AS we grow older and dark cicles around the eyes

[Guest guest]

I dont know if anyone else has noticed this in personally, but I have

noticed that as I grow older, my eyes get dark circles around them...

Besides makeup and yucky chemicals that the make up companies use for this

sort of thing, does any one else have any ideas for this?

 

I dont think it is liver/kidney related since I often take dandelion root

tincture. I feel it has really shown up as I have grown older.

Blessings,

Kristerae

[Guest guest]

Fresh sliced cucumbers over the eyes for 30mins -1hour does it for me

 

-Sarah

 

 

 

At 09:20 AM 12/5/2005, you wrote:

 

>I dont know if anyone else has noticed this in personally, but I have

>noticed that as I grow older, my eyes get dark circles around them...

>Besides makeup and yucky chemicals that the make up companies use for this

>sort of thing, does any one else have any ideas for this?

>

>I dont think it is liver/kidney related since I often take dandelion root

>tincture. I feel it has really shown up as I have grown older.

>Blessings,

>Kristerae

[Guest guest]

,

I have noticed several changes on my skin and under my eyes also. I

have been told through the years that dark circles under the eyes is a

liver sign and can't help believe that One of the main causes at least

for me is the liver. about a year after my daughter was killed I

noticed almost over night it seemed that these liver spots were all

over. I always swore I would never get those with my healthy way of

life. but hmmm maybe grief has a role in the depletion of oxygen and

toxins in my liver.

I had accomplished doing two liver flushes and each time I am amazed

at the results and the small changes I have noticed, for one the liver

spots have started to disappear. My N.D. that I go to tells me she has

her clients do liver flushes twice a year unless there is a cancer

involved then it is every month. I feel it won't hurt any way to

cleanse my old liver. I have abused it a " little "

charli

[Guest guest]

Ok i MUST ask, what is a liver flush and how is it done?

 

serenity7art <walknjoy wrote: ,

I have noticed several changes on my skin and under my eyes also. I

have been told through the years that dark circles under the eyes is a

liver sign and can't help believe that One of the main

[Guest guest]

what do you do to clease your liver?

 

-Sarah

 

 

 

 

At 12:46 PM 12/5/2005, you wrote:

 

> ,

>I have noticed several changes on my skin and under my eyes also. I

>have been told through the years that dark circles under the eyes is a

>liver sign and can't help believe that One of the main causes at least

>for me is the liver. about a year after my daughter was killed I

>noticed almost over night it seemed that these liver spots were all

>over. I always swore I would never get those with my healthy way of

>life. but hmmm maybe grief has a role in the depletion of oxygen and

>toxins in my liver.

>I had accomplished doing two liver flushes and each time I am amazed

>at the results and the small changes I have noticed, for one the liver

>spots have started to disappear. My N.D. that I go to tells me she has

>her clients do liver flushes twice a year unless there is a cancer

>involved then it is every month. I feel it won't hurt any way to

>cleanse my old liver. I have abused it a " little "

>charli

[Guest guest]

,

 

Sarah, I Used Hulda Clarke flush just because it seemed to work

without to much fuss and this is the one my N.D. recommended. I start

at 2:30 in the afternoon and end it the next morning it sounds worse

than it really is. I was amazed at all the stones that came out

without any pain. The first time I did it I got a lot of cholestrol

crystals out and the second some penny size gall stones.The olive oil

was actaully not bad with the grapefruit. I am going to do another

one this week sometime. Here is the info I found to send to you on

it. This may sound gross, but I am a true believer I want all of this

garbage out of me. YOu can email if you have any questions not that I

am an authority at all. Just a person that has been interested in

health for 32 years. Let me know if you decide to do it. I love to

hear about it. charli

http://www.asktom-naturally.com/cleanse.html

http://www.drhuldaclark.org/therapy_liver.asp

 

>

>

>

> At 12:46 PM 12/5/2005, you wrote:

> http://www.asktom-naturally.com/cleanse.html

> > ,

> >I have noticed several changes on my skin and under my eyes also. I

> >have been told through the years that dark circles under the eyes

is a

> >liver sign and can't help believe that One of the main causes at

least

> >for me is the liver. about a year after my daughter was killed I

> >noticed almost over night it seemed that these liver spots were all

> >over. I always swore I would never get those with my healthy way of

> >life. but hmmm maybe grief has a role in the depletion of oxygen

and

> >toxins in my liver.

> >I had accomplished doing two liver flushes and each time I am

amazed

> >at the results and the small changes I have noticed, for one the

liver

> >spots have started to disappear. My N.D. that I go to tells me she

has

> >her clients do liver flushes twice a year unless there is a cancer

> >involved then it is every month. I feel it won't hurt any way to

> >cleanse my old liver. I have abused it a " little "

> >charli

>

[Guest guest]

Dark circles can be from a number of easily-remedied sources:

Lack of sleep -- well, get a good night's rest -- for a week or more.

No disturbances while you sleep, no radio, pets jumping around, etc. 8

hours, for one week. See if that helps.

 

Lack of B vitamins. I like Source of Life multis. If it's the B

deficiency, you'll see a normal color return in under an hour.

 

Kidney problems. Dark circles accompanied by swelling, usually.

Nothing to do with liver, liver herbs won't help.

 

Staining from eye makeup. So simple, so obvious, it's often

overlooked. There's a model on Tv, in her 40's, who often talks about

how she's permanently stained her eyelids and undereye area by not

removing the stuff completely over the years.

 

Heredity, thinning skin. Our skin does thin under our eyes with age.

Ask your derm about some new creams for this. My undereye area looks

slightly darker as the skin has thinned and sunk in a bit, so light

gets reflected differently. Cover Girl TruBlend powder foundation and

others have new light-reflecting molecules in it that really help

lighten the area.

 

Hate to say this to a believer, but Hulda Clark has been debunked as a

real quack. Just do a google. No way you could pass stones without

tremendous, horrific pain. No way. Also, it takes a long, long time,

with diet and herbs to help 'cleanse' the liver.

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Jan Jenson <vizual

 

It DOES mean you need to do a liver/kidney flush

AND you're dehydrated

and probably NOT breathing right!

 

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AS we grow older and dark cicles around the eyes

 

I dont know if anyone else has noticed this in personally, but I have

noticed that as I grow older, my eyes get dark circles around them...

Besides makeup and yucky chemicals that the make up companies use for this

sort of thing, does any one else have any ideas for this?

 

I dont think it is liver/kidney related since I often take dandelion root

tincture. I feel it has really shown up as I have grown older.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

actually You can't really say there is no way until you have tried it

yourself which I have had and did get the results I have stated and

know quiet a few others with the same results. Chemically when you use

the epsom salt water it opens your valve and there is no pain and yes

there would be pain if it was closed. Hulda Clarke is a little over

the edge on somethings but if you read her studies with an open mind

you will see that she is right on with some things as all of us are. I

have had googled and read the articles but I also looked up the source

which it came from. when ever you find someone that is getting

results you always find someone else trying to say something bad. I am

new to toiletries but not to healing and diet. I choose to be humble.

and not judge. Isn't this group here to share?

[Guest guest]

, " serenity7art " <walknjoy@c...>

wrote:

>

> actually You can't really say there is no way until you have tried it

> yourself which I have had and did get the results I have stated and

> know quiet a few others with the same results.

 

Sorry you skipped over all the lowkey, easy-to-fix recommendations I

made for the dark cicles and got defensive on the liver flush I

debunk. I always choose the gentle path first, not believing in the

need to purge as a cure-all.

 

Chemically when you use

> the epsom salt water it opens your valve and there is no pain and yes

> there would be pain if it was closed.

 

No, it doesn't. The valve is very tiny. Stays tiny, no matter what.

You doctor can explain this to you, if you ask.

 

Hulda Clarke is a little over

> the edge on somethings but if you read her studies with an open mind

> you will see that she is right on with some things as all of us are.

 

I didn't comment on any of her other assertions, only the liver flush.

I didn't comment on her jail time, convictions, etc. That is public

record.

 

I

> have had googled and read the articles but I also looked up the source

> which it came from. when ever you find someone that is getting

> results you always find someone else trying to say something bad.

 

I haven't found that, but maybe you and I are looking at it

differently. If Butch gets good results with oregano oil, passes the

info on, and we all do, I remember that. If someone had a bad

experience, I would remember that, too, but it hasn't happened (except

some hopping and screeching experiences if someone used it " straight " ,

LOL.)

 

I am

> new to toiletries but not to healing and diet. I choose to be humble.

> and not judge. Isn't this group here to share?

 

Heck, I'm so humble and trying to hide my age, I won't tell everyone

how long I've been studying the healing arts (OK, longer than the list

mom has been alive ;-) I thought I was sharing, sorry you focused on

the one bit you felt challenged *your* belief system. That said, it

won't hold me back from sharing my experiences in the future, and it

shouldn't hold you back, either. Hope the OP takes the gentler methods

I recommended first, like B vitamins, heck, even the cucumber someone

else recommended -- those little cool pads can really help.

 

PS. Hulda Clark, unlicensed naturaopath, *was* judged. And found

guilty. one citation:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html

 

IMHO, she's in the same league as Gary Young, fake ND, radical

methods, etc.

 

Just sharing.

 

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[Guest guest]

At 06:17 PM 12/5/2005, you wrote:

>I dont know if anyone else has noticed this in personally, but I have

>noticed that as I grow older, my eyes get dark circles around them...

>Besides makeup and yucky chemicals that the make up companies use for this

>sort of thing, does any one else have any ideas for this?

 

 

Helichrysum italicuum!

 

A friend discovered this one... she was using heli in rose hip seed oil on

a surgical scar...and started dotting the excess under her eyes. She

always had very dark circles... and they started fading...

 

of course, be very careful using ANY essential oil near the eyes, and

dilute the heli appropriately in the carrier oil of your choice.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Aha. Quackwatch.

 

I must admit that I have never gotten

up the gumption to do a cleanse.

I tried once, and made it till about 2 PM.

Me and Food go way back. ....

Not to mention that the thought of

having to skip my coffee is ground for an

instant anxiety attack.

 

But.

The idea of cleansing makes total sense.

The fact that a healer gets arrested and judged

has absolutely no bearing on the merits of her

methods.

And the organization " QuackWatch " is not

exactly an objective bunch of reporters.

 

For the other side, pay a visit to

http://www.quackpotwatch.org/

 

Meanwhile, I will try some Helichrysum on

my dark circles!

 

And I hope nobody feels offended at a

friendly exchange of differing opinions.

 

Ien in the Kootenays

***************************

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Tell me more about liver flushing. I have had dark circles seems like forever.

 

 

 

-

serenity7art

I have noticed several changes on my skin and under my eyes also. I

have been told through the years that dark circles under the eyes is a

liver sign and can't help believe that One of the main causes at least

for me is the liver. about a year after my daughter was killed I

noticed almost over night it seemed that these liver spots were all

over. I always swore I would never get those with my healthy way of

life. but hmmm maybe grief has a role in the depletion of oxygen and

toxins in my liver.

I had accomplished doing two liver flushes and each time I am amazed

at the results and the small changes I have noticed, for one the liver

spots have started to disappear.