Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Dear Yehuda, Bai Ren Shen, the whitish root, even if described as a drug who calms the spirit, can easely drain up to head the tans, causing seizures, as I could experienced on myself just about twenty years ago. I tried in treating my epilepsy with the mostly used formulas as Liu Wei Di Huang Wan, up to treat my fake Heat due to the emptiness in Kidney Yin (my mother while pregnant had Toxoplasmosis) and Jing. Adding Tian Ma Gou Teng Yin, for a while it seemed to be good, only with once a year/seizure when asleep. Later, in a morning of 1995 I had severe seizures: I couldn't go on, because of my daughter and my 4 years old son. I began Phenobarbital (200 mg. per day) and my life suddenly improved, even if with the well known side-effects, as fatigue and lack of sexual power. Until just a week ago, I felt healthy, just adding Xiao Yao San or He Shou Wu, when requested. One week ago, after an heavy working period and not sleeping enough (easy, when you feel yourself a " Superman " ) I had newly seizures, without radiological signs and with a perfect steady-state in drugs. Now I know I'm not a super-hero, but a quite normal man, even if just a bit more lucky. Tai Zi Shen, in conclusion, appears a much more better solution, when you need to enhance up Qi of the body, both Kidney and Lungs. Thank you for your story, sorry, love story. Bring to Chana just a gentle kiss on a cheek from me. _____ Da: Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine Per conto di yehuda frischman Inviato: venerdì 20 novembre 2009 10.02 A: Chinese Medicine Oggetto: Re: Ren shen and Seizures Sorry for not answering sooner, Nam. It is very important to remember to consider the pathogenesis of the illness. In the case of my wife, there is hyperstimulation from the excess electrical activity in her brain from the ECT she had, that I wrote about yesterday. That is why her pattern needs to be viewed, at its root as an replete pattern, and any therapies involving stimulation or tonification need to be considered with extreme care and deliberation. The reason why Ren Shen was wrong for her whereas Tai Zi Shen is beneficial, is because Ren Shen treat core Kidney Qi and Jing vacuity. Yet her " slowness " is not from lack of material, but rather from complete exhaustion. She is lacking rest, not Jing. Yet on a more superficial level, her lung Qi and Yin are exhausted, she breathes very shallowly, and as such the Tai Zi Shen gently is revitalizing. It is for the same reason that she has done very poorly with scalp acupuncture. Ironically, it is just too close to the area of her greatest sensitivity. As such she had seizures, rather than preventing them when she received scalp acupuncture, and the same with needling Du 26--That set in motion, the shaking of her chin back 10 years ago. respectfully, ________________________________ Nam Nguyen <dr_namnguyen58@ <dr_namnguyen58%40> > Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40> Chinese_Medicine Fri, November 13, 2009 9:28:07 PM Ren shen and Seizures Thanks Yehuda for your information. This is very beneficial to my diagnosis. I will look into this later and find out why Tai Zi Shen works, and Ren Shen makes it worse. Did she take a formula or a single herb? But I do not why Ren Shen made it worse and restarted all the problems. Does anybody have any ideas? Nam Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Gabriele, Have you determined the pathogenesis of your seizure disorder? What have brain scans shown? Are you still taking Phenobarbital? Have you considered other anti-convulsants such as Keppra or Lamictal?Again, I would strongly recommend considering using Chinese herbal formulas in combination with smart drugs to mitigate side effects. This is really revolutionary work. I believe it can have a dramatic effect on the quality of life, and even save lives. All the best, ________________________________ <saudelligabriele Chinese Medicine Fri, November 20, 2009 4:23:01 AM R: Ren shen and Seizures Dear Yehuda, Bai Ren Shen, the whitish root, even if described as a drug who calms the spirit, can easely drain up to head the tans, causing seizures, as I could experienced on myself just about twenty years ago. I tried in treating my epilepsy with the mostly used formulas as Liu Wei Di Huang Wan, up to treat my fake Heat due to the emptiness in Kidney Yin (my mother while pregnant had Toxoplasmosis) and Jing. Adding Tian Ma Gou Teng Yin, for a while it seemed to be good, only with once a year/seizure when asleep. Later, in a morning of 1995 I had severe seizures: I couldn't go on, because of my daughter and my 4 years old son. I began Phenobarbital (200 mg. per day) and my life suddenly improved, even if with the well known side-effects, as fatigue and lack of sexual power. Until just a week ago, I felt healthy, just adding Xiao Yao San or He Shou Wu, when requested. One week ago, after an heavy working period and not sleeping enough (easy, when you feel yourself a " Superman " ) I had newly seizures, without radiological signs and with a perfect steady-state in drugs. Now I know I'm not a super-hero, but a quite normal man, even if just a bit more lucky. Tai Zi Shen, in conclusion, appears a much more better solution, when you need to enhance up Qi of the body, both Kidney and Lungs. Thank you for your story, sorry, love story. Bring to Chana just a gentle kiss on a cheek from me. _____ Da: Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine [Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine ] Per conto di yehuda frischman Inviato: venerdì 20 novembre 2009 10.02 A: Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine Oggetto: Re: Ren shen and Seizures Sorry for not answering sooner, Nam. It is very important to remember to consider the pathogenesis of the illness. In the case of my wife, there is hyperstimulation from the excess electrical activity in her brain from the ECT she had, that I wrote about yesterday. That is why her pattern needs to be viewed, at its root as an replete pattern, and any therapies involving stimulation or tonification need to be considered with extreme care and deliberation. The reason why Ren Shen was wrong for her whereas Tai Zi Shen is beneficial, is because Ren Shen treat core Kidney Qi and Jing vacuity. Yet her " slowness " is not from lack of material, but rather from complete exhaustion. She is lacking rest, not Jing. Yet on a more superficial level, her lung Qi and Yin are exhausted, she breathes very shallowly, and as such the Tai Zi Shen gently is revitalizing. It is for the same reason that she has done very poorly with scalp acupuncture. Ironically, it is just too close to the area of her greatest sensitivity. As such she had seizures, rather than preventing them when she received scalp acupuncture, and the same with needling Du 26--That set in motion, the shaking of her chin back 10 years ago. respectfully, www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com ____________ _________ _________ __ Nam Nguyen <dr_namnguyen58@ <dr_namnguye n58%40. com> > Traditional_ <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com> Chinese_Medicine Fri, November 13, 2009 9:28:07 PM Ren shen and Seizures Thanks Yehuda for your information. This is very beneficial to my diagnosis. I will look into this later and find out why Tai Zi Shen works, and Ren Shen makes it worse. Did she take a formula or a single herb? But I do not why Ren Shen made it worse and restarted all the problems. Does anybody have any ideas? Nam Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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