Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Hello! I have in my collection two samples of rose absolute (centifolia) from the same company. One is an orangy color, one is a olive-yellow color. This company claims GC testing and is considered reputable. Does anyone know what may account for the color difference? Thanks! Michelle H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 It may have to do with the type of roses used. There are from what I've gleaned many types of roses... Ie it may be centifolia, but it may be a different color rose that it came from, As with anything in nature, color can vary from petal to petal or plant to plant. If you are concerned you could have it tested (I think) it may cost a lot, but if you are that concerned you should do what you feel is right... Jennifer On Behalf Of Michelle Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:56 AM Rose abs color Hello! I have in my collection two samples of rose absolute (centifolia) from the same company. One is an orangy color, one is a olive-yellow color. This company claims GC testing and is considered reputable. Does anyone know what may account for the color difference? Thanks! Michelle H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Rose absolute has a color the otto or steam distilled essential oil is clear. I also have a Rose (centifolia) CO2 that has no color. Colors vary. The orange colors you describe are typical of damascena absolutes. With a Rose absolute you will really need to dilute in alcohol or in oil to fully appreciate what you have. I would not be concerned any more than with anything as long as you have a good and reputable source. I have many Rose absolutes and their colors vary. Enjoy! Elizabeth Whole Life Essentials Organic & Wild-Crafted Essential Oils & Hydrosols Pure Botanical Products for Health, Wellbeing, & Beauty Retail, Wholesale, Private Label, & Custom Product Design http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 On Dec 13, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Michelle wrote: > Hello! > > I have in my collection two samples of rose absolute (centifolia) > from the same company. > One is an orangy color, one is a olive-yellow color. This company > claims GC testing and is > considered reputable. Does anyone know what may account for the > color difference? > > Thanks! > Michelle H. > I must be reading this thread backwards. Were these both centifolia- not damascena? Both supposed to be the same oil? Same type of extraction? Elizabeth Whole Life Essentials Organic & Wild-Crafted Essential Oils & Hydrosols Pure Botanical Products for Health, Wellbeing, & Beauty Retail, Wholesale, Private Label, & Custom Product Design http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 , Elizabeth@W... wrote: > > Rose absolute has a color the otto or steam distilled essential oil is > clear. I also have a Rose (centifolia) CO2 that has no color. Ooo. Rose CO2 is another item for my wish list How would you say the odor compares to the distilled oil and absolute? Thanks:) Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 , Elizabeth@W... wrote: > > > On Dec 13, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Michelle wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > I have in my collection two samples of rose absolute (centifolia) > > from the same company. > > One is an orangy color, one is a olive-yellow color. This company > > claims GC testing and is > > considered reputable. Does anyone know what may account for the > > color difference? > > > > Thanks! > > Michelle H. > > > > I must be reading this thread backwards. > Were these both centifolia- not damascena? Both supposed to be the same > oil? Same type of extraction? > Elizabeth yes, both centifolia...the older one is actually the orangy color, the newer sample is much lighter, olive-yellow. both are solvent extracted. thanks, Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Michelle said: yes, both centifolia...the older one is actually the orangy color, the newer sample is much lighter, olive-yellow. both are solvent extracted. thanks, Michelle Michelle, do you know the country of origin for both? There is a rose oil that comes out of Morocco which is solvent extracted to produce the concrete, followed by distillation (hydro, I think) . . . Often dried flowers are used. It is sometimes quite pale in color and considered somewhat inferior by perfumers. I don't know if we could call this an otto because of both processes. I have a sample and it is quite a bit paler in color than a good Rose de Mai absolute. The odor is definitely rose and nicely sweet, but not as heady as our Bulgarian otto and dryout is quite disappointing. Absolutely no comparison to the Rose de Mai. Be well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane, http://www.wingedseed.com/katrina.htm " First of all, cultivate a contented spirit; a garden is a good place to begin. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 , " Marcia Elston " <samara@w...> wrote: > > Michelle said: > yes, both centifolia...the older one is actually the orangy color, > the newer sample is much > lighter, olive-yellow. both are solvent extracted. > thanks, > Michelle > > > > Michelle, do you know the country of origin for both? There is a rose oil > that comes out of Morocco which is solvent extracted to produce the > concrete, followed by distillation (hydro, I think) . . . Often dried > flowers are used. It is sometimes quite pale in color and considered > somewhat inferior by perfumers. I don't know if we could call this an otto > because of both processes. I have a sample and it is quite a bit paler in > color than a good Rose de Mai absolute. The odor is definitely rose and > nicely sweet, but not as heady as our Bulgarian otto and dryout is quite > disappointing. Absolutely no comparison to the Rose de Mai. > > Be well, > Marcia Elston, Samara Botane, http://www.wingedseed.com/katrina.htm > " First of all, cultivate a contented spirit; a garden is a good place to > begin. " > Hi Marcia, Both are from Morocco, and the company says they are solvent extracted. But I wonder if one of them was by the method you described? Interesting, thanks for the info! Take care, Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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