Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 I'm sure that most folks here - no matter where in the world you are, have heard about and seen the catastrophic disaster that is going on right now in the Central Gulf Coast of the US because of hurricane Katrina. A lot of people have lost their lives, their homes, their towns and cities even. Parts of Mississippi have been leveled to rubble. The city of New Orleans, the 34th largest city in the US, is over 80% flooded and the ENTIRE city is being evacuated because it is completely unlivable and will only get worse in the coming days with raw sewage everywhere and bodies floating in the streets. There is no power, no food, no clean water, just devastation - and HOT weather. Current estimates range from 1-3 months clean up time. In some places they will never recover fully. Many people will be without power or drinkable water for weeks. Many people will be without homes for much longer than that. Many people who were unable to evacuate before the storm, due to not having a way out (no car, no relatives, etc), or the money to get out, or just plain ol' didn't get out, took refuge in the Superdome sports stadium, which sustained damage in the storm and that is flooded now too. Those are being transported here to Houston - to the Astrodome, which is an old sports stadium that has been converted into a Red Cross shelter in the wake of this disaster. These unfortunate displaced people will be here for a while (possibly a big understatement). Many more people who have no place to go and are desperately trying to get out of New Orleans and other ravaged areas will no doubt end up here in Houston and other areas in the region, who all welcome them with open arms. The company my husband works for is setting up a goods donation which will be happening this week and all items donated will be going into a truck that day and driven directly to the Astrodome. Soap is a big item on the list of needs, so we're going to be donating a big box of soap to the folks. I know a lot of folks are wondering what they can do to help. The Salvation Army and Red Cross are actively on the job. Salvation Army <http://www.redshield.org/crisis> (1-800-SAL-ARMY) or the Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org/> (1-800-HELPNOW) Also, here is a link to the official list from FEMA of organizations and things folks can do to help. http://www.fema.gov/press/2005/resources_katrina.shtm Hurricane season is about to hit its peak in September, and won't be over until November. Put out those prayers to whomever you put prayers out to that the remainder of the seasons is quiet (even though it looks like another one is brewing in the Atlantic as I type this) Truly another one of those reminders to count your blessings, appreciate all you have (like water to drink) and most importantly appreciate those you love. *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Chris, Do you know where we can send donatable items? I have some clothes I've been meaning to donate and also some blankets that I stocked up on during a recent sale (did you know you can get fleece blankets real cheap during an August heat wave ; )). I also have some soap I can send. I looked on the websites you linked to below but they only had how to give cash ... unless they really only want cash and not goods?? lmk ~Bonnie - " Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:17 PM OT: Katrina Disaster Relief I'm sure that most folks here - no matter where in the world you are, have heard about and seen the catastrophic disaster that is going on right now in the Central Gulf Coast of the US because of hurricane Katrina. A lot of people have lost their lives, their homes, their towns and cities even. Parts of Mississippi have been leveled to rubble. The city of New Orleans, the 34th largest city in the US, is over 80% flooded and the ENTIRE city is being evacuated because it is completely unlivable and will only get worse in the coming days with raw sewage everywhere and bodies floating in the streets. There is no power, no food, no clean water, just devastation - and HOT weather. Current estimates range from 1-3 months clean up time. In some places they will never recover fully. Many people will be without power or drinkable water for weeks. Many people will be without homes for much longer than that. Many people who were unable to evacuate before the storm, due to not having a way out (no car, no relatives, etc), or the money to get out, or just plain ol' didn't get out, took refuge in the Superdome sports stadium, which sustained damage in the storm and that is flooded now too. Those are being transported here to Houston - to the Astrodome, which is an old sports stadium that has been converted into a Red Cross shelter in the wake of this disaster. These unfortunate displaced people will be here for a while (possibly a big understatement). Many more people who have no place to go and are desperately trying to get out of New Orleans and other ravaged areas will no doubt end up here in Houston and other areas in the region, who all welcome them with open arms. The company my husband works for is setting up a goods donation which will be happening this week and all items donated will be going into a truck that day and driven directly to the Astrodome. Soap is a big item on the list of needs, so we're going to be donating a big box of soap to the folks. I know a lot of folks are wondering what they can do to help. The Salvation Army and Red Cross are actively on the job. Salvation Army <http://www.redshield.org/crisis> (1-800-SAL-ARMY) or the Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org/> (1-800-HELPNOW) Also, here is a link to the official list from FEMA of organizations and things folks can do to help. http://www.fema.gov/press/2005/resources_katrina.shtm Hurricane season is about to hit its peak in September, and won't be over until November. Put out those prayers to whomever you put prayers out to that the remainder of the seasons is quiet (even though it looks like another one is brewing in the Atlantic as I type this) Truly another one of those reminders to count your blessings, appreciate all you have (like water to drink) and most importantly appreciate those you love. *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but unless they specifically ask for donated items such as clothing, please do not send. The reason is that the agencies have no where to store these items and they have to rent a place to store them or they end up burning them. I've worked many disasters and I know that's what they do. What any relief agency needs is money. That way, folks can be given vouchers to purchase exactly what they need. Donated items have to be sorted and manpower is not available to do this in a disaster. If you want to donate these items, please give them to your local goodwill or salvation army thrift store. I have worked seven disasters (I do work in state emergency management) and unless there is a call for items such as these, please do not send them and burden the system more than it is now. After the last few hurricanes, clothing and other items were being burned as they came in because the manpower to process them was astronomical. Thank you for caring and wanting to help, but even $5.00 to the red cross would go a long way. Vickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hi Bonnie, This link will give you some info on organizations that are accepting goods (and what goods) as well as those only accepting cash. http://www.click2houston.com/news/4915332/detail.html *Smile* Chris http://www.alittleolfactory.com On Behalf Of Bonnie Walker Chris, Do you know where we can send donatable items? I have some clothes I've been meaning to donate and also some blankets that I stocked up on during a recent sale (did you know you can get fleece blankets real cheap during an August heat wave ; )). I also have some soap I can send. I looked on the websites you linked to below but they only had how to give cash ... unless they really only want cash and not goods?? lmk ~Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Thanks for posting this info for folks Vickie! I just put up a local Houston area link where there are places listed that will take some actual goods, but in general it is prudent for folks to make sure that good can be sent before they are just sent cause in some cases its more of a burden than a help if the organizations are not equipped to deal with them. And you are SO right - even $5.00 can make a difference! *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com On Behalf Of Vickie Durham I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but unless they specifically ask for donated items such as clothing, please do not send. The reason is that the agencies have no where to store these items and they have to rent a place to store them or they end up burning them. I've worked many disasters and I know that's what they do. What any relief agency needs is money. That way, folks can be given vouchers to purchase exactly what they need. Donated items have to be sorted and manpower is not available to do this in a disaster. If you want to donate these items, please give them to your local goodwill or salvation army thrift store. I have worked seven disasters (I do work in state emergency management) and unless there is a call for items such as these, please do not send them and burden the system more than it is now. After the last few hurricanes, clothing and other items were being burned as they came in because the manpower to process them was astronomical. Thank you for caring and wanting to help, but even $5.00 to the red cross would go a long way. Vickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Chris, you're absolutely right. Houston will probably be able to use things, but I dare say it would not be economically feasible to send things through the mail for the simple reason the USPS, FedEx, and UPS have said that their costs will be going up and deliveries will take even longer than usual. If someone is near Houston, then it is wise to wait a little while and see if they want donated iteems. I''m sure they will since they will have 25,000 people arriving with not much more than the shirts on the backs. Vickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hi Christine, After H Andrew struck So Florida the Homestead Military Base (although itself badly damaged) it was used as a site upon which temporary housing was set. Thousands of tents were made available, provisions for water and food were flown in from around the country via the Red Cross. The staging of medical attention, distribution of supplies was then orderly and well organized. Dosen't North Eastern Louisana have a huge military base. Don't they have more than one? The news reports indicate that thousands will be bused, 8 hr drives to other states, namely Texas. To the Houston Astro Dome. It seems the intention is to situate people in the Astro Dome and convention centers? The actions being taken do not seem logical. Why wouldn't the state use existing Military bases. Most of the soldiers are in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 My understanding is that it's all under water as well. And electricity is scarce if not nonexistent. The best thing to do is to get those people away from the water. Steph }) www.foxesdensoap.com On Behalf Of Carol Ann Hi Christine, After H Andrew struck So Florida the Homestead Military Base (although itself badly damaged) it was used as a site upon which temporary housing was set. Thousands of tents were made available, provisions for water and food were flown in from around the country via the Red Cross. The staging of medical attention, distribution of supplies was then orderly and well organized. Dosen't North Eastern Louisana have a huge military base. Don't they have more than one? The news reports indicate that thousands will be bused, 8 hr drives to other states, namely Texas. To the Houston Astro Dome. It seems the intention is to situate people in the Astro Dome and convention centers? The actions being taken do not seem logical. Why wouldn't the state use existing Military bases. Most of the soldiers are in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 On 01/09/05, Carol Ann <saffireskyes wrote: > > Hi Christine, > <snip> > Dosen't North Eastern Louisana have a huge military > base. Don't they have more than one? > > The news reports indicate that thousands will be > bused, 8 hr drives to other states, namely Texas. To > the Houston Astro Dome. > > It seems the intention is to situate people in the > Astro Dome and convention centers? > > The actions being taken do not seem logical. > > Why wouldn't the state use existing Military bases. > Most of the soldiers are in Iraq. Hi Carol I'm in UK so not that familiar with the Gulf coast but this may help answer why they are moving people right out of the affected areas. " Michael Leavitt, secretary of Health and Human Services, announced that he > had declared a public health emergency in the area stretching from Louisiana > to Florida. " We are gravely concerned about the potential for cholera, > typhoid and dehydrating diseases that could come as a result of the stagnant > water and the conditions, " he said. " We are dealing with one of the worst natural disasters in our nation's history, " Bush said. " This recovery will take a long time. This recovery will take years. " See http://tinyurl.com/7qjfn for full article. I'm watching US and UK news coverage on this horrendous disaster and from what I'm seeing (second hand and from a distance, granted) it is possible the bases you refer to no longer exist? HTH - and thinking of you all in US at this very sad time for your nation. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 So much is damaged or destroyed in the region, including some military bases: http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=3785792 <http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=3785792 & nav=5D7lBwNh> & nav=5D7lBwNh http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3783950 <http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3783950 & nav=23iidvJk> & nav=23iidvJk The whole region is a gigantic mess with rubble everywhere, massive flooding, no power, etc ... Here are 2 satellite pics from NASA to see just what happened to New Orleans: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/natural_hazards_v2.php3? img_id=13095 http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/natural_hazards_v2.php3? img_id=13094 This storm appears to have more damage than any other hurricane, ever! *Sigh* Chris (list mom) http://www.click2houston.com/news/4915332/detail.html http://www.alittleolfactory.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Behalf Of Carol Ann Hi Christine, After H Andrew struck So Florida the Homestead Military Base (although itself badly damaged) it was used as a site upon which temporary housing was set. Thousands of tents were made available, provisions for water and food were flown in from around the country via the Red Cross. The staging of medical attention, distribution of supplies was then orderly and well organized. Dosen't North Eastern Louisana have a huge military base. Don't they have more than one? The news reports indicate that thousands will be bused, 8 hr drives to other states, namely Texas. To the Houston Astro Dome. It seems the intention is to situate people in the Astro Dome and convention centers? The actions being taken do not seem logical. Why wouldn't the state use existing Military bases. Most of the soldiers are in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 > " Michael Leavitt, secretary of Health and Human > Services, announced that he > > had declared a public health emergency in the area > stretching from Louisiana > > to Florida. " We are gravely concerned about the > potential for cholera, > > typhoid and dehydrating diseases that could come > as a result of the stagnant > > water and the conditions, " he said. You have sewage contaminating the water supply, " said Dr. Irwin Redlener, head of Columbia University's National Center for Disaster Preparedness. " You not only have the danger of the sewage itself, the need for water is one of the primary needs that must be fulfilled and people will drink dirty water, if they get thirsty enough. " Even if non-contaminated water can be found to drink, the water flooding homes and streets may pose a significant hazardous material situation. " There's all the chemicals within the city -- from the gasoline storage facilities, storage plants, and of course coffins. We will have a large number of coffins released, " explained Ivor van Heerden, director of the Center for the Study of Public Health Impacts of Hurricanes in Baton Rouge. " This all mixed together in New Orleans is what we term this 'toxic gumbo Best regards, Carol _______________________________ Never Accept Only Two Choices in Life. The problems of Today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them. -Al Einstein. __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Liz, Yes, Katrina = horrendous and Hurricane season continues until the end of October. It looks as if Lake Ponchatrain has reclaimed its natural boundaries. What is so difficult for people to accept is that a historical city such as New Orleans, so rich historically, may no longer be habitable by humans. I read that Thomas Jeffersons home was completely destroyed. What boggles the mind in this day and age is that a whole city may eventually have to be moved further inland. It is a challenge to humanities sense of superiority over the forces of nature. Best regards, Carol --- Liz <liztams wrote: > > " We are dealing with one of the worst natural > disasters in our nation's > history, " Bush said. " This recovery will take a long > time. This recovery > will take years. " > See http://tinyurl.com/7qjfn for full article. > I'm watching US and UK news coverage on this > horrendous disaster and from > what I'm seeing (second hand and from a distance, > granted) it is possible > the bases you refer to no longer exist? > HTH - and thinking of you all in US at this very > sad time for your nation. > Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 It does boggle the mind, however, not the fact that we've done more damage to the face of the earth than we can fix. New Orleans is an unsurmountable loss... but when you're dealing with a city that's built beneath sea level, and only protected by a couple of levees... well... it's easy to understand what happened. I think what we're seeing is something that's pretty natural, only the fact that so many people are so tragically affected makes it so much more terrible. It is very sad to think that so many wonderful things may be destroyed forever. I can only pray, and hope, and help donate to the cause. Best, Kirstin --- Carol Ann <saffireskyes wrote: > > It looks as if Lake Ponchatrain has reclaimed its > natural boundaries. What is so difficult for > people > to accept is that a historical city such as New > Orleans, so rich historically, may no longer be > habitable by humans. I read that Thomas Jeffersons > home was completely destroyed. What boggles the > mind > in this day and age is that a whole city may > eventually have to be moved further inland. It is a > challenge to humanities sense of superiority over > the > forces of nature. > __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 I'd like to add another relief effort and fundraising organization to the pot for listmembers to be aware of and help if they can. Below is a reprint of earlier emails I have been sending out all day. We've raised several thousand already and have serious hope to make a dent in the tragedy somewhere. For Those Who Can Help: Some of you may have heard about Officers of Avalon, Inc., which is a non-profit 501c3 organization incorporated in the state of Florida as a Fraternal Order of Pagan/non-mainstream religion police officers, fire fighters and EMS. Our website is at www.OfficersofAvalon.com . I am one of the founders of OOA, and currently on the Board of Directors. I have spearheaded our charitable fund, which is named Avalon Cares. We raised money for the tsunami victims, and we are presently in full swing to raise alot more for Katrina victims. We need your help. If you'd like to find a Pagan/secular charity that is doing real work, has members out in the field working with the victims directly, and is responsible, this is one. It is receiving the support of a very broad based coalition of Pagan communities, and volunteers from outside the OOA membership to make it bigger and better as a fund raising effort. OOA, Inc is a non-profit, 501c3 organization, incorporated in Florida and includes international membership of Police, Fire and EMS personnel. For the moment, as we work on getting an AC Fund-specific information and contact community up online, you can go to www.OfficersofAvalon.com and donate through the link there for the relief fund. Except for PayPal fees, ALL monies donated to our Relief Fund get distributed. When we get someone with time to donate for website design, we'll be updating the informational site about the Fund and hope to make a major difference for victims beyond our personal service. A donation link is there at OOA and we are presently blitzing our supporters via email and media releases and help is coming in past our expectations. May your people be alive and well. Please help and please feel free to forward this. Mambo Joie Balindjo Chancellor General Officers of Avalon, Inc. Deborah Joie www.OfficersofAvalon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 A pagan charity? Right on! I'll tell my witchy sisters. Ien in the Kootenays **************************** " To treat life as less than a miracle is to give up on it. " ~Wendell Berry Rainforest Miracles: http://wildhealing.net **************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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