signs and with a perfect steady-state in drugs. Now I know I'm not a

super-hero, but a quite normal man, even if just a bit more lucky. Tai Zi

Shen, in conclusion, appears a much more better solution, when you need to

enhance up Qi of the body, both Kidney and Lungs. Thank you for your story,

sorry, love story. Bring to Chana just a gentle kiss on a cheek from me.

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frischman

Inviato: venerdì 20 novembre 2009 10.02

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Oggetto: Re: Ren shen and Seizures

Sorry for not answering sooner, Nam. It is very important to remember to

consider the pathogenesis of the illness. In the case of my wife, there is

hyperstimulation from the excess electrical activity in her brain from the

ECT she had, that I wrote about yesterday. That is why her pattern needs to

be viewed, at its root as an replete pattern, and any therapies involving

stimulation or tonification need to be considered with extreme care and

deliberation. The reason why Ren Shen was wrong for her whereas Tai Zi Shen

is beneficial, is because Ren Shen treat core Kidney Qi and Jing vacuity.

Yet her " slowness " is not from lack of material, but rather from complete

exhaustion. She is lacking rest, not Jing. Yet on a more superficial level,

her lung Qi and Yin are exhausted, she breathes very shallowly, and as such

the Tai Zi Shen gently is revitalizing. It is for the same reason that she

has done very poorly with scalp acupuncture. Ironically, it is

just too close to the area of her greatest sensitivity. As such she had

seizures, rather than preventing them when she received scalp acupuncture,

and the same with needling Du 26--That set in motion, the shaking of her

chin back 10 years ago.

respectfully,

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

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Fri, November 13, 2009 9:28:07 PM

Ren shen and Seizures

Thanks Yehuda for your information.

This is very beneficial to my diagnosis. I will look into this later and

find out why Tai Zi Shen works, and Ren Shen makes it worse. Did she take a

formula or a single herb?

But I do not why Ren Shen made it worse and restarted all the problems.

Does anybody have any ideas?

Nam Nguyen

November 24, 2009

I would strongly suggest taking an MRI to try to really find the focus of your

illness. Of course, Xiao Yao San is a wonderful, balancing formula for liver qi

stagnation with blood vacuity, which will help you stay more in balance, but as

I have mentioned, there are so many aspects to seizure disorders, that IMHO, you

do yourself a disservice by limiting yourself to just XYS.

My very best,

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Mon, November 23, 2009 4:20:22 AM