Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Dear Nam, Betty and all, First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved in the pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well as many dead ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were given, and approaches suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 years between 1990 and 1999, we traveled to " experts " around the city, the country and world, seeing over 200 practitioners, Western, Eastern, alternative and conventional, attempting to resolve her seizure disorder. I began formally studying and CranioSacral therapy in 2000. Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not in material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in Feb 1990, we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, and I had a flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now rent in a 2 bedroom apartment. But the learning that life as well as formal education has taught me has made me a much wealthier man than I could ever have imagined. But I digress. First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. Originally, back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of replete and vacuous heat. The trouble was that nourishing the empty heat engendered stagnation and phlegm, both visible and invisible and yet " reducing " the excess heat, created Qi and Yin vacuity, and stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly 20 years, the replete fire is considerably reduced, and her state is much more one of emptiness and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm from deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well as the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as hyperactivity in the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, particularly with a woman, there is blood xu component with accompanying yin xu. Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon my journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she start to have seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT scans, and lumbar punctures all came back being either negative or non-conclusive. Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the time, she and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud neighbors who played the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. After giving birth, she was not allowed to rest or sleep, and developed post-partum depression. Her ex-husband, in his great wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric hospital where she received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen grand mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. I am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an imprint on Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up into an explosion as a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese medicine, nutriceuticals and Craniosacral therapy have all been helpful in reducing many of her symptoms: Sleep is good, she is no longer constipated, she no longer has frequent urination, her speech is clearer, and her skin is soft and unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we could not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam.(Keppra). Keppra is a derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, which raises IQ, promotes concentration, and has a mild anti-convulsive effect. Piracetam works by stimulating the production of acetylcholine. Oh, one other thing: Chana has not able to tolerate any Western drugs, nearly dying from a reaction to Lamictal (an anticonvulsant). After the most recent procedure, the lumbar puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, virus or fungus in the CS fluid-negative), our neurologist suggested giving Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For the first time, I was intrigued, knowing that it came from Piracetam. Well low and behold, for the first time in 20 years, Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As a matter of fact, she went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was no question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways to mitigate the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have succeeded. First of all, along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking 3g of Piracetam. Second despite the seizures being pretty much under control, her muscle spasms and motion tremor had not improved. I therefore added yet another nootropic, Picamilon, a drug developed in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA and Niacin, to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and spasms are becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred the night after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to me, she decided to fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I decided to give RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she had her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. The next day her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next night she was drenched in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the seizure. When I switched to the current formula, all the problems stopped. Here is the formula: FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, Mai Men Dong 24, Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu 25, SuanZaoRen 12, BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, YuJin 6, and Shi Chang Pu 3. I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the most efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness and awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of Chana's problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing accompanying symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, paradoxically increasing the tremor and even precipitating seizures. Yet the beautifully effective Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), left her acting like a zombie, which was unacceptable. By marrying together the best of both worlds, I look forward to revitalizing our marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in deep love, and lots of giving. ________________________________ chihealing <medicwoman Chinese Medicine Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM Re: Renshen and Seizures Yehuda, Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully prevent your wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time you posted it. My Mom is now have seizures and I would like a lead on developing a formula that would help to prevent them. Thank you and God Bless....... ......... .Betty Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda frischman <@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past 4-5 month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of factors that I will relate to you when I have time--just not now. What I would like to relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I have written for you have generally included TaiZiShen, which she was doing very well with. However, because she was doing so well, I thought that I would give a 6g dose of RenShen a shot because of its cognicence enhancement properties. Unfortunately, for the first time in months, her spasms increased, she had incontinence, and last night a seizure. > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of interest. > > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Very touching, Yehuda. Thanks for sharing that. Anne Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com - " yehuda frischman " < " Traditional " <Chinese Medicine > Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:32:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern  Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs  Dear Nam, Betty and all, First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved in the pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well as many dead ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were given, and approaches suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 years between 1990 and 1999, we traveled to " experts " around the city, the country and world, seeing over 200 practitioners, Western, Eastern, alternative and conventional, attempting to resolve her seizure disorder. I began formally studying and CranioSacral therapy in 2000. Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not in material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in Feb 1990, we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, and I had a flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now rent in a 2 bedroom apartment. But the learning that life as well as formal education has taught me has made me a much wealthier man than I could ever have imagined. But I digress. First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. Originally, back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of replete and vacuous heat. The trouble was that nourishing the empty heat engendered stagnation and phlegm, both visible and invisible and yet " reducing " the excess heat, created Qi and Yin vacuity, and stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly 20 years, the replete fire is considerably reduced, and her state is much more one of emptiness and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm from deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well as the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as hyperactivity in the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, particularly with a woman, there is blood xu component with accompanying yin xu. Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon my journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she start to have seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT scans, and lumbar punctures all came back being either negative or non-conclusive. Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the time, she and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud neighbors who played the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. After giving birth, she was not allowed to rest or sleep, and developed post-partum depression. Her ex-husband, in his great wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric hospital where she received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen grand mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. I am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an imprint on Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up into an explosion as a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese medicine, nutriceuticals and Craniosacral therapy have all been helpful in reducing many of her symptoms: Sleep is good, she is no longer constipated, she no longer has frequent urination, her speech is clearer, and her skin is soft and unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we could not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam.(Keppra). Keppra is a derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, which raises IQ, promotes concentration, and has a mild anti-convulsive effect. Piracetam works by stimulating the production of acetylcholine. Oh, one other thing: Chana has not able to tolerate any Western drugs, nearly dying from a reaction to Lamictal (an anticonvulsant). After the most recent procedure, the lumbar puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, virus or fungus in the CS fluid-negative), our neurologist suggested giving Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For the first time, I was intrigued, knowing that it came from Piracetam. Well low and behold, for the first time in 20 years, Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As a matter of fact, she went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was no question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways to mitigate the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have succeeded. First of all, along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking 3g of Piracetam. Second despite the seizures being pretty much under control, her muscle spasms and motion tremor had not improved. I therefore added yet another nootropic, Picamilon, a drug developed in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA and Niacin, to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and spasms are becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred the night after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to me, she decided to fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I decided to give RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she had her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. The next day her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next night she was drenched in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the seizure. When I switched to the current formula, all the problems stopped. Here is the formula: FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, Mai Men Dong 24, Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu 25, SuanZaoRen 12, BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, YuJin 6, and Shi Chang Pu 3. I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the most efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness and awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of Chana's problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing accompanying symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, paradoxically increasing the tremor and even precipitating seizures. Yet the beautifully effective Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), left her acting like a zombie, which was unacceptable. By marrying together the best of both worlds, I look forward to revitalizing our marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in deep love, and lots of giving. ________________________________ chihealing < medicwoman > Chinese Medicine Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM Re: Renshen and Seizures Yehuda, Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully prevent your wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time you posted it. My Mom is now have seizures and I would like a lead on developing a formula that would help to prevent them. Thank you and God Bless....... ......... .Betty Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda frischman <@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past 4-5 month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of factors that I will relate to you when I have time--just not now. What I would like to relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I have written for you have generally included TaiZiShen, which she was doing very well with. However, because she was doing so well, I thought that I would give a 6g dose of RenShen a shot because of its cognicence enhancement properties. Unfortunately, for the first time in months, her spasms increased, she had incontinence, and last night a seizure. > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of interest. > > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yehuda, Thanks for sharing...I'm inspired by your lives. Just curious about the Ren Shen.... Was the Ren shen whole form or powder? Was it white or red? From China or Korea? Did it have it's " head " taken off? Traditionally, in Korea, the head of the Ren shen can give headaches, raise BP and in extension... aggravate internal LV wind. So, you have to cut it off at the neck. K On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:32 AM, wrote: > > > Dear Nam, Betty and all, > > First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or > epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a > differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved in the > pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well as many dead > ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were given, and approaches > suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 years between 1990 and 1999, we > traveled to " experts " around the city, the country and world, seeing over > 200 practitioners, Western, Eastern, alternative and conventional, > attempting to resolve her seizure disorder. I began formally studying > and CranioSacral therapy in 2000. > > Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not in > material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in Feb 1990, > we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, and I had a > flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now rent in a 2 bedroom > apartment. But the learning that life as well as formal education has taught > me has made me a much wealthier man than I could ever have imagined. But I > digress. > > First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. Originally, > back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of replete and vacuous heat. > The trouble was that nourishing the empty heat engendered stagnation and > phlegm, both visible and invisible and yet " reducing " the excess heat, > created Qi and Yin vacuity, and stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly 20 > years, the replete fire is considerably reduced, and her state is much more > one of emptiness and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm > from deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well as > the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as hyperactivity in > the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, particularly with a woman, > there is blood xu component with accompanying yin xu. > > Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon my > journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she start to have > seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT scans, and lumbar > punctures all came back being either negative or non-conclusive. > > Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the time, she > and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud neighbors who played > the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. After giving birth, she was not > allowed to rest or sleep, and developed post-partum depression. Her > ex-husband, in his great wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric hospital > where she received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen > grand mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. I > am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an imprint on > Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up into an explosion as > a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese medicine, nutriceuticals and > Craniosacral therapy have all been helpful in reducing many of her symptoms: > Sleep is good, she is no longer constipated, she no longer has frequent > urination, her speech is clearer, and her skin is soft and > unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we could > not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam.(Keppra). Keppra is a > derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, which raises IQ, > promotes concentration, and has a mild anti-convulsive effect. Piracetam > works by stimulating the production of acetylcholine. Oh, one other thing: > Chana has not able to tolerate any Western drugs, nearly dying from a > reaction to Lamictal (an anticonvulsant). After the most recent procedure, > the lumbar puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, > virus or fungus in the CS fluid-negative), our neurologist suggested giving > Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For the first time, I > was intrigued, knowing that it came from Piracetam. Well low and behold, for > the first time in 20 years, Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As a > matter of fact, she went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 > undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle > weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was no > question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways to mitigate > the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have succeeded. First of all, > along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking 3g of Piracetam. Second despite > the seizures being pretty much under control, her muscle spasms and motion > tremor had not improved. I therefore added yet another nootropic, Picamilon, > a drug developed in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA > and Niacin, to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and spasms > are becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we > started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred the night > after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to me, she decided to > fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I decided to give > RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she had > her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. The next day > her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next night she was drenched > in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the seizure. When I switched to the > current formula, all the problems stopped. > > Here is the formula: > > FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, Mai > Men Dong 24, > Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu 25, > SuanZaoRen 12, > BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, YuJin 6, > and Shi Chang Pu 3. > > I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the most > efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness and > awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of Chana's > problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing accompanying > symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, paradoxically increasing the > tremor and even precipitating seizures. Yet the beautifully effective > Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), left her acting like a zombie, which > was unacceptable. By marrying together the best of both worlds, I look > forward to revitalizing our marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in deep > love, and lots of giving. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > chihealing <medicwoman <medicwoman%40gmail.com>> > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM > Re: Renshen and Seizures > > Yehuda, > Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully prevent your > wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time you posted it. My Mom > is now have seizures and I would like a lead on developing a formula that > would help to prevent them. Thank you and God Bless....... ......... .Betty > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda frischman > <@.. .> wrote: > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or > undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past 4-5 > month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of factors that I > will relate to you when I have time--just not now. What I would like to > relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I have written for you have > generally included TaiZiShen, which she was doing very well with. However, > because she was doing so well, I thought that I would give a 6g dose of > RenShen a shot because of its cognicence enhancement properties. > Unfortunately, for the first time in months, her spasms increased, she had > incontinence, and last night a seizure. > > > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of interest. > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. net > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yehuda. Your perseverance and love is an inspiration. My son had reactions to Keppra, Topomax and now he is on Lamictal. So far no reactions. He is scheduled for the Vagus Nerve Stimulation implant. We'll see if that makes a difference. I tried Chinese herbs with him but they seemed to get worse and acupuncture is difficult as he is overly sensitive. We tried hyperbaric chamber etc.... I'm sure anything I say is not news to you. Just wanted to let you know that your posts help to shed some light on something that at times seem there is no end. Thank you, Anne Biris Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:32 AM, wrote: > Dear Nam, Betty and all, > > First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or > epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a > differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved > in the pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well > as many dead ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were > given, and approaches suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 > years between 1990 and 1999, we traveled to " experts " around the > city, the country and world, seeing over 200 practitioners, Western, > Eastern, alternative and conventional, attempting to resolve her > seizure disorder. I began formally studying and > CranioSacral therapy in 2000. > > Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not > in material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in > Feb 1990, we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, > and I had a flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now > rent in a 2 bedroom apartment. But the learning that life as well as > formal education has taught me has made me a much wealthier man than > I could ever have imagined. But I digress. > > First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. > Originally, back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of > replete and vacuous heat. The trouble was that nourishing the empty > heat engendered stagnation and phlegm, both visible and invisible > and yet " reducing " the excess heat, created Qi and Yin vacuity, and > stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly 20 years, the replete fire > is considerably reduced, and her state is much more one of emptiness > and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm from > deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well > as the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as > hyperactivity in the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, > particularly with a woman, there is blood xu component with > accompanying yin xu. > > Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon > my journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she > start to have seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT > scans, and lumbar punctures all came back being either negative or > non-conclusive. > > Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the > time, she and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud > neighbors who played the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. > After giving birth, she was not allowed to rest or sleep, and > developed post-partum depression. Her ex-husband, in his great > wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric hospital where she > received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen grand > mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. I > am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an > imprint on Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up > into an explosion as a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese > medicine, nutriceuticals and Craniosacral therapy have all been > helpful in reducing many of her symptoms: Sleep is good, she is no > longer constipated, she no longer has frequent urination, her speech > is clearer, and her skin is soft and > unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we > could not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam.(Keppra). > Keppra is a derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, > which raises IQ, promotes concentration, and has a mild anti- > convulsive effect. Piracetam works by stimulating the production of > acetylcholine. Oh, one other thing: Chana has not able to tolerate > any Western drugs, nearly dying from a reaction to Lamictal (an > anticonvulsant). After the most recent procedure, the lumbar > puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, virus > or fungus in the CS fluid-negative), our neurologist suggested > giving Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For > the first time, I was intrigued, knowing that it came from > Piracetam. Well low and behold, for the first time in 20 years, > Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As a matter of fact, she > went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 > undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle > weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was > no question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways > to mitigate the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have > succeeded. First of all, along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking > 3g of Piracetam. Second despite the seizures being pretty much under > control, her muscle spasms and motion tremor had not improved. I > therefore added yet another nootropic, Picamilon, a drug developed > in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA and Niacin, > to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and spasms are > becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we > started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred > the night after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to > me, she decided to fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I > decided to give > RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she > had her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. > The next day her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next > night she was drenched in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the > seizure. When I switched to the current formula, all the problems > stopped. > > Here is the formula: > > FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, > Mai Men Dong 24, > Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu > 25, SuanZaoRen 12, > BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, > YuJin 6, and Shi Chang Pu 3. > > I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the > most efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness > and awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of > Chana's problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing > accompanying symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, > paradoxically increasing the tremor and even precipitating seizures. > Yet the beautifully effective Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), > left her acting like a zombie, which was unacceptable. By marrying > together the best of both worlds, I look forward to revitalizing our > marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in deep love, and lots of > giving. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > chihealing <medicwoman > Chinese Medicine > Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM > Re: Renshen and Seizures > > Yehuda, > Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully > prevent your wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time > you posted it. My Mom is now have seizures and I would like a lead > on developing a formula that would help to prevent them. Thank you > and God Bless....... ......... .Betty > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda > frischman <@.. .> wrote: > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or > undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past > 4-5 month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of > factors that I will relate to you when I have time--just not now. > What I would like to relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I > have written for you have generally included TaiZiShen, which she > was doing very well with. However, because she was doing so well, I > thought that I would give a 6g dose of RenShen a shot because of its > cognicence enhancement properties. Unfortunately, for the first time > in months, her spasms increased, she had incontinence, and last > night a seizure. > > > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of > interest. > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. net > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hi all, --John- raise BP and in extension... aggravate internal LV wind. So, you have to cut it off at the neck. --- Ow. Yehuda, thank you for your informative post - what a journey!! I wanted to run two ideas by you - you mentioned that CM had not treated the root - could you tell us what has? The nootropic drugs you have used for her have certainly solved (hopefully permanently) the branch effects. The second one involves the support of one medicine by the other. As a recent example, I had a gentleman visit me with a new diagnosis of emphysema and was on three puffers which we giving him zero effect for nearly 5 weeks. I prescribed a formula to tonify the yang and he experienced immediate relief with his breathing and phlegm. When he came off the puffers a few days later, his symptoms worsened, never down to what he was before, but definitely worse. Without the herbs the puffers had no effect. Do you think that the nootropic would have worked 10 or 20 years ago? Thanks again, Hugo ________________________________ Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com http://www.middlemedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Hi Anne, Again, I believe that there are two keys: 1. Pathogenesis and 2. Differential diagnosis of patterns. Has the lamictal been helpful in preventing seizures? Have you noticed any side effects at all? Eli Lilly was famous for saying that there is no prescription drug that does not have side effects. It is here that smart drugs and Chinese herbs can be helpful--treating the side effects. Essentially the same way that in cancer treatments, we can use acupuncture and Chinese medicine to prevent the side effects of chemo. Anyway, I would really emphasize that you approach needs to be focused, and not just grasp for straws in treating his seizure disorder. Though it is very hard, it is incredibly important that you view you son the way that you would treat your patients--with focus and love, like a detective, a translator and a tour guide--making sense of the clues and messages that his body gives you. One more thought I want to share with you. Judaism teaches that before G-d creates any illness, he first creates its remedy, its antidote. SO DON'T LET YOURSELF GET DOWN! Keep persevering. Again, stay focused. And yes, evaluate your steps and pray for guidance. Don't be afraid! If I can help in any way, let me know. Good luck, ________________________________ Anne Biris <lotuskarma " Chinese Medicine " <Chinese Medicine > Thu, November 19, 2009 8:40:39 AM Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs Yehuda. Your perseverance and love is an inspiration. My son had reactions to Keppra, Topomax and now he is on Lamictal. So far no reactions. He is scheduled for the Vagus Nerve Stimulation implant. We'll see if that makes a difference. I tried Chinese herbs with him but they seemed to get worse and acupuncture is difficult as he is overly sensitive. We tried hyperbaric chamber etc.... I'm sure anything I say is not news to you. Just wanted to let you know that your posts help to shed some light on something that at times seem there is no end. Thank you, Anne Biris Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:32 AM, > wrote: > Dear Nam, Betty and all, > > First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or > epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a > differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved > in the pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well > as many dead ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were > given, and approaches suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 > years between 1990 and 1999, we traveled to " experts " around the > city, the country and world, seeing over 200 practitioners, Western, > Eastern, alternative and conventional, attempting to resolve her > seizure disorder. I began formally studying and > CranioSacral therapy in 2000. > > Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not > in material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in > Feb 1990, we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, > and I had a flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now > rent in a 2 bedroom apartment. But the learning that life as well as > formal education has taught me has made me a much wealthier man than > I could ever have imagined. But I digress. > > First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. > Originally, back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of > replete and vacuous heat. The trouble was that nourishing the empty > heat engendered stagnation and phlegm, both visible and invisible > and yet " reducing " the excess heat, created Qi and Yin vacuity, and > stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly 20 years, the replete fire > is considerably reduced, and her state is much more one of emptiness > and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm from > deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well > as the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as > hyperactivity in the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, > particularly with a woman, there is blood xu component with > accompanying yin xu. > > Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon > my journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she > start to have seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT > scans, and lumbar punctures all came back being either negative or > non-conclusive. > > Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the > time, she and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud > neighbors who played the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. > After giving birth, she was not allowed to rest or sleep, and > developed post-partum depression. Her ex-husband, in his great > wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric hospital where she > received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen grand > mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. I > am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an > imprint on Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up > into an explosion as a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese > medicine, nutriceuticals and Craniosacral therapy have all been > helpful in reducing many of her symptoms: Sleep is good, she is no > longer constipated, she no longer has frequent urination, her speech > is clearer, and her skin is soft and > unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we > could not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam. (Keppra). > Keppra is a derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, > which raises IQ, promotes concentration, and has a mild anti- > convulsive effect. Piracetam works by stimulating the production of > acetylcholine. Oh, one other thing: Chana has not able to tolerate > any Western drugs, nearly dying from a reaction to Lamictal (an > anticonvulsant) . After the most recent procedure, the lumbar > puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, virus > or fungus in the CS fluid-negative) , our neurologist suggested > giving Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For > the first time, I was intrigued, knowing that it came from > Piracetam. Well low and behold, for the first time in 20 years, > Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As a matter of fact, she > went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 > undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle > weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was > no question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways > to mitigate the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have > succeeded. First of all, along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking > 3g of Piracetam. Second despite the seizures being pretty much under > control, her muscle spasms and motion tremor had not improved. I > therefore added yet another nootropic, Picamilon, a drug developed > in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA and Niacin, > to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and spasms are > becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we > started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred > the night after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to > me, she decided to fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I > decided to give > RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she > had her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. > The next day her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next > night she was drenched in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the > seizure. When I switched to the current formula, all the problems > stopped. > > Here is the formula: > > FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, > Mai Men Dong 24, > Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu > 25, SuanZaoRen 12, > BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, > YuJin 6, and Shi Chang Pu 3. > > I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the > most efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness > and awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of > Chana's problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing > accompanying symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, > paradoxically increasing the tremor and even precipitating seizures. > Yet the beautifully effective Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), > left her acting like a zombie, which was unacceptable. By marrying > together the best of both worlds, I look forward to revitalizing our > marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in deep love, and lots of > giving. > > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > chihealing <medicwoman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM > Re: Renshen and Seizures > > Yehuda, > Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully > prevent your wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time > you posted it. My Mom is now have seizures and I would like a lead > on developing a formula that would help to prevent them. Thank you > and God Bless....... ......... .Betty > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda > frischman <@.. .> wrote: > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or > undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past > 4-5 month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of > factors that I will relate to you when I have time--just not now. > What I would like to relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I > have written for you have generally included TaiZiShen, which she > was doing very well with. However, because she was doing so well, I > thought that I would give a 6g dose of RenShen a shot because of its > cognicence enhancement properties. Unfortunately, for the first time > in months, her spasms increased, she had incontinence, and last > night a seizure. > > > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of > interest. > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Hi Kokko, it was whole sliced white Ren Shen, added the last 10 minutes of cooking. (Why in the world would I consider using Hong Shen (red ginseng) for my wife? She does very poorly in heat!) But the slices were small and so I don't believe that they had a head to them. All the best, ________________________________ <johnkokko Chinese Medicine Thu, November 19, 2009 7:03:18 AM Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs Yehuda, Thanks for sharing...I'm inspired by your lives. Just curious about the Ren Shen.... Was the Ren shen whole form or powder? Was it white or red? From China or Korea? Did it have it's " head " taken off? Traditionally, in Korea, the head of the Ren shen can give headaches, raise BP and in extension... aggravate internal LV wind. So, you have to cut it off at the neck. K On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:32 AM, wrote: > > > Dear Nam, Betty and all, > > First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or > epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a > differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved in the > pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well as many dead > ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were given, and approaches > suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 years between 1990 and 1999, we > traveled to " experts " around the city, the country and world, seeing over > 200 practitioners, Western, Eastern, alternative and conventional, > attempting to resolve her seizure disorder. I began formally studying > and CranioSacral therapy in 2000. > > Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not in > material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in Feb 1990, > we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, and I had a > flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now rent in a 2 bedroom > apartment. But the learning that life as well as formal education has taught > me has made me a much wealthier man than I could ever have imagined. But I > digress. > > First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. Originally, > back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of replete and vacuous heat. > The trouble was that nourishing the empty heat engendered stagnation and > phlegm, both visible and invisible and yet " reducing " the excess heat, > created Qi and Yin vacuity, and stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly 20 > years, the replete fire is considerably reduced, and her state is much more > one of emptiness and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm > from deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well as > the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as hyperactivity in > the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, particularly with a woman, > there is blood xu component with accompanying yin xu. > > Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon my > journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she start to have > seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT scans, and lumbar > punctures all came back being either negative or non-conclusive. > > Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the time, she > and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud neighbors who played > the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. After giving birth, she was not > allowed to rest or sleep, and developed post-partum depression. Her > ex-husband, in his great wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric hospital > where she received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen > grand mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. I > am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an imprint on > Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up into an explosion as > a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese medicine, nutriceuticals and > Craniosacral therapy have all been helpful in reducing many of her symptoms: > Sleep is good, she is no longer constipated, she no longer has frequent > urination, her speech is clearer, and her skin is soft and > unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we could > not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam.(Keppra). Keppra is a > derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, which raises IQ, > promotes concentration, and has a mild anti-convulsive effect. Piracetam > works by stimulating the production of acetylcholine. Oh, one other thing: > Chana has not able to tolerate any Western drugs, nearly dying from a > reaction to Lamictal (an anticonvulsant). After the most recent procedure, > the lumbar puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, > virus or fungus in the CS fluid-negative), our neurologist suggested giving > Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For the first time, I > was intrigued, knowing that it came from Piracetam. Well low and behold, for > the first time in 20 years, Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As a > matter of fact, she went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 > undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle > weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was no > question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways to mitigate > the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have succeeded. First of all, > along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking 3g of Piracetam. Second despite > the seizures being pretty much under control, her muscle spasms and motion > tremor had not improved. I therefore added yet another nootropic, Picamilon, > a drug developed in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA > and Niacin, to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and spasms > are becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we > started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred the night > after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to me, she decided to > fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I decided to give > RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she had > her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. The next day > her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next night she was drenched > in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the seizure. When I switched to the > current formula, all the problems stopped. > > Here is the formula: > > FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, Mai > Men Dong 24, > Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu 25, > SuanZaoRen 12, > BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, YuJin 6, > and Shi Chang Pu 3. > > I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the most > efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness and > awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of Chana's > problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing accompanying > symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, paradoxically increasing the > tremor and even precipitating seizures. Yet the beautifully effective > Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), left her acting like a zombie, which > was unacceptable. By marrying together the best of both worlds, I look > forward to revitalizing our marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in deep > love, and lots of giving. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > chihealing <medicwoman <medicwoman%40gmail.com>> > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM > Re: Renshen and Seizures > > Yehuda, > Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully prevent your > wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time you posted it. My Mom > is now have seizures and I would like a lead on developing a formula that > would help to prevent them. Thank you and God Bless....... ......... .Betty > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda frischman > <@.. .> wrote: > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or > undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past 4-5 > month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of factors that I > will relate to you when I have time--just not now. What I would like to > relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I have written for you have > generally included TaiZiShen, which she was doing very well with. However, > because she was doing so well, I thought that I would give a 6g dose of > RenShen a shot because of its cognicence enhancement properties. > Unfortunately, for the first time in months, her spasms increased, she had > incontinence, and last night a seizure. > > > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of interest. > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. net > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Hi Hugo, Yehuda, thank you for your informative post - what a journey!! I wanted to run two ideas by you - you mentioned that CM had not treated the root - could you tell us what has? The levetiracetam, by stopping the seizures. The nootropic drugs you have used for her have certainly solved (hopefully permanently) the branch effects. The second one involves the support of one medicine by the other. As a recent example, I had a gentleman visit me with a new diagnosis of emphysema and was on three puffers which we giving him zero effect for nearly 5 weeks. I prescribed a formula to tonify the yang and he experienced immediate relief with his breathing and phlegm. When he came off the puffers a few days later, his symptoms worsened, never down to what he was before, but definitely worse. Without the herbs the puffers had no effect. Do you think that the nootropic would have worked 10 or 20 years ago? Bravo! I now believe that nootropics, nutriceuticals and occasionally, pharmaceuticals can and should be used as adjuncts to Chinese herbs, when they are either unsuccessful or too week to give sustained results. Some purists might consider this approach sacrilegious, but if we are looking for clinical results and sustained healing, why not bring Chinese medicine to the 21st century and integrate these therapies together, again, as always determining the differential diagnosis and the pathogenesis. My very best, ________________________________ Hugo Ramiro <subincor Chinese Medicine Thu, November 19, 2009 9:20:26 AM Re: Chinese medicine, Renshen, Seizures, and smart drugs Hi all, --John- raise BP and in extension... aggravate internal LV wind. So, you have to cut it off at the neck. --- Ow. Hugo ____________ _________ _________ __ Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com http://www.middlemedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Yehuda, why the last 10 minutes of cooking? K On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:31 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Kokko, > > it was whole sliced white Ren Shen, added the last 10 minutes of cooking. > (Why in the world would I consider using Hong Shen (red ginseng) for my > wife? She does very poorly in heat!) But the slices were small and so I > don't believe that they had a head to them. > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > <johnkokko <johnkokko%40gmail.com>> > > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > Thu, November 19, 2009 7:03:18 AM > Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs > > > Yehuda, > Thanks for sharing...I'm inspired by your lives. > > Just curious about the Ren Shen.... > Was the Ren shen whole form or powder? > Was it white or red? From China or Korea? > Did it have it's " head " taken off? > Traditionally, in Korea, the head of the Ren shen can give headaches, > raise BP and in extension... aggravate internal LV wind. > So, you have to cut it off at the neck. > > K > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:32 AM, yehuda frischman <<%40> > >wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Nam, Betty and all, > > > > First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or > > epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a > > differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved in > the > > pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well as many dead > > ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were given, and > approaches > > suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 years between 1990 and 1999, > we > > traveled to " experts " around the city, the country and world, seeing over > > 200 practitioners, Western, Eastern, alternative and conventional, > > attempting to resolve her seizure disorder. I began formally studying > > and CranioSacral therapy in 2000. > > > > Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not in > > material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in Feb > 1990, > > we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, and I had a > > flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now rent in a 2 > bedroom > > apartment. But the learning that life as well as formal education has > taught > > me has made me a much wealthier man than I could ever have imagined. But > I > > digress. > > > > First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. > Originally, > > back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of replete and vacuous > heat. > > The trouble was that nourishing the empty heat engendered stagnation and > > phlegm, both visible and invisible and yet " reducing " the excess heat, > > created Qi and Yin vacuity, and stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly > 20 > > years, the replete fire is considerably reduced, and her state is much > more > > one of emptiness and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm > > from deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well > as > > the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as hyperactivity > in > > the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, particularly with a > woman, > > there is blood xu component with accompanying yin xu. > > > > Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon my > > journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she start to > have > > seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT scans, and lumbar > > punctures all came back being either negative or non-conclusive. > > > > Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the time, > she > > and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud neighbors who > played > > the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. After giving birth, she was > not > > allowed to rest or sleep, and developed post-partum depression. Her > > ex-husband, in his great wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric > hospital > > where she received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen > > grand mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. > I > > am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an imprint > on > > Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up into an explosion > as > > a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese medicine, nutriceuticals and > > Craniosacral therapy have all been helpful in reducing many of her > symptoms: > > Sleep is good, she is no longer constipated, she no longer has frequent > > urination, her speech is clearer, and her skin is soft and > > unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we could > > not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam.(Keppra). Keppra is a > > derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, which raises IQ, > > promotes concentration, and has a mild anti-convulsive effect. Piracetam > > works by stimulating the production of acetylcholine. Oh, one other > thing: > > Chana has not able to tolerate any Western drugs, nearly dying from a > > reaction to Lamictal (an anticonvulsant). After the most recent > procedure, > > the lumbar puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, > > virus or fungus in the CS fluid-negative), our neurologist suggested > giving > > Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For the first > time, I > > was intrigued, knowing that it came from Piracetam. Well low and behold, > for > > the first time in 20 years, Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As > a > > matter of fact, she went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 > > undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle > > weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was no > > question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways to > mitigate > > the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have succeeded. First of > all, > > along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking 3g of Piracetam. Second > despite > > the seizures being pretty much under control, her muscle spasms and > motion > > tremor had not improved. I therefore added yet another nootropic, > Picamilon, > > a drug developed in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA > > and Niacin, to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and > spasms > > are becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we > > started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred the > night > > after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to me, she decided > to > > fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I decided to give > > RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she had > > her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. The next > day > > her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next night she was > drenched > > in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the seizure. When I switched to > the > > current formula, all the problems stopped. > > > > Here is the formula: > > > > FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, Mai > > Men Dong 24, > > Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu 25, > > SuanZaoRen 12, > > BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, YuJin 6, > > and Shi Chang Pu 3. > > > > I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the most > > efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness and > > awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of Chana's > > problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing accompanying > > symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, paradoxically increasing > the > > tremor and even precipitating seizures. Yet the beautifully effective > > Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), left her acting like a zombie, which > > was unacceptable. By marrying together the best of both worlds, I look > > forward to revitalizing our marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in > deep > > love, and lots of giving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > chihealing <medicwoman <medicwoman%40gmail.com><medicwoman% > 40gmail.com>> > > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM > > Re: Renshen and Seizures > > > > Yehuda, > > Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully prevent > your > > wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time you posted it. My > Mom > > is now have seizures and I would like a lead on developing a formula that > > would help to prevent them. Thank you and God Bless....... ......... > .Betty > > > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda frischman > > <@.. .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or > > undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past 4-5 > > month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of factors > that I > > will relate to you when I have time--just not now. What I would like to > > relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I have written for you have > > generally included TaiZiShen, which she was doing very well with. > However, > > because she was doing so well, I thought that I would give a 6g dose of > > RenShen a shot because of its cognicence enhancement properties. > > Unfortunately, for the first time in months, her spasms increased, she > had > > incontinence, and last night a seizure. > > > > > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of > interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. net > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Kokko, I always add Ren Shen at the end. I recall learning that back in school. I guess because it's expensive, and a relatively small dose is being used, that way its potency will not be compromised. 'make sense? ________________________________ <johnkokko Chinese Medicine Fri, November 20, 2009 7:43:53 PM Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs Yehuda, why the last 10 minutes of cooking? K On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:31 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Kokko, > > it was whole sliced white Ren Shen, added the last 10 minutes of cooking. > (Why in the world would I consider using Hong Shen (red ginseng) for my > wife? She does very poorly in heat!) But the slices were small and so I > don't believe that they had a head to them. > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > <johnkokko <johnkokko%40gmail.com>> > > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > Thu, November 19, 2009 7:03:18 AM > Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs > > > Yehuda, > Thanks for sharing...I'm inspired by your lives. > > Just curious about the Ren Shen.... > Was the Ren shen whole form or powder? > Was it white or red? From China or Korea? > Did it have it's " head " taken off? > Traditionally, in Korea, the head of the Ren shen can give headaches, > raise BP and in extension... aggravate internal LV wind. > So, you have to cut it off at the neck. > > K > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:32 AM, yehuda frischman <<%40> > >wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Nam, Betty and all, > > > > First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or > > epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a > > differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved in > the > > pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well as many dead > > ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were given, and > approaches > > suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 years between 1990 and 1999, > we > > traveled to " experts " around the city, the country and world, seeing over > > 200 practitioners, Western, Eastern, alternative and conventional, > > attempting to resolve her seizure disorder. I began formally studying > > and CranioSacral therapy in 2000. > > > > Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not in > > material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in Feb > 1990, > > we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, and I had a > > flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now rent in a 2 > bedroom > > apartment. But the learning that life as well as formal education has > taught > > me has made me a much wealthier man than I could ever have imagined. But > I > > digress. > > > > First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. > Originally, > > back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of replete and vacuous > heat. > > The trouble was that nourishing the empty heat engendered stagnation and > > phlegm, both visible and invisible and yet " reducing " the excess heat, > > created Qi and Yin vacuity, and stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly > 20 > > years, the replete fire is considerably reduced, and her state is much > more > > one of emptiness and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm > > from deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well > as > > the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as hyperactivity > in > > the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, particularly with a > woman, > > there is blood xu component with accompanying yin xu. > > > > Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon my > > journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she start to > have > > seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT scans, and lumbar > > punctures all came back being either negative or non-conclusive. > > > > Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the time, > she > > and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud neighbors who > played > > the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. After giving birth, she was > not > > allowed to rest or sleep, and developed post-partum depression. Her > > ex-husband, in his great wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric > hospital > > where she received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen > > grand mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. > I > > am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an imprint > on > > Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up into an explosion > as > > a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese medicine, nutriceuticals and > > Craniosacral therapy have all been helpful in reducing many of her > symptoms: > > Sleep is good, she is no longer constipated, she no longer has frequent > > urination, her speech is clearer, and her skin is soft and > > unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we could > > not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam.(Keppra). Keppra is a > > derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, which raises IQ, > > promotes concentration, and has a mild anti-convulsive effect. Piracetam > > works by stimulating the production of acetylcholine. Oh, one other > thing: > > Chana has not able to tolerate any Western drugs, nearly dying from a > > reaction to Lamictal (an anticonvulsant). After the most recent > procedure, > > the lumbar puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, > > virus or fungus in the CS fluid-negative), our neurologist suggested > giving > > Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For the first > time, I > > was intrigued, knowing that it came from Piracetam. Well low and behold, > for > > the first time in 20 years, Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As > a > > matter of fact, she went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 > > undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle > > weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was no > > question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways to > mitigate > > the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have succeeded. First of > all, > > along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking 3g of Piracetam. Second > despite > > the seizures being pretty much under control, her muscle spasms and > motion > > tremor had not improved. I therefore added yet another nootropic, > Picamilon, > > a drug developed in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA > > and Niacin, to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and > spasms > > are becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we > > started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred the > night > > after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to me, she decided > to > > fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I decided to give > > RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she had > > her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. The next > day > > her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next night she was > drenched > > in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the seizure. When I switched to > the > > current formula, all the problems stopped. > > > > Here is the formula: > > > > FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, Mai > > Men Dong 24, > > Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu 25, > > SuanZaoRen 12, > > BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, YuJin 6, > > and Shi Chang Pu 3. > > > > I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the most > > efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness and > > awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of Chana's > > problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing accompanying > > symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, paradoxically increasing > the > > tremor and even precipitating seizures. Yet the beautifully effective > > Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), left her acting like a zombie, which > > was unacceptable. By marrying together the best of both worlds, I look > > forward to revitalizing our marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in > deep > > love, and lots of giving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > chihealing <medicwoman <medicwoman%40gmail.com><medicwoman% > 40gmail.com>> > > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM > > Re: Renshen and Seizures > > > > Yehuda, > > Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully prevent > your > > wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time you posted it. My > Mom > > is now have seizures and I would like a lead on developing a formula that > > would help to prevent them. Thank you and God Bless....... ......... > .Betty > > > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda frischman > > <@.. .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or > > undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past 4-5 > > month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of factors > that I > > will relate to you when I have time--just not now. What I would like to > > relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I have written for you have > > generally included TaiZiShen, which she was doing very well with. > However, > > because she was doing so well, I thought that I would give a 6g dose of > > RenShen a shot because of its cognicence enhancement properties. > > Unfortunately, for the first time in months, her spasms increased, she > had > > incontinence, and last night a seizure. > > > > > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of > interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. net > > > www.traditionaljewishmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yehuda, Hmmm... I always thought that Ren shen should either be cooked longer or separately in a double ginseng cooker... if it's a large root, the center won't even be touched by a short boil. K > > -- > > > > www.tcmreview.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Hi Yehuda: --Hugo- you mentioned that CM had not treated the root - could you tell us what has? --Yehuda- The levetiracetam, by stopping the seizures. --- I would understand the seizures to be a branch manifestation of the root. The seizures are at the very end of a long line of problems. From what I can understand you mentioned that her seizures began after nerve and brain injury from electro-convulsive therapy. One of her roots lies there. I recall that you also mentioned a post-partum depression that preceded the ECT, that would be another of her roots. Dependency on a drug (the necessity of continual dosing) also indicates that the root is not being treated, similar to dopamine treatment of parkinson's, or insulin therapy for diabetes. When you describe systemic improvement due to CM, nutraceuticals and Craniosacral therapy, I don't see the branches being treated. I see a foundation being laid as the root slowly grows stronger. In terms of , I cannot find a way of describing someone's seizures as being the root of their seizures. The roots of internal wind are fire blazing, liver yin deficiency etc, the root of " wind " is not " wind " . Your wife is an incredibly difficult case and there is nothing but good karma for your consistency, effort and efficacy, obviously. I just would not downplay the *root* improvements in her case for the decades prior to your resolution of her main presenting complaint with the pharmaceutical. I would describe it as you succeeding at treating her root and laying a foundation for the pharmaceutical to do its job. When I read about this case, I also see another principle reflected in it: that for complex cases it is necessary to be invested for a great length of time with the person in question in order to clearly understand the patterns, changes and details of the case. Throwing a physician into the midst of an immensely complex case like this is counter-productive. This is a case where steps are taken carefully, over the long-term, measuring every nuance and effect, as Yehuda did. Thanks, Hugo ________________________________ Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com http://www.middlemedicine.org ________________________________ Chinese Medicine Fri, 20 November, 2009 4:41:26 Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs Hi Hugo, Yehuda, thank you for your informative post - what a journey!! I wanted to run two ideas by you - The nootropic drugs you have used for her have certainly solved (hopefully permanently) the branch effects. The second one involves the support of one medicine by the other. As a recent example, I had a gentleman visit me with a new diagnosis of emphysema and was on three puffers which we giving him zero effect for nearly 5 weeks. I prescribed a formula to tonify the yang and he experienced immediate relief with his breathing and phlegm. When he came off the puffers a few days later, his symptoms worsened, never down to what he was before, but definitely worse. Without the herbs the puffers had no effect. Do you think that the nootropic would have worked 10 or 20 years ago? Bravo! I now believe that nootropics, nutriceuticals and occasionally, pharmaceuticals can and should be used as adjuncts to Chinese herbs, when they are either unsuccessful or too week to give sustained results. Some purists might consider this approach sacrilegious, but if we are looking for clinical results and sustained healing, why not bring Chinese medicine to the 21st century and integrate these therapies together, again, as always determining the differential diagnosis and the pathogenesis. My very best, www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com ____________ _________ _________ __ Hugo Ramiro <subincor > Thu, November 19, 2009 9:20:26 AM Re: Chinese medicine, Renshen, Seizures, and smart drugs Hi all, --John- raise BP and in extension... aggravate internal LV wind. So, you have to cut it off at the neck. --- Ow. Hugo ____________ _________ _________ __ Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com http://www.middleme dicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Kokko, You're right, but I'm using some cheap quality thin sliced Ren Shen, (which I've been happy with, relatively speaking in the past), and with my wife, I wanted a mildly stimulating effect. Even that turned out to be too much. Meanwhile, it's now 11 days since the seizure, she's doing better each day, and though over the past nearly 20 years, an initial seizure was always followed up by a flurry of 5 to as many as 8 post-ictal seizures, this time it appears as if we will make it through without incident. 'Will keep informed.... All the best, ________________________________ <johnkokko Chinese Medicine Sun, November 22, 2009 7:38:42 PM Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs Yehuda, Hmmm... I always thought that Ren shen should either be cooked longer or separately in a double ginseng cooker... if it's a large root, the center won't even be touched by a short boil. K > > -- > > > > www.tcmreview.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I agree. The only reason to add an herb at the end is to preserve essential oils or heat-sensitive compounds. No need to do that with ginseng roots. - Bill Chinese Medicine , <johnkokko wrote: > > Yehuda, > > Hmmm... I always thought that Ren shen should either be cooked longer or > separately in a double ginseng cooker... if it's a large root, the center > won't even be touched by a short boil. > > K > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > www.tcmreview.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi Yehuda, My son is now 12 years old. Two days after he was born he had severe hypoglycemia - 22. It was then when he started having seizures - petit mal. He was prescribed phenobarbitol but there was no difference in the number of seizures. With the help of another doctor we were able to ween him off of it and that is when he started coming to life. Literally he was a vegetable for the first year and a half. Once we started weening him off his seizures decreased until he wasn't having any. That lasted for about a year and a half. He started seizures again and this time they were grand mal that would last for 20 minutes. These occured only when he had a fever and he was diagnosed with febrile seizures. The doctor thought that he might outgrow them. At that time they were occurring once every few months. For the past 6 years now he has been having them frequently. Sometimes once a week and other times 3 to 4 times per week. And they are grand mals each time. I now have Diastat to give him when he goes past 5 minutes and that brings him out of it within seconds. He is on 125 mg of Lamictal two times a day and clonazipam half a tablet once a day. He is still having seizures. I don't know that it is making any difference. What I do know is that he is not groggy like he was on Topomax and Trileptol. And the Keppra gave him a rash. We were supposed to give him a higher dose of Lamictal but that seemed to make his seizures worse. And the Clonazapam makes him really irritable. Half a tablet seems to be ok. But still the number of seizures hasn't seemed to change. I haven't noticed any noticible side effects yet from the Lamictal. What did your wife experience on it? His neurologist suggested the Vagus Nerve Stimulator implant as we seem to have run out of options with meds. I have tried over the years to find patterns. It took me awhile to detach myself a little emotionally so as to be able to see my son objectively. I tell you though, it still breaks my heart to watch him each time. And as he is getting older he is able to tell me when one is coming on. Much of the difficulty with getting a thorough differential diagnosis has been that my son is mentally handicapped as well and is not able to tell me details about how he is feeling. If I were to present to you some things that I have noticed would you possibly be able to help me come up with a thorough differential diagnosis? I often think that more minds other than my own are better when it comes to my son. Did your wife try the ketogenic diet? His doctor suggested it and I am worried about the health complications from changing his metabolism so drastically. Gratefully, Anne Biris On Nov 20, 2009, at 3:49 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > Hi Anne, > > Again, I believe that there are two keys: 1. Pathogenesis and 2. > Differential diagnosis of patterns. Has the lamictal been helpful in > preventing seizures? Have you noticed any side effects at all? Eli > Lilly was famous for saying that there is no prescription drug that > does not have side effects. It is here that smart drugs and Chinese > herbs can be helpful--treating the side effects. Essentially the > same way that in cancer treatments, we can use acupuncture and > Chinese medicine to prevent the side effects of chemo. > > Anyway, I would really emphasize that you approach needs to be > focused, and not just grasp for straws in treating his seizure > disorder. Though it is very hard, it is incredibly important that > you view you son the way that you would treat your patients--with > focus and love, like a detective, a translator and a tour guide-- > making sense of the clues and messages that his body gives you. > > One more thought I want to share with you. Judaism teaches that > before G-d creates any illness, he first creates its remedy, its > antidote. SO DON'T LET YOURSELF GET DOWN! Keep persevering. Again, > stay focused. And yes, evaluate your steps and pray for guidance. > > Don't be afraid! > > If I can help in any way, let me know. > > Good luck, > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Anne Biris <lotuskarma > " Chinese Medicine " <Chinese Medicine > > > Thu, November 19, 2009 8:40:39 AM > Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart > drugs > > Yehuda. Your perseverance and love is an inspiration. My son had > reactions to Keppra, Topomax and now he is on Lamictal. So far no > reactions. He is scheduled for the Vagus Nerve Stimulation implant. > We'll see if that makes a difference. I tried Chinese herbs with him > but they seemed to get worse and acupuncture is difficult as he is > overly sensitive. We tried hyperbaric chamber etc.... I'm sure > anything I say is not news to you. Just wanted to let you know that > your posts help to shed some light on something that at times seem > there is no end. > > Thank you, > > Anne Biris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:32 AM, > > wrote: > > > Dear Nam, Betty and all, > > > > First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or > > epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a > > differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved > > in the pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well > > as many dead ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were > > given, and approaches suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 > > years between 1990 and 1999, we traveled to " experts " around the > > city, the country and world, seeing over 200 practitioners, Western, > > Eastern, alternative and conventional, attempting to resolve her > > seizure disorder. I began formally studying and > > CranioSacral therapy in 2000. > > > > Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not > > in material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in > > Feb 1990, we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, > > and I had a flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now > > rent in a 2 bedroom apartment. But the learning that life as well as > > formal education has taught me has made me a much wealthier man than > > I could ever have imagined. But I digress. > > > > First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. > > Originally, back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of > > replete and vacuous heat. The trouble was that nourishing the empty > > heat engendered stagnation and phlegm, both visible and invisible > > and yet " reducing " the excess heat, created Qi and Yin vacuity, and > > stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly 20 years, the replete fire > > is considerably reduced, and her state is much more one of emptiness > > and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm from > > deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well > > as the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as > > hyperactivity in the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, > > particularly with a woman, there is blood xu component with > > accompanying yin xu. > > > > Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon > > my journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she > > start to have seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT > > scans, and lumbar punctures all came back being either negative or > > non-conclusive. > > > > Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the > > time, she and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud > > neighbors who played the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. > > After giving birth, she was not allowed to rest or sleep, and > > developed post-partum depression. Her ex-husband, in his great > > wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric hospital where she > > received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen grand > > mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. I > > am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an > > imprint on Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up > > into an explosion as a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese > > medicine, nutriceuticals and Craniosacral therapy have all been > > helpful in reducing many of her symptoms: Sleep is good, she is no > > longer constipated, she no longer has frequent urination, her speech > > is clearer, and her skin is soft and > > unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we > > could not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam. (Keppra). > > Keppra is a derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, > > which raises IQ, promotes concentration, and has a mild anti- > > convulsive effect. Piracetam works by stimulating the production of > > acetylcholine. Oh, one other thing: Chana has not able to tolerate > > any Western drugs, nearly dying from a reaction to Lamictal (an > > anticonvulsant) . After the most recent procedure, the lumbar > > puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, virus > > or fungus in the CS fluid-negative) , our neurologist suggested > > giving Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For > > the first time, I was intrigued, knowing that it came from > > Piracetam. Well low and behold, for the first time in 20 years, > > Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As a matter of fact, she > > went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 > > undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle > > weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was > > no question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways > > to mitigate the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have > > succeeded. First of all, along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking > > 3g of Piracetam. Second despite the seizures being pretty much under > > control, her muscle spasms and motion tremor had not improved. I > > therefore added yet another nootropic, Picamilon, a drug developed > > in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA and Niacin, > > to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and spasms are > > becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we > > started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred > > the night after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to > > me, she decided to fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I > > decided to give > > RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she > > had her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. > > The next day her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next > > night she was drenched in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the > > seizure. When I switched to the current formula, all the problems > > stopped. > > > > Here is the formula: > > > > FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, > > Mai Men Dong 24, > > Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu > > 25, SuanZaoRen 12, > > BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, > > YuJin 6, and Shi Chang Pu 3. > > > > I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the > > most efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness > > and awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of > > Chana's problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing > > accompanying symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, > > paradoxically increasing the tremor and even precipitating seizures. > > Yet the beautifully effective Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), > > left her acting like a zombie, which was unacceptable. By marrying > > together the best of both worlds, I look forward to revitalizing our > > marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in deep love, and lots of > > giving. > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > chihealing <medicwoman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > > Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM > > Re: Renshen and Seizures > > > > Yehuda, > > Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully > > prevent your wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time > > you posted it. My Mom is now have seizures and I would like a lead > > on developing a formula that would help to prevent them. Thank you > > and God Bless....... ......... .Betty > > > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda > > frischman <@.. .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or > > undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past > > 4-5 month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of > > factors that I will relate to you when I have time--just not now. > > What I would like to relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I > > have written for you have generally included TaiZiShen, which she > > was doing very well with. However, because she was doing so well, I > > thought that I would give a 6g dose of RenShen a shot because of its > > cognicence enhancement properties. Unfortunately, for the first time > > in months, her spasms increased, she had incontinence, and last > > night a seizure. > > > > > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of > > interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hi Anne, See below for comments:  ________________________________ Anne Biris <lotuskarma Chinese Medicine Tue, November 24, 2009 5:12:39 AM Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart drugs  Hi Yehuda, My son is now 12 years old. Two days after he was born he had severe hypoglycemia - 22. How did a newborn get hypoglycemia? (Is hypoglycemia 22 a genetic condition that predisposes newborns to hypoglycemia?) It was then when he started having seizures - petit mal. He was prescribed phenobarbitol but there was no difference in the number of seizures. With the help of another doctor we were able to ween him off of it and that is when he started coming to life. Literally he was a vegetable for the first year and a half. Once we started weening him off his seizures decreased until he wasn't having any. That lasted for about a year and a half. He started seizures again and this time they were grand mal that would last for 20 minutes. These occured only when he had a fever and he was diagnosed with febrile seizures. The doctor thought that he might outgrow them. At that time they were occurring once every few months. For the past 6 years now he has been having them frequently. Sometimes once a week and other times 3 to 4 times per week. And they are grand mals each time. I now have Diastat to give him when he goes past 5 minutes and that brings him out of it within seconds. He is on 125 mg of Lamictal two times a day and clonazipam half a tablet once a day. He is still having seizures. I don't know that it is making any difference. What I do know is that he is not groggy like he was on Topomax and Trileptol. And the Keppra gave him a rash. We were supposed to give him a higher dose of Lamictal but that seemed to make his seizures worse. And the Clonazapam makes him really irritable. Half a tablet seems to be ok. But still the number of seizures hasn't seemed to change. I haven't noticed any noticible side effects yet from the Lamictal. What did your wife experience on it? She had a severe Steven's Johnson reaction to Lamictal, her mouth started to peel open. It was quite frightening. She had previously had slight reactions (rashes) to Tegretol, Dilantin, diamox  and depakote, but nothing like this!  Neurontin caused her to gain weight, become constipated and feel tired all the time, but did nothing to prevent seizures. Have you tried it?  His neurologist suggested the Vagus Nerve Stimulator implant as we seem to have run out of options with meds. Anne, you haven't mentioned Chinese medicine. Have you attempted to give your son Herbal medicine? What do MRIs, CT Scans and PT Scans show? I have tried over the years to find patterns. It took me awhile to detach myself a little emotionally so as to be able to see my son objectively. I tell you though, it still breaks my heart to watch him each time. And as he is getting older he is able to tell me when one is coming on. Much of the difficulty with getting a thorough differential diagnosis has been that my son is mentally handicapped as well and is not able to tell me details about how he is feeling. If I were to present to you some things that I have noticed would you possibly be able to help me come up with a thorough differential diagnosis? I often think that more minds other than my own are better when it comes to my son. I would be honored to help in any way that I can. Where do you live, BTW? Did your wife try the ketogenic diet? His doctor suggested it and I am worried about the health complications from changing his metabolism so drastically. The Ketogenic diet, to the best of my recollection has only shown to be helpful in cases of pediatric epilepsy with Petit Mal seizures. We tried it anyway, and it made no difference. I would agree with you that it is a very imbalanced diet, and I would not consider it unless I first considered that he had other metabolic imbalances besides the seizures.  And yet, on second thought, remember what seemed to start this all--hypoglycemia--usually related to higher than normal intake of carbs, no? Looking forward to hearing more.   On Nov 20, 2009, at 3:49 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > Hi Anne, > > Again, I believe that there are two keys: 1. Pathogenesis and 2. > Differential diagnosis of patterns. Has the lamictal been helpful in > preventing seizures? Have you noticed any side effects at all? Eli > Lilly was famous for saying that there is no prescription drug that > does not have side effects. It is here that smart drugs and Chinese > herbs can be helpful--treating the side effects. Essentially the > same way that in cancer treatments, we can use acupuncture and > Chinese medicine to prevent the side effects of chemo. > > Anyway, I would really emphasize that you approach needs to be > focused, and not just grasp for straws in treating his seizure > disorder. Though it is very hard, it is incredibly important that > you view you son the way that you would treat your patients--with > focus and love, like a detective, a translator and a tour guide-- > making sense of the clues and messages that his body gives you. > > One more thought I want to share with you. Judaism teaches that > before G-d creates any illness, he first creates its remedy, its > antidote. SO DON'T LET YOURSELF GET DOWN! Keep persevering. Again, > stay focused. And yes, evaluate your steps and pray for guidance. > > Don't be afraid! > > If I can help in any way, let me know. > > Good luck, >   > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Anne Biris <lotuskarma (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > " Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine " <Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine > > > Thu, November 19, 2009 8:40:39 AM > Re: Chinese medicine, Ren shen, Seizures, and smart > drugs > > Yehuda. Your perseverance and love is an inspiration. My son had > reactions to Keppra, Topomax and now he is on Lamictal. So far no > reactions. He is scheduled for the Vagus Nerve Stimulation implant. > We'll see if that makes a difference. I tried Chinese herbs with him > but they seemed to get worse and acupuncture is difficult as he is > overly sensitive. We tried hyperbaric chamber etc.... I'm sure > anything I say is not news to you. Just wanted to let you know that > your posts help to shed some light on something that at times seem > there is no end. > > Thank you, > > Anne Biris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:32 AM, > > wrote: > > > Dear Nam, Betty and all, > > > > First of all I must emphasize that we should never treat seizures or > > epilepsy, per se, but rather determine the patterns to establish a > > differential diagnosis, and trace the contributing factors involved > > in the pathogenesis. In our journey, there were many clues as well > > as many dead ends. If a had $100 for the many suggestions that were > > given, and approaches suggested, I would be a rich man. In the 9 > > years between 1990 and 1999, we traveled to " experts " around the > > city, the country and world, seeing over 200 practitioners, Western, > > Eastern, alternative and conventional, attempting to resolve her > > seizure disorder. I began formally studying and > > CranioSacral therapy in 2000. > > > > Well, in a very different way, I am now very rich, but certainly not > > in material sense. When my wife Chana had her first seizure back in > > Feb 1990, we owned in a lovely 6 bedroom 5 bath house in LosAngeles, > > and I had a flourishing business. We lost our house in 1996 and now > > rent in a 2 bedroom apartment. But the learning that life as well as > > formal education has taught me has made me a much wealthier man than > > I could ever have imagined. But I digress. > > > > First let me tell you Chana's patterns, as they have developed. > > Originally, back 10 years ago or so, she had a combination of > > replete and vacuous heat. The trouble was that nourishing the empty > > heat engendered stagnation and phlegm, both visible and invisible > > and yet " reducing " the excess heat, created Qi and Yin vacuity, and > > stirred up liver wind. Now, after nearly 20 years, the replete fire > > is considerably reduced, and her state is much more one of emptiness > > and deficiency, primarily of the Kidney and Lung. Phlegm from > > deficiency (as is mentioned in Clavey's text on body fluids and well > > as the new Bensky formula book), is still prevalent as well as > > hyperactivity in the liver engendering wind. As would be expected, > > particularly with a woman, there is blood xu component with > > accompanying yin xu. > > > > Before I share with you my formula, though, I want to reflect upon > > my journey, and the conclusion I have come to as to why would she > > start to have seizures, particularly after MRIs, EEGs, CT scans, PT > > scans, and lumbar punctures all came back being either negative or > > non-conclusive. > > > > Years before we met, Chana gave birth to her first child. At the > > time, she and her first husband lived in an apartment with loud > > neighbors who played the TV day and night, and paper thin walls. > > After giving birth, she was not allowed to rest or sleep, and > > developed post-partum depression. Her ex-husband, in his great > > wisdom, had her admitted to a psychiatric hospital where she > > received a series of ECT. I don't know if any of you have seen grand > > mal seizures or electric shock treatment, but they look identical. I > > am absolutely convinced that the electricity from the ECT left an > > imprint on Chana's nervous system, which each month would build up > > into an explosion as a seizure--until 3-4 months ago. Chinese > > medicine, nutriceuticals and Craniosacral therapy have all been > > helpful in reducing many of her symptoms: Sleep is good, she is no > > longer constipated, she no longer has frequent urination, her speech > > is clearer, and her skin is soft and > > unwrinkled, much like a woman 25 years younger than she is. Yet, we > > could not stop the seizures--until we found Levetiracetam. (Keppra). > > Keppra is a derivative of the nootropic (smart drug) Piracetam, > > which raises IQ, promotes concentration, and has a mild anti- > > convulsive effect. Piracetam works by stimulating the production of > > acetylcholine. Oh, one other thing: Chana has not able to tolerate > > any Western drugs, nearly dying from a reaction to Lamictal (an > > anticonvulsant) . After the most recent procedure, the lumbar > > puncture, (done to test for the presence of latent bacteria, virus > > or fungus in the CS fluid-negative) , our neurologist suggested > > giving Keppra a try, as it is virtually without side effects. For > > the first time, I was intrigued, knowing that it came from > > Piracetam. Well low and behold, for the first time in 20 years, > > Chana went over 35 days without a seizure. As a matter of fact, she > > went 67 days! Unfortunately, there were 3 > > undesirable side effects: Significant asthenia (generalized muscle > > weakness), a slowing of reactions, and reduced appetite. There was > > no question that it was worth it, but I was determined to find ways > > to mitigate the symptoms. And, thank G-d, I think that I have > > succeeded. First of all, along with Levetiracetam, she is now taking > > 3g of Piracetam. Second despite the seizures being pretty much under > > control, her muscle spasms and motion tremor had not improved. I > > therefore added yet another nootropic, Picamilon, a drug developed > > in Russia, 50 years ago, which molecularly combines GABA and Niacin, > > to cross the blood-brain barrier. And now the tremors and spasms are > > becoming less and less almost each day. As I alluded to, since we > > started the current protocol, she has had 2 seizures: one occurred > > the night after YomKippur- Chana felt so good, that unbeknownst to > > me, she decided to fast on YomKippur. The other one occurred when I > > decided to give > > RenShen a shot, switching from TaiZiShen. The first night after, she > > had her first incident of incontinence in months. I didn't get it. > > The next day her tremors increased. 'Still didn't get it. The next > > night she was drenched in sweat. And finally on night 3 she had the > > seizure. When I switched to the current formula, all the problems > > stopped. > > > > Here is the formula: > > > > FuShen 12, Shu Di Huang 21, Nu ZhenZi 12, GouQiZi 15, BaiShaoYao 21, > > Mai Men Dong 24, > > Dang Gui 9, Zhi Gan Cao 12, GouTeng 15, Tian Ma 9, Mu Li 25, Long Gu > > 25, SuanZaoRen 12, > > BaiZiRen 12, ShanZhuYu 9, ShanYao 12, Tai ZiShen 30, Dan Shen 9, > > YuJin 6, and Shi Chang Pu 3. > > > > I believe that we need to consider all options and determine the > > most efficacious and wholistic approach we can, with open-mindedness > > and awareness. Chinese medicine was not able to resolve the root of > > Chana's problem, but it has been amazingly helpful in addressing > > accompanying symptoms. Acupuncture exacerbated her symptoms, > > paradoxically increasing the tremor and even precipitating seizures. > > Yet the beautifully effective Western drug Levetiracetam (Keppra), > > left her acting like a zombie, which was unacceptable. By marrying > > together the best of both worlds, I look forward to revitalizing our > > marriage of nearly 31 years, one rooted in deep love, and lots of > > giving. > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > chihealing <medicwoman@ gmail. com> > > > > Sat, November 14, 2009 3:22:59 PM > > Re: Renshen and Seizures > > > > Yehuda, > > Would you please give us the formula you used to successfully > > prevent your wife's seizures? I must have missed it the first time > > you posted it. My Mom is now have seizures and I would like a lead > > on developing a formula that would help to prevent them. Thank you > > and God Bless....... ......... .Betty > > > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda > > frischman <@.. .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > As many of you are aware of, my wife has had a seizure disorder or > > undetermined etiology for nearly 20 years. Thank G-d, over the past > > 4-5 month, she has basically been seizure free due to a number of > > factors that I will relate to you when I have time--just not now. > > What I would like to relate, anecdotally, is that the formulas I > > have written for you have generally included TaiZiShen, which she > > was doing very well with. However, because she was doing so well, I > > thought that I would give a 6g dose of RenShen a shot because of its > > cognicence enhancement properties. Unfortunately, for the first time > > in months, her spasms increased, she had incontinence, and last > > night a seizure. > > > > > > I will relate more later. 'Thought that you would find this of > > interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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