Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have over 1000 pounds of a wonderful lotion/crème base that I would like to make paraben free. Can you reheat lotion/crème for a certain amount of time and get rid of the parabens? I understand it will be some serious work, but with everyone clamoring about parabens being bad for you – I thought I’d switch to Optiphen instead. (Can’t wait to hear what they say about it in 3-5 years! LOL!) Any insight or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! God Bless, Tammy Doering The Mud QueenTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 TAMMY! I met you at the Texas Convention a year ago... and then lost your info (I had just moved to texas and my house was in total chaos), I've recently moved to germany and am no longer in business... but I'm interested in your mud... could you send me info? Steph }) Above all else you do in a day, make at least one person smile. www.foxesdensoap.com On Behalf Of Tammy Doering I have over 1000 pounds of a wonderful lotion/crème base that I would like to make paraben free. Can you reheat lotion/crème for a certain amount of time and get rid of the parabens? I understand it will be some serious work, but with everyone clamoring about parabens being bad for you - I thought I'd switch to Optiphen instead. (Can't wait to hear what they say about it in 3-5 years! LOL!) Any insight or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! God Bless, Tammy Doering The Mud QueenTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 I am taking a total stab in the dark on this one, but I don't think you can " unbake a cake. " Heat may evaporate water and kill off biological organisms, but I don't see how it could remove a chemical unless it evaporated with the water so i guess the question is to see if parabens will evaporate with the water. I was unable to find any relevant info after googling a few key phrases, but that's hardly a definitive answer. Although, my guess is still " no -- the parabens are in there for good. " Although, even if you can evaporate the parabens out of the base, doing so may have other undesirable effects on the lotion base. Depending on what ingredients are in there, it could damage the oils. I'm assuming since it's a " base " that it doesn't have any essential oils in it yet, but re-heating would damage essential oils. ================================================== On the other hand, optiphen looks promising. I found this spec sheet on it, so we could probably get some " what they're saying about it NOWs " from this list: http://www.todieforsoap.com/OptiphenPlus.pdf The main ingredients are: Phenoxyethanol (and) Caprylyl Glycol (and) Sorbic Acid and they spec sheet claims they are all derived from natural sources, but then again, Toms of Maine says the same thing about SLS. Anyone care to knock it down? (or prop it up for that matter) ; ) - " Tammy Doering " <MudQueen Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:55 PM Getting rid of parabens I have over 1000 pounds of a wonderful lotion/crème base that I would like to make paraben free. Can you reheat lotion/crème for a certain amount of time and get rid of the parabens? I understand it will be some serious work, but with everyone clamoring about parabens being bad for you - I thought I'd switch to Optiphen instead. (Can't wait to hear what they say about it in 3-5 years! LOL!) Any insight or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! God Bless, Tammy Doering The Mud QueenTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 I am really curious to hear about this! I don't make my own, but have been buying supposedly safe products through a friend's MLM for the last 5 years. The brand shall remain nameless. I love the stuff, not out of fear, just because I like how it works-feels-lasts. The company in question even boasts an OK from the Cancer Prevention Coalition. AND: They still have parabens. I heard a rumor they are working on getting rid of them but for now, the bottle on my counter still has them. I am not going to worry about it, it is just funny to see how one generation's harmless additive turns out to to another bugaboo ten years later. Ien in the Kootenays ******************************* Stop. Breathe. Smile! ~Padma ( my TV yoga teacher) See my smiling face: http://www.greatestnetworker.com/is/ien ******************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 There is no sound evidence that parabens are harmful. All the reports on the net are based on a single piece of lousy research done in a Reading University here in the UK. That report was taken up by the media and spread around the world like wildfire. The fact the report has since been exposed as full of faults has not been so widely reported. One always has to strike a balance with such issues and although parabens are chemicals, I would consider having a product free of harmful organisms is far more important than having products with suspect preserative systems. Incidentally, we do not know the long term effects of some of the natural preservatives either. Martin Watt , " Bonnie Walker " <webgrrl@w...> wrote: > I am taking a total stab in the dark on this one, but I don't think you can " unbake a cake. " Heat may evaporate water and kill off biological organisms, but I don't see how it could remove a chemical unless it evaporated with the water so i guess the question is to see if parabens will evaporate with the water. I was unable to find any relevant info after googling a few key phrases, but that's hardly a definitive answer. Although, my guess is still " no -- the parabens are in there for good. " > > Although, even if you can evaporate the parabens out of the base, doing so may have other undesirable effects on the lotion base. Depending on what ingredients are in there, it could damage the oils. I'm assuming since it's a " base " that it doesn't have any essential oils in it yet, but re-heating would damage essential oils. > > ================================================== > > On the other hand, optiphen looks promising. I found this spec sheet on it, so we could probably get some " what they're saying about it NOWs " from this list: > > http://www.todieforsoap.com/OptiphenPlus.pdf > > The main ingredients are: Phenoxyethanol (and) Caprylyl Glycol (and) Sorbic Acid and they spec sheet claims they are all derived from natural sources, but then again, Toms of Maine says the same thing about SLS. > > Anyone care to knock it down? (or prop it up for that matter) ; ) > > > - > " Tammy Doering " <MudQueen@D...> > > Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:55 PM > Getting rid of parabens > > > I have over 1000 pounds of a wonderful lotion/crème base that I would like > to make paraben free. Can you reheat lotion/crème for a certain amount of > time and get rid of the parabens? I understand it will be some serious work, > but with everyone clamoring about parabens being bad for you - I thought I'd > switch to Optiphen instead. (Can't wait to hear what they say about it in > 3-5 years! LOL!) Any insight or recommendations would be greatly > appreciated! > > God Bless, > > Tammy Doering > > The Mud QueenTM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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