Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 COURSE they are! I'm answering an note I just sent forward to the list. The respondant thought that soap recipes might not be appropriate to send to the list and I want to assure her and everyone else that of COURSE they are! Remember the name of the list... Oils... Herbs... ETC. That means anything from cake recipes to soap recipes to ETC recipes. Anything holistic, alternative, health and even family chat.... However I don't think I'll bring me fantasy football chat here... that's taking things a bit too far! Besides, I lost last week and am very bitter! ROFLMAO! Oh Jokes are also always welcomed... sometimes it's the only laugh some of us bitter sore losers get for the day. ;-) So what's NOT appropriate? That's easier... Anything that will stir up trouble, such as political discussions, flame notes and the like. Also no advertising except on Thursdays. Zat help? So post those soap recipes, plenty of folk who are interested (including myself who bought Lye three years ago but chickend out! ROFLMAO! ) Can't use that Lye now, I think I read that it goes off. -- Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Kathleen unless the lye gets wet you can still use you three year old lye. Jula Graber Girl By Julia Julia Graber Cregger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Really? Cool! Now all I have to do is to grow the brass cajones to use the stuff! ROFLMAO! K On 9/18/05, grabergirlbyjulia <grabergirlbyjulia wrote: > > Kathleen unless the lye gets wet you can still use you three year old lye. > > Jula > > Graber Girl By Julia > Julia Graber Cregger > > > -- > Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > The Woobey Queen > Http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 If the lye is closed so air/moisture can get to it, I would think it is still good. If it isn't good it will not mix with the water and heat up. Zo > myself who bought Lye three years ago but chickend out! ROFLMAO! ) Can't > use > that Lye now, I think I read that it goes off. > -- > Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > The Woobey Queen > Http://www.woobeyworld.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 You really don't have to have brass ones to do soap. Just always remember to mix vinegar and water and have it sitting in case you get it on you. It neutralized lye instantly. Then you can dip the bowl and spoon that you use to mix the lye up in, in the vinegar solution and then it is ready to put in the dishwasher. If you have ever stripped the paint or finish off a piece of furniture you have used lye. Zo - " Woobey Queen " <WoobeyQueen Sunday, September 18, 2005 1:04 PM Re: Soap recipes not appropriate? > Really? Cool! Now all I have to do is to grow the brass cajones to use the > stuff! ROFLMAO! > K > > On 9/18/05, grabergirlbyjulia > <grabergirlbyjulia > wrote: >> >> Kathleen unless the lye gets wet you can still use you three year old >> lye. >> >> Jula >> >> Graber Girl By Julia >> Julia Graber Cregger >> >> >> -- >> Cheers! >> Kathleen Petrides >> The Woobey Queen >> Http://www.woobeyworld.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 AND she is here! YEAH Zo! Sharon , " Zonella Gould " <zonella@t...> wrote: > You really don't have to have brass ones to do soap. Just always remember > to mix vinegar and water and have it sitting in case you get it on you. It > neutralized lye instantly. Then you can dip the bowl and spoon that you use > to mix the lye up in, in the vinegar solution and then it is ready to put in > the dishwasher. If you have ever stripped the paint or finish off a piece > of furniture you have used lye. > Zo > - > " Woobey Queen " <WoobeyQueen@g...> > > Sunday, September 18, 2005 1:04 PM > Re: Soap recipes not appropriate? > > > > Really? Cool! Now all I have to do is to grow the brass cajones to use the > > stuff! ROFLMAO! > > K > > > > On 9/18/05, grabergirlbyjulia@d... > > <grabergirlbyjulia@d...> > > wrote: > >> > >> Kathleen unless the lye gets wet you can still use you three year old > >> lye. > >> > >> Jula > >> > >> Graber Girl By Julia > >> Julia Graber Cregger > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers! > >> Kathleen Petrides > >> The Woobey Queen > >> Http://www.woobeyworld.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I asked one of the profs (has a strong chemistry background and worked with lye in his early career) about this once. He said that lye MUST be kept airtight and that exposure even to the air (which obviously contains moisture) for brief periods slooooowly degrades the lye. I am certain this must be true since I had some very old lye and realized the oil/lye ratio did not seem to be correct. I also keep in mind that scientist are very anal . . . everything must be the same for every experiment, etc. -Helen > myself who bought Lye three years ago but chickend out! ROFLMAO! ) Can't > use > that Lye now, I think I read that it goes off. > -- > Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Vinegar and water... that's GOOD to know. I may put the soap thing off until January when I put the super inquistive 4 year old to-be in pre-school. He's too hands on for that kind of stuff. This is a small one who has to be in EVERYTHING, from hoovering, to mowing the lawn, to making candles (thank GOODNESS he has finally stopped eating my finished goods!) to baking. Scares me spitless to think of making soap while he's around. K On 9/18/05, Zonella Gould <zonella wrote: > > You really don't have to have brass ones to do soap. Just always remember > to mix vinegar and water and have it sitting in case you get it on you. > -- > Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > The Woobey Queen > Http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Also if it has been wet, the lye will look different. Some particles may look shiney. Others will clump together. Don't use that. Julia Graber Girl By Julia Julia Graber Cregger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I believe and I have not read all the posts. Lye, chemically is sodium hydroxide and is hydroscopic (absorbs water from the atmosphere) . It collects water but it does not lose its alkalinity which is what you want but the weight would change so you would not know how much to use. I doubt that there is much acid in the air to neutralize it. I read a some of the threads and have not found anyone to agree with me that it is O.K. but you don't know how much water is in it. You'd have to dry it out and that is a bit risky. I have not really made soap and but I am sure the ratio of lye to oil is critical. Jan Young In a message dated 9/18/2005 11:37:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, worth249 writes: I asked one of the profs (has a strong chemistry background and worked with lye in his early career) about this once. He said that lye MUST be kept airtight and that exposure even to the air (which obviously contains moisture) for brief periods slooooowly degrades the lye. I am certain this must be true since I had some very old lye and realized the oil/lye ratio did not seem to be correct. I also keep in mind that scientist are very anal . . . everything must be the same for every experiment, etc. -Helen is hydroscopic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 > So post those soap recipes, plenty of folk who are interested (including > myself who bought Lye three years ago but chickend out! ROFLMAO! ) Can't use > that Lye now, I think I read that it goes off. > -- > Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > The Woobey Queen > Http://www.woobeyworld.com Kathleen: What do you mean lye goes off??????? Is this for sure?????? Darn it all I am like you, I have everything but I am a total chicken to making soap. I can not get past the math....waaaaaaa!!!!! Lye goes off..waaaaaaa!!! Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 > What do you mean lye goes off??????? > Is this for sure?????? > Darn it all I am like you, I have everything but I am a total chicken > to making soap. > I can not get past the math....waaaaaaa!!!!! Lye goes off..waaaaaaa!!! > Barbara Barbara, I know I'm not Woobey, but I will answer your questions the best I can. Lye can go off, if you allow it to get moisture in it. As long as the bottle has been tightly capped, you can use the lye pretty well anytime. It will stay good for years. As far as the math goes....try a good online lye calculator. I really like the one at www.the-sage.com Here's the direct link to the calc. http://www.the-sage.com/calcs/lyecalc2.php Simply follow the directions on the screen, and it will calculate the exact amount of lye you need by weight to make your soap. If you have any questions about your formula, give me a shout, and I will do my best to explain anything you need. My very first soapmaking experience was wonderful. I had read the Miller Soap site, and had all of my stuff up and ready to go. I quickly learned that you NEVER mix lye water in a plastic container! LOL It ate the plastic something terrible. Always use stainless steel or glass to mix your lye water. I didn't wear gloves, or eye protection. (Bad Candy! Bad, Bad, Bad!) But I didn't have any trouble. I did keep a bottle of vinegar handy, just in case of any splashes or spills. No problem. Soap was good. Wasn't as moisturizing as I'd hoped, but I learned quickly what oils/butters I prefer, and how they work in my soaps. Come on....try it! You'll really enjoy it. And if not, you can always sell all your supplies to one of us addicted soapers. LOL Best of luck to you! Candy -- Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release 9/23/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 I have 3 Rubbermaid pitchers that are only used for mixing my lye water in. Been using the same ones for 3 years now and they are still in great shape. You can use plastic but it has to be a good strong plastic. My first molds were cardboard boxes. I make almost all my soap in the mold, in the oven and had no problems with the cardboard in the oven. The oven is set at 175*-200* - not hot enough to cause the cardboard to catch fire and burn. Now that I have some wooden molds that DH made me, I always line the mold with half of a tall kitchen trash bag. The oven isn't hot enough to cause any melting so I can use each 'liner' a few times before it has to be replaced. Paula .......... in Michigan I used to have super powers but my therapist took them away My very first soapmaking experience was wonderful. I had read the Miller Soap site, and had all of my stuff up and ready to go. I quickly learned that you NEVER mix lye water in a plastic container! LOL It ate the plastic something terrible. Always use stainless steel or glass to mix your lye water. I didn't wear gloves, or eye protection. (Bad Candy! Bad, Bad, Bad!) But I didn't have any trouble. I did keep a bottle of vinegar handy, just in case of any splashes or spills. No problem. Soap was good. Wasn't as moisturizing as I'd hoped, but I learned quickly what oils/butters I prefer, and how they work in my soaps. Come on....try it! You'll really enjoy it. And if not, you can always sell all your supplies to one of us addicted soapers. LOL Best of luck to you! Candy -- Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release 9/23/2005 The information contained in these e-mails is not a substitute for diagnosis and treatment by a qualified, licensed professional. Step By Step Instructions For Making Herbal Labna Cheese! So easy, SO yummy! http://www.aromaticsage.com/cz.htm To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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