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Karen

 

Use Ba Gua Fa....a combination of both Gua Sha and empty suction cupping.

 

For the cupping you'll need small curved cups applied top the forearms and

hands.

 

For Gua Sha use sharpened stone which affords a greater directed force than

horn or plastic to breakdown the thickened superficial fascia.

 

Between these two modalities the excessive tensions and counter-tensions

in the fascia along with other stagnation can be released alleviating the

contractions.

 

The focused application of Ba Gua Fa is extremely efficacious in releasing

thickened fascia.

 

Follow and apply to all channels in the forearms and hands - even to the

elbows if needed.

Clear the channels and release the fascia and you will have results.

 

Adjunctively use TCM formula(s).

 

Richard.

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/27/2009 7:20:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

turusachan writes:

 

 

 

 

Hi all - a friend of mine was asking if acupuncture would help him with

Dupuytren's Disease. (see

_http://arthritis.http://arthttp://arthrithttp://arthrithttp://a_

(http://arthritis.webmd.com/tc/dupuytrens-disease-topic-overview) for general

information) for general information)<WBR>. It's a bit

like trigger finger, but doesn't release, and involves a thickening of the

fascia. He has it in his hands, and it's starting in his feet. He's having

trouble using his hands, and since he's always been a builder as well as a

writer, this can be a problem. I think he's about 65; I haven't seen him as a

patient, so don't h

 

He wants to avoid surgery, which seems to be one of those 'if nothing else

works we'll try this and hope for the best' solutions. I haven't found

anything; maybe you have some thoughts?

tx

Karen

 

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Hi all - a friend of mine was asking if acupuncture would help him with

Dupuytren's Disease. (see

http://arthritis.webmd.com/tc/dupuytrens-disease-topic-overview for general

information). It's a bit like trigger finger, but doesn't release, and involves

a thickening of the fascia. He has it in his hands, and it's starting in his

feet. He's having trouble using his hands, and since he's always been a builder

as well as a writer, this can be a problem. I think he's about 65; I haven't

seen him as a patient, so don't have any diagnosis information.

 

He wants to avoid surgery, which seems to be one of those 'if nothing else works

we'll try this and hope for the best' solutions. I haven't found anything;

maybe you have some thoughts?

tx

Karen

 

 

 

 

Karen R. Adams,

Lic Ac, Dipl Ac

25 - 27 Bank Row

Greenfield, MA 01301

413-768-8333

 

 

 

I cannot be more than I am.

I cannot be less than I am.

But I must be all that I am.

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Thanks Jonathan for a more encompassing view of this presentation.

If you noticed I did say that herbal formulas should be addressed according

to the pattern.

 

To clarify - the application of Ba Gua Fa even in clearing channels works

to recitfy part of the imbalance from the outside-in and should be coupled

with materia media from the inside.

 

A physical blockage./compression syndrome can be afforded relief - even if

just adjunctively - with Ba Gua Fa.

 

Richard

 

Richard

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/30/2009 6:55:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jonk2012 writes:

 

 

 

 

Hi All,

 

My understanding of Dupuytren's disease is slightly different then

Richard's. I think that for trigger finger Richard's suggestion would work just

fine, but my understanding of Dupuytren's disease is that it really is a

branch problem.

 

Most of the patients that I have seen with this, develop it first on their

heart meridian, especially around HT 8 for the hands. The people that I

have seen who have it in their feet have had it develop in the Liver meridian

around the top of their feet (around LV 4).

 

From a Western standpoint (so I understand), people who develop

Dupuytren's generally also have underlying Liver problems. This might be

because of

too much alcohol causing sclerosis of the Liver, or due to a cystic Liver,

or a fatty liver. Worse yet, these Liver conditions still might be a branch

issue. Lately, two of my patients with this have found out that they have

hemochromatosis. This is a disorder which stops the body from breaking down

the iron in the body, so patients end up with too much iron in their blood.

This can then cause Liver problems, joint pain, and further down the line

Dupuytren's.

 

I would recommend that your friend ask for a blood test for

hemochromatosis (a relatively rare genetic disease), and also have Liver

screens to see

if his Liver is functioning fine. If these two root issues are not involved,

then do as Richard says and treat the channels and collaterals in the

forearm. But if it is a Liver or blood problem you will have to treat the root

in order to resolve this.

 

I have two family members who have this, and we have all done research

(all of us are in medicine), and the hemochromatosis was a screen that no one

had thought to get, but once one person had it, we were able to trace it up

the family tree, several generations. Interesting to say the least.

 

Sincerely,

 

L.Ac.

The Database

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi All,

 

My understanding of Dupuytren's disease is slightly different then Richard's. I

think that for trigger finger Richard's suggestion would work just fine, but my

understanding of Dupuytren's disease is that it really is a branch problem.

 

Most of the patients that I have seen with this, develop it first on their heart

meridian, especially around HT 8 for the hands. The people that I have seen who

have it in their feet have had it develop in the Liver meridian around the top

of their feet (around LV 4).

 

From a Western standpoint (so I understand), people who develop Dupuytren's

generally also have underlying Liver problems. This might be because of too

much alcohol causing sclerosis of the Liver, or due to a cystic Liver, or a

fatty liver. Worse yet, these Liver conditions still might be a branch issue.

Lately, two of my patients with this have found out that they have

hemochromatosis. This is a disorder which stops the body from breaking down the

iron in the body, so patients end up with too much iron in their blood. This

can then cause Liver problems, joint pain, and further down the line

Dupuytren's.

 

I would recommend that your friend ask for a blood test for hemochromatosis (a

relatively rare genetic disease), and also have Liver screens to see if his

Liver is functioning fine. If these two root issues are not involved, then do

as Richard says and treat the channels and collaterals in the forearm. But if

it is a Liver or blood problem you will have to treat the root in order to

resolve this.

 

I have two family members who have this, and we have all done research (all of

us are in medicine), and the hemochromatosis was a screen that no one had

thought to get, but once one person had it, we were able to trace it up the

family tree, several generations. Interesting to say the least.

 

Sincerely,

 

L.Ac.

The Database

 

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Dear Jonathan.

 

Beyond our needle, that I'd suggest to everyone,

please consider this relatively new treatment of

Dupuytren's Disease. This American surgeon applies

a needle technique invented by a French Doctor.

 

http://www.plasticsurgerysf.com/scrapbook/

 

Ciao,

 

Stefano Marcelli

 

 

Chinese Medicine

[Chinese Medicine

om] On Behalf Of Chinese Medicine

Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:48 AM

Chinese Medicine

Re: Dupuytren's Disease

 

 

Hi All,

 

My understanding of Dupuytren's disease is

slightly different then Richard's. I think that

for trigger finger Richard's suggestion would work

just fine, but my understanding of Dupuytren's

disease is that it really is a branch problem.

 

Most of the patients that I have seen with this,

develop it first on their heart meridian,

especially around HT 8 for the hands. The people

that I have seen who have it in their feet have

had it develop in the Liver meridian around the

top of their feet (around LV 4).

 

From a Western standpoint (so I understand),

people who develop Dupuytren's generally also have

underlying Liver problems. This might be because

of too much alcohol causing sclerosis of the

Liver, or due to a cystic Liver, or a fatty liver.

Worse yet, these Liver conditions still might be a

branch issue. Lately, two of my patients with this

have found out that they have hemochromatosis.

This is a disorder which stops the body from

breaking down the iron in the body, so patients

end up with too much iron in their blood. This can

then cause Liver problems, joint pain, and further

down the line Dupuytren's.

 

I would recommend that your friend ask for a blood

test for hemochromatosis (a relatively rare

genetic disease), and also have Liver screens to

see if his Liver is functioning fine. If these two

root issues are not involved, then do as Richard

says and treat the channels and collaterals in the

forearm. But if it is a Liver or blood problem you

will have to treat the root in order to resolve

this.

 

I have two family members who have this, and we

have all done research (all of us are in

medicine), and the hemochromatosis was a screen

that no one had thought to get, but once one

person had it, we were able to trace it up the

family tree, several generations. Interesting to

say the least.

 

Sincerely,

 

L.Ac.

The Database

 

Contact me if you would like to know more about

our $1,000 debt repayment drawing on August 15,

2010. Please direct all inquiries to

webmaster

 

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Hi Jonathan

I would be interested in knowing more about the Dupuytren's/iron overload question. I came to a suspicion about that connection independently and have been trying to find more information about it--at least others with the same suspicion. My husband has D, has had some high iron readings (transferrin sat and serum) and I have been trying to get him to donate blood on a regular basis. He is dubious and resistant to the bleeding schedule. Without high ferritin (which he never reached, but won't now because of donating) a regular doctor will never suspect H. I'm considering the take home DNA swab from, I think, Michigan State U.

 

Cori H

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