Liver and Gall Bladder Flushing

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I have personally done many liver/gallbladder flushes...done them properly and

they DO work. It is amazing to see the various hard colored " stones " that I had

not been able to remove any other way. I have removed hundreds of " stones " that

way. Most of them very hard and full of cholesterol. I used similar cleanes to

Dr. Hulda clark. I will try the Phos 30 next time instead of the epsom salts

since I hate that taste...but the cleanses DO work.

 

Diana of Dewberry Hill

 

 

 

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" Diana of Dewberry Hill " <cozad76078

 

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:08 AM

Re: Liver and Gall Bladder Flushing

 

 

>

> I have personally done many liver/gallbladder flushes...done them properly

> and they DO work. It is amazing to see the various hard colored " stones "

> that I had not been able to remove any other way. I have removed hundreds

> of " stones " that way. Most of them very hard and full of cholesterol. I

> used similar cleanes to Dr. Hulda clark. I will try the Phos 30 next time

> instead of the epsom salts since I hate that taste...but the cleanses DO

> work.

>

> Diana of Dewberry Hill

>

>

>

> DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less

>

>

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Hey y'all,

 

Below is something Martin sent me some time ago.

 

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between claims such as those in the subject

line .. and claims of certain EO (the carvacrol in Oregano for example)

kicking a multitude of Big Bad Bug Butts .. that difference is loads

of independent research where the outcome(s) were positive results ..

and such studies have been documented in medical journals and other

credible publications .. I have sent dozens of such studies to this list.

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

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All of these so called " gall bladder flush " remedies are based on poorly

documented anecdotal reports. As far as I am aware there has never

been a properly controlled study done on the subject.

 

There are many issues involved:

 

1. Without careful abdominal ultrasound scans one cannot be certain if a

problem is due to gallstones.

 

2. Without scans before a flush and afterwards one cannot know if stones

were there and if they have passed.

 

3. Many other conditions can mimic the pain caused by gallstones, some

are self correcting others are serious. If someone has been told they

have gallstones and after a quack treatment they no longer have symptoms

of course they believe it is due to the treatment rather than them not

having gallstones in the first place. That is what most of these

reports are based on.

 

4. It is a physical impossibility to get vegetable oils into the

gallbladder. The gallbladder is there to produce bile to emulsify oils

and fats in the gut. Therefore, one cannot possibly " flush it " by that

mechanism. Anyone who says otherwise has not trained on any kind of

reputable complementary medicine course.

 

5. I find it it just mind blowing that anyone can claim they have passed

a gallstone without any pain. When one knows how tiny the common bile

duct is and with that lousy piece of S bend plumbing, it is just beyond

me how a stone can pass along that tube without someone

knowing about it. In any case, unless someone routinely sieves their

feces how the heck do they know what they have passed?

 

As a qualified medical herbalist I am well aware of those herbs with a

reputation for dispersing gallstones. However, any herbalist worthy of

that name will tell you such treatments are long term. Anyone who claims

overnight effects is a dangerous quack. Herbs and diet are great for

relieving some symptoms, but to cure the problem short term - no way.

 

Somebody wrote:

> Even people with no gallbladder still pass stones from the liver.

 

Having just had a through scan of my own liver I can tell you there are

no cavities or ducts in it where stones could possibly form. Anyone who

makes such statements clearly knows nothing about physiology or anatomy.

 

Beware of claims on web sites aimed at gathering clients for quack

therapists.

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

 

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Re: Gallstones - new information

 

The Angel centre claims:

http://www.angelhealingcenter.com/GallstonePictures

 

For those who really believe the information on the above web site and

this idea about 'gallstone flushes' please visit the page below written

by a real expert and scroll down to his item on gallstones. Great to

see I am not the only one saying these treatments are quack medicine.

http://www.pathguy.com/altermed.htm

 

I think Katherine covered it all on gallstones in her excellent mail on

this subject, nothing to add to that.

 

Comments on other things on the Angel centre and other web sites:

 

Colonic treatments and others claiming to " detoxify the liver " are

hogwash with no basis other than people say they feel better afterwards.

Give me a box of chocolates and I get the same feeling without the

need to detoxify my liver or have a colonic afterwards.

 

With herbs you can support liver function and force it to operate a bit

more efficiently, but the liver " detoxifies " itself perfectly well

unless one has severe disease. The only real use for colonics is if

someone is badly constipated, otherwise a waste of money. None of their

theories on detoxification of a normal persons body stand up to close

scrutiny.

 

Their claims about parasitic gut worms are way out of date and based on

times past when malnourishment was rife. It is now believed from

research that having gut worms (if one is not already malnourished) are

a positive *advantage*. The worms seem to work in a symbiotic manner to

control allergic over-reactions of the body, in other words they try to

make themselves comfy with a good food source while not harming their

host -clever creatures. Investigations are currently under way to

determine which types of gut worms are most advantageous and how best to

administer them. Some people are now taking worm cysts as medication to

control severe gut disorders and other symptoms which no other treatment

has cured.

 

If people want to waste money by throwing it at scammers fine, that's

their freedom of choice. Just be sure they know what they are talking

about and will not cause more harm than good.

 

Martin Watt