Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 The concept of Qi was different at the time. This whole emitting idea arose much later-I would even say it's modern. There is no mention of emitting qi in any of the classics. I would not go far as to say it absolutely didn't exist, just that there is zero evidence of its existence. Just because something is done today in China does not mean it was done a couple of thousand years ago...that's a bit of a strange argument. Chinese Medicine , " znelms " <znelms wrote: > > There is actually a fairly modern account of stone needles being used for insertion in the book " Fourth Uncle in the Mountain, " but whose to say that ancient doctors didn't do there fair share of Emitting Qi through stones too? > I know for a fact, emitting qi through stones like jade and carnelian is done today in China so why not in ancient times? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I am no expert in the matter, but some might argue that the mere act of using intention when inserting or manipulating a needle is emitting qi. Besides, I doubt very much that any of us has read all of the classics or have understood all that was read, these are necessary requirements to determine that " There is no mention of emitting qi in any of the classics. " > The concept of Qi was different at the time. This whole emitting idea arose much later-I would even say it's modern. There is no mention of emitting qi in any of the classics. I would not go far as to say it absolutely didn't exist, just that there is zero evidence of its existence. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 John Bedini has shown that quartz, iron pyrite (fool's gold) and other rocks have the property of being " negative resistors. " They seem to be drawing " electrons " from the vaccuum, or zero point field. Or " orgone, " the mass free substratum from which particles arise on the subatomic level. I don't know that the concept of " qi " was any different back in ancient times. The concept of the " luminiferous aether " wasn't too different from our concept of qi. - " " <saudelligabriele <Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:17 AM R: Re: Emitting Qi? If the " emitting Qi " could be inside the stone needle? Jade is a quartz, you know that this mineral has electric proprties (piezoelectric, where " piezo " derives from ancient greek " push (in) " , " press (in) " .) Maybe that this Qi could be a not well yet known kind of electric energy. What do you think about? _____ Da: Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine Per conto di znelms Inviato: lunedì 28 settembre 2009 16.55 A: Chinese Medicine Oggetto: Re: Emitting Qi? I am no expert in the matter, but some might argue that the mere act of using intention when inserting or manipulating a needle is emitting qi. Besides, I doubt very much that any of us has read all of the classics or have understood all that was read, these are necessary requirements to determine that " There is no mention of emitting qi in any of the classics. " > The concept of Qi was different at the time. This whole emitting idea arose much later-I would even say it's modern. There is no mention of emitting qi in any of the classics. I would not go far as to say it absolutely didn't exist, just that there is zero evidence of its existence. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Chinese Medicine , " " <saudelligabriele wrote: > Besides, I doubt very much that any of us has read all of the classics or have understood all that was read, these are necessary requirements to determine that " There is no mention of emitting qi in any of the classics. " Clearly, not everyone has read all of the classics, but to suggest there aren't people here who have read at least the foundational books from the Han is not realistic. If I am wrong, perhaps I am asking this on the wrong list. As I said, it's impossible to prove it's not there but there is no evidence. Instead of providing me with some, you just restated what I had already said: one person can't do it, which is why I was looking for help. I much prefer that people show me where this concept is. I'm not being facetious here...if such a text exists, I would love to read it. If such a term can be found, I would love to know about it. So far, people have brought some nice modern ideas to explain how the idea might have existed, but so far no Chinese terms or texts, just conjecture. What I do find is Ling Shu Chapter One where the use of the 9 needles is explained clearly. Even if I try to stretch what it says, I can't come up with the idea of emitting qi. Puncturing and cutting are there, as is " massage " with the flat stone to smooth out/extend the qi, but no where is the physician said to use any of those probes to emit qi into or onto the patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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