help with lotion

[Guest guest]

I am adding 8 ml oil to 8 oz of lotion.

Thank you for any help.

JanIn a message dated 12/25/2005 6:18:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Elizabeth writes:

 

 

On Dec 25, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Oaklandplants wrote:

 

> Can I make the lotion a bit thicker if I use more shea butter in

> it? Now I

> use about 8 ml each of shea butter, jojoba oil and lavender

> essential oil

> to 8 oz of the lotion.

 

How much Lavender essential oil are you adding to an 8 oz lotion?

 

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr or Ms. " Stuff " , or Tam or HTH or all of you,

Thank you for your suggestions. I'll try that. I think I can work out the

percentages and you are right, I should think about knowing the % of each

thing.

What can I do about being sure I have the right amount of emulsifying agent

and what are emulsifying aents?

 

I'll check out the web site.

 

In a message dated 12/25/2005 5:00:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,

stuff7321 writes:

 

Hi Jan,

 

Generally, yes increasing the amount of oil or butter would require that you

reduce the amount of liquid to keep your 8 oz. batch size. So that would

make your lotion thicker.

 

You're also probably also going to need to adjust the amount of emulsifying

agent you're using. If you can turn the amounts of the recipe you're using

in your 8 oz. batch into percentages, then you can make a really small test

batch so that you aren't wasting too much product while you figure out what

consistency you like. Then you can make a 1/2 oz. or a 1 oz. size test batch.

The other benefit to doing this is that once you create a lotion you love,

you can also scale the recipe to any size you like. So if you want to make 4

oz. or 80 oz. of this lotion, you can. It will be the exact same consistency

every time because you're using percentages.

 

Its really hard to say exactly how much to use of any ingredient; it really

does depend on what your lotion to feel like. Maybe this site will help:

http://www.soapnuts.com/lothelp2.html. If you'd like help converting amounts

into percentages, I'd be glad to help when I get back from vacation on the

3rd if you email me privately. HTH, Tam

Oaklandplants wrote:

I put together a lotion I buy from 'Barclay's Lab in 'Redding California.

I

put into it Lavender oil, jojoba oil and shea butter. Here is the questin:

 

Can I make the lotion a bit thicker if I use more shea butter in it? Now

I

use about 8 ml each of shea butter, jojoba oil and lavender essential oil

to 8 oz of the lotion.

Thank you for any suggestions.

I'm putting the shea butter and jojoba oil into the lotion to try to give

it

more moisturizing effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jan,

 

Generally, yes increasing the amount of oil or butter would require that you

reduce the amount of liquid to keep your 8 oz. batch size. So that would make

your lotion thicker.

 

You're also probably also going to need to adjust the amount of emulsifying

agent you're using. If you can turn the amounts of the recipe you're using in

your 8 oz. batch into percentages, then you can make a really small test batch

so that you aren't wasting too much product while you figure out what

consistency you like. Then you can make a 1/2 oz. or a 1 oz. size test batch.

The other benefit to doing this is that once you create a lotion you love, you

can also scale the recipe to any size you like. So if you want to make 4 oz. or

80 oz. of this lotion, you can. It will be the exact same consistency every

time because you're using percentages.

 

Its really hard to say exactly how much to use of any ingredient; it really

does depend on what your lotion to feel like. Maybe this site will help:

http://www.soapnuts.com/lothelp2.html. If you'd like help converting amounts

into percentages, I'd be glad to help when I get back from vacation on the 3rd

if you email me privately. HTH, Tam

Oaklandplants wrote:

I put together a lotion I buy from 'Barclay's Lab in 'Redding California. I

put into it Lavender oil, jojoba oil and shea butter. Here is the questin:

 

Can I make the lotion a bit thicker if I use more shea butter in it? Now I

use about 8 ml each of shea butter, jojoba oil and lavender essential oil

to 8 oz of the lotion.

Thank you for any suggestions.

I'm putting the shea butter and jojoba oil into the lotion to try to give it

more moisturizing effect.

Jan

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Dec 25, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Oaklandplants wrote:

 

> Can I make the lotion a bit thicker  if I use more shea butter in 

> it?  Now I

> use  about 8 ml each of shea butter, jojoba oil and  lavender

> essential oil

> to 8 oz of the lotion. 

 

How much Lavender essential oil are you adding to an 8 oz lotion?

 

Elizabeth

 

Whole Life Essentials

Organic & Wild-Crafted Essential Oils & Hydrosols

Pure Botanical Products for Health, Wellbeing, & Beauty

Retail, Wholesale, Private Label, & Custom Product Design

http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

Oaklandplants wrote:

 

Dear Mr or Ms. " Stuff " , or Tam or HTH or all of you,

Thank you for your suggestions. I'll try that. I think I can work out the

percentages and you are right, I should think about knowing the % of each

thing.

What can I do about being sure I have the right amount of emulsifying agent

and what are emulsifying aents?

 

I'll check out the web site.

 

In a message dated 12/25/2005 5:00:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,

stuff7321 writes:

 

 

Hi Jan,

 

Usually the ratio for lotions is 2/3 water to 1/3 oil/butter. You want to use

between 5-10% emulsifying wax. The higher the percentage of emulsifying wax you

use, the stiffer your lotion will be. So maybe start with 5% of your total,

and slowly increase the percentage until you get this stiffness you want.

 

Merry Christmas! Tam

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Dec 25, 2005, at 10:30 AM, Oaklandplants wrote:

 

> I am adding 8 ml oil to 8 oz of lotion. 

> Thank you for any help.

 

Hi Jan,

 

8 ml of essential oils (Lavender in this case) added to 8 oz of lotion

is really far too much for a body lotion.

You probably want to add about 1/2 that amount- or even less. 1/2 the

amount would still be very highly concentrated and fragrant. I would

use 2-4 ml max, or by the drop 5-10 drops per oz lotion. Start with 5

drops per ounce and increase if you like with 10 as a max. Hth,

 

 

Best wishes,

Elizabeth

 

Whole Life Essentials

Organic & Wild-Crafted Essential Oils & Hydrosols

Pure Botanical Products for Health, Wellbeing, & Beauty

Retail, Wholesale, Private Label, & Custom Product Design

http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

HTH = Hope That Helps

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I used to have super powers but my therapist took them away

 

 

Dear Mr or Ms. " Stuff " , or Tam or HTH or all of you,

Thank you for your suggestions. I'll try that. I think I can work out the

percentages and you are right, I should think about knowing the % of each

thing.

What can I do about being sure I have the right amount of emulsifying agent

and what are emulsifying aents?

 

I'll check out the web site.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Elizabeth, I like the larger amount of the essential oil although it

does use a bunch of my own precious oil. Is there a problem with using that

much? I use the same amount in my bubble bath too. The shea butter: I want

to increase this to make it thiker fro putting the lotion in the cream jars

so it is not so liquidey. I hope I can rember to use the hth abbreviation.

So good to get the input from the experts.

 

Jan

 

In a message dated 12/25/2005 10:54:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Elizabeth writes:

 

 

On Dec 25, 2005, at 10:30 AM, Oaklandplants wrote:

 

> I am adding 8 ml oil to 8 oz of lotion.

> Thank you for any help.

 

Hi Jan,

 

8 ml of essential oils (Lavender in this case) added to 8 oz of lotion

is really far too much for a body lotion.

You probably want to add about 1/2 that amount- or even less. 1/2 the

amount would still be very highly concentrated and fragrant. I would

use 2-4 ml max, or by the drop 5-10 drops per oz lotion. Start with 5

drops per ounce and increase if you like with 10 as a max. Hth,

 

 

Best wishes,

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/26/2005 4:08:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,

WoobeyQueen writes:

 

Hey Jan

 

That's one ml of Lavender per ounce of lotion... OUCH!

 

 

 

DEAR KATHLEEN,

1 ML / OZ = 1 ML /28ML X 100 = 3.5%

Unless my arithametic is way off. It could be.

I am not selling it but the worse cas is what I am doing--giving the lotion

and bubble bath away.

THANK YOU FOR THE WARNING!

I'll cut back and tell my freinds that they should be careful with what I

have given them or better, to give it back. I haven't given many lituin but

bubble bth is the big hit. I realize that that is safer than lotion.

 

 

You are risking causing your customers to incurr allergies and skin rashes.

Before selling items (or even just giving them) that contain EO's to the

public, you need to be more acquainted with the oils themselves. a 5%

dilution is usally recommended as maximum with creams, lotions, soaps etc.

in some cases the recommendations is much less, as little as 2.5 % and even

others aren't recommended at all (Clove, Cinammon, Wintergreen, Birch to

name a few).

 

Please be very careful. These oils are very potent little suckers and " Less

is More " is an axiom that certainly applies in this arena.

 

Hope that helps a bit!

 

K

 

On 12/26/05, Oaklandplants <Oaklandplants wrote:--

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

The Woobey Queen

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hey Jan

 

That's one ml of Lavender per ounce of lotion... OUCH!

 

You are risking causing your customers to incurr allergies and skin rashes.

Before selling items (or even just giving them) that contain EO's to the

public, you need to be more acquainted with the oils themselves. a 5%

dilution is usally recommended as maximum with creams, lotions, soaps etc.

in some cases the recommendations is much less, as little as 2.5 % and even

others aren't recommended at all (Clove, Cinammon, Wintergreen, Birch to

name a few).

 

Please be very careful. These oils are very potent little suckers and " Less

is More " is an axiom that certainly applies in this arena.

 

Hope that helps a bit!

 

K

 

On 12/26/05, Oaklandplants <Oaklandplants wrote:--

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

The Woobey Queen

Http://www.woobeyworld.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

" That's one ml of Lavender per ounce of lotion... OUCH! "

 

Just to do the math, there are 30 ml in each ounce. So 1 ml per ounce is a

3.3% dilution.

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