Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 - Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:30 PM Digest Number 2165 There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: August Herb of the Month - EZ Earthfinds <earthfinds 2. Neat Essential Oils, Vibrations, Etc (was Re: Introduction O/T Essential; Oils) " chrisziggy " <chrisziggy 3. Re: OT - vaccines " hanjkyla " <kyleac 4. Re: OT - vaccines " hanjkyla " <kyleac 5. Re: OT - vaccines grabergirlbyjulia 6. Herb of The Week Suggestions? " Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy 7. Re: Re: OT - vaccines Kirstin Key <kirstinkey 8. Re: OT - vaccines " chrisziggy " <chrisziggy 9. Re: Digest Number 2164 Marge Clark <marge 10. Articles By Dr. Incao " Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy 11. Re: Re: OT - vaccines grabergirlbyjulia 12. Re: ******IMPORTANT INFO on IMMUNIZATIONS - Autism, Mercury ... SprtDrmr 13. re enlarged spleen etc. " britplum " <palaurie 14. Re: OT - vaccines " Zonella Gould " <zonella 15. Re: ******IMPORTANT INFO on IMMUNIZATIONS - Autism, Mercury ... Blackkat <blackkat 16. New to the group! " Tammy Doering " <MudQueen 17. Re: OT - vaccines Blackkat <blackkat 18. Re: New to the group! grabergirlbyjulia 19. Welcome New Members ( & Hello Old Friends) " Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy 20. Thimerosal in Vaccines - FAQ - OT " Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy 21. Re: enlarged spleen " Zonella Gould " <zonella 22. Conferences Earthfinds <earthfinds 23. Re: Autism, Mercury and the California Numbers " Lisa Nelson, Head Honcho of An Indigo Rose " <An.Indigo.Rose 24. Re: Neat Essential Oils, Vibrations, Etc (was Re: Introduction O/T Essential; Oils) Joshua Alexander <listservs 25. Re: OT - vaccines Joshua Alexander <listservs ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Earthfinds <earthfinds Re: August Herb of the Month - EZ I love basil too! I have it in the front flower bed, in the herb bed, in an impromptu LARGE area to the right of the house (meaning I didn't plant it there - it migrated!) in the driveway....in the garden..... I can't pick it fast enough! Judy Green Dragon Herbals __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:50:38 -0000 " chrisziggy " <chrisziggy Neat Essential Oils, Vibrations, Etc (was Re: Introduction O/T Essential; Oils) Hi Folks, I still don't have a happy computer, but did pop on and saw parts of the below thread and the discussion about using EO's neat (undiluted) and not diluting them because it'll disturb their natural vibrations, etc ... and I want to tell ya - this is overlooking some vitally important facts, and some folks here might want to seriously rethink that " modus operandi " . First, there are plenty of documented cases of folks becoming sensitized to EO's (including tea tree and lavender). Will it happen to you for sure, not necessarily, but a good analogy is like drunk driving - will you get into a wreck driving drunk? .. Maybe, maybe not. Are there folks who've done it 100 times and gotten home without incident? - SURE! Are there folks who got into a crash and hurt themselves or someone else just the first time they did it? - SURE. Do you raise the odds of getting into an accident by driving drunk even if you've done it " safely " so many times before? - OF COURSE. Same goes for using a potential sensitizing agent undiluted. Why raise the risk when its unnecessary as EO's have been proven as effective, if not even MORE effective when diluted. There are plenty of mediums to dilute oils in also, so you're not just limited to using oily substances ... Now, onto the vibrational stuff ... to make an EO, plant matter is put into a distillation unit and exposed to steam (which as we all know is hotter than boiling water) and through that process the oil soluble matter is separated from the water soluble matter. A pretty intense (and stressful) process. Now, most folks I know agree that boiling vegetables " boils the life out of them " , so I wonder where on earth folks get this precious, delicate " vibrational " thing about something that emerges from the distillation process? Now, don't get me wrong when it comes to my feelings about EO's. I do personally make " spiritual oil blends " and " potions " - and I don't use synthetic oils as I do feel it is important to use the botanical materials rather than synthetic substitutes, and I use EO's in my home for ailments of various types, but I don't put them on a " vibrational " pedestal and decline to dilute them cause I'm concerned that it'll disturb their " vibrational " qualities in some way. If anything was going to affect any innate vibrational qualities of the original botanical matter, undergoing the distillation process to make them would have! Oh, and lastly, the whole thing about Rosemary EO being contraindicated for high blood pressure is hooey - don't get caught up in an unsound, unproven, phony contraindication like that, while ignoring the very real, proven, potential for a problem such as using the oils neat ... *Smile* Chris (list mom - pressed for computer time and can't chat more right now) The New Site Is Coming Soon! http://www.alittleolfactory.com , <snipped statements below> > I do also have a friend who was having problems with > Athlete's Foot and I suggested she use neat tea tree on those > areas.....she did and it cleared up. -- no problems.... > Karen > > Iâ?Tve seen open wounds, scrapes heal quicker with Lavender than with > > anything > > else. Skeptical family members that once ran for topical antibiotics now > > reach > > for Lavender (used neat) before the Band Aids. > > A combination of Tea Tree, Thyme White, Eucalyptus, Lemon, Lavender, > > Citronella, > > applied neat, used patiently, works extraordinarily well for stubborn > > nail > > fungus. > > EOs do have contra indications, i.e. Rosemary, Ylang Ylang, (blood > > pressure) > > I have no problem stating that as a personal preference, I use them > > neat > > whenever possible. > > EOs, being natural essences, have unique vibrational frequencies which > > I try > > not to dilute with other substances. > > Carol ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:40:24 -0000 " hanjkyla " <kyleac Re: OT - vaccines > I am part of Rotary International, a huge world wide > service organization. Paul Harris was the founder, > and he began wanting to do something that would make a > difference. He began a program called Polio Plus. He > and friends traveled the world, administering the > Polio vaccine. Today, due to his vigilance, and > others who continue his work, we are nearly polio > free, WORLD WIDE. There has to be no reported cases > in a country for 7 consecutive years before that third > world country can be considered polio free. Last > year, there were 3 in Afghanistan because we couldn't > get in to do our vaccines. > > In some cases, vaccines can work miracles. In others > (the government sponsored vaccines in Africa which are > believed to have started the spread of AIDS), they can > be deadly. > > Kirstin Kristin, The Chiropractor I work for went to India last fall on a mission trip with a group of students and Doctors. They set up free clinics for the people. She saw more than one child paralized from the polio vaccine and lots of other kinds of vaccine damage. I don't think the reporting the rotory is hearing about is accurate! My Boss won't join rotory because of the things she's seen first hand from their good intentioned work. Samantha ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:35:28 -0000 " hanjkyla " <kyleac Re: OT - vaccines " What I do know is,after the 1980's the vaccines were changed and didn't have any heavy metals in them. " That's just not true. Here is a list of vaccine ingredients from 1997 Vaccine Ingredients and Contact Info Dawn Winkler Source: 1997 Physicians' Desk Reference Toll Free Numbers can be called to obtain product inserts This is a representative, not a comprehensive, list of the various types of vaccines. Acel-Immune DTaP Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Acellular Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed Lederle Laboratories 1-800-934-5556 produced using formaldehyde, thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80, gelatin Act HIB Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Hib) Tetanus Toxoid Conjugate Connaught Laboratories 1-800-822-2463 produced using ammonium sulfate, formalin, sucrose, thimerosal medium: semisynthetic Attenuvax Measles Virus Vaccine Live Merck & Co, Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin medium: chick embryo DPT Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals 1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231 produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulfate, washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal medium: porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein Energix-B Hepatitis B SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals 1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231 produced using aluminum hydroxide, thimerosal medium: yeast (possibly 5% residual) Havrix Hepatitis A SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals 1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231 produced using formalin, aluminum hydroxide, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), polysorbate 20, residual MRC5 proteins (from medium) medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) Biavax Rubella and Mumps Virus Vaccine Live Merck & Co, Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) HibTiter Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Hib) Lederle Laboratories 1-800-934-5556 produced using polyribosylribitol, ammonium sulfate, thimerosal medium: chemically defined, yeast based Fluvirin Influenza Virus Vaccine Medeva Pharmaceuticals 1-888-MEDEVA (716)274-5300 Produced using embryonic fluid (chicken egg), neomycin, polymyxin, thimerosal, betapropiolactone medium: embryonic fluid (chicken egg) FluShield Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A & B Wyeth-Ayerst 1-800-934-5556 produced using gentamicin sulfate, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, tri(n)butylphosphate, thimerosal medium: chick embryos IPOL Inactivated Polio Vaccine Connaught Laboratories 1-800-822-2463 produced using 3 types of polio virus, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), neomycin, streptomycin, polymyxin B medium: VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells MMR Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine Merck & Co., Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed gelatin mediums: M & M - chick embryo Rubella - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) M-R-Vax Measles and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live Merck & Co., Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin mediums: M - chick embryo R - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) Menomune Meningococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine Connaught Laboratories 1-800-822-2463 produced using thimerosal, lactose medium: freeze dried polysaccharride antigens from Neisseria Meningitidis Meruvax II Rubella Virus Vaccine Live Merck & Co., Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) Mumpsvax Mumps Virus Vaccine Live Merck & Co., Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) Orimune Poliovirus Vaccine Live Oral Trivalent Lederle Laboratories 1-800-934-5556 produced using 3 types of attenuated polioviruses, streptomycin, neomycin, calf serum, sorbitol Medium: monkey kidney cell culture Pneumovax Pneumococcal Vaccine Polyvalent Merck & Co., Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using phenol and capsular polysaccharides from the 23 most prevalent pneumococcal types Imovax Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed Connaught Laboratories 1-800-822-2463 produced using human albumin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red indicator medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals 1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231 produced using betapropiolactone, aluminum phosphate, sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate (thimerosal), phenol red medium: fetal rhesus monkey lung cells Recombivax Hepatitis B Vaccine Recombinant Merck & Co., Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide medium: yeast (residual < 1% yeast protein) RotaShield Rotavirus Vaccine, Live, Oral, Tetravalent Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories 1-800-934-5556 produced using 1 rhesus monkey rotavirus, 3 rhesus-human reassortant viruses, sucrose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), potassium monophosphate, potassium diphosphate, fetal bovine serum, neomycin sulfate, amphotericin B medium: fetal rhesus diploid cell line Varivax Varicella Virus Vaccine Live Merck & Co., Inc. 1-800-672-6372 produced using sucrose, phosphate, glutamate, processed gelatin medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) Chemical Profiles and Definitions, visit www.scorecard.org to investigate chemical profiles Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby's Medical Encyclopdia) Ammonium Sulfate: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant neurotoxicant respiratory toxicant Amphotericin B: MME definintion - " a drug used to treat fungus infections. Known allergy to this drug prohibits use. Side effects include blood clots, blood defects, kidney problems, nausea and fever. When used on the skin, allergic reactions can occur. " Aluminum: EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant neurotoxicant respiratory toxicant More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 6 ranking systems On at least 2 federal regulatory lists Beta-Propiolactone: EDF Recognized - carcinogen EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant respiratory toxicant skin or sense organ toxicant More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 3 ranking systems On at least 5 federal regulatory lists Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to humans Formaldehyde: EDF Recognized - carcinogen, Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, immunotoxicant, neurotoxicant, reproductive toxicant, respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant, More hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking systems On at least 8 federal regulatory lists Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health Gentamicin Sulfate: an antibiotic Hydrolyzed Gelatin: obtained from selected pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-mineralized cattle bones (ossein) and porkskin Neomycin: an antibiotic Phenol : EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant aka Carbolic Acid, developmental toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, kidney toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant skin or sense organ toxicant, More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 10 ranking systems On at least 8 federal regulatory lists Phenoxyethanol: EDF Suspected - developmental toxicant aka Antifreeze reproductive toxicant, Less hazardous than most chemicals in 3 ranking systems Polyribosylribitol: a component of the Hib bacterium Polymyxin: an antibiotic Polysorbate: EDF Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant Sorbitol: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant Less hazardous than most chemicals in 1 ranking system Streptomycin: an antibiotic, Sucrose: refined sugar Thimerosal: EDF Recognized - development toxicant, Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant Tri(n)butylphosphate: EDF Suspected - kidney toxicant, neurotoxicant, More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 3 ranking systems On at least 1 federal regulatory list. Policies Copyright © 1999-2004. Unlocking Autism. . Powered by SkuFlow Inventory Systems and my remainders ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:03:11 -0500 grabergirlbyjulia Re: OT - vaccines Let rephrase. It's my understanding from the newspapers and world nightly news a few weeks ago, it was stated after the 1980's heavy metal was no longer utilized in vaccinations. If I'm wrong,I'm wrong. I find it hard to believe those two sources are wrong. Never the less, my personal choice would be the same as was over 30 years ago. Contracting the diseases is far worse than getting the vaccines Julia Graber Girl By Julia ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:56:59 -0500 " Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy Herb of The Week Suggestions? Ok, so I took the summer off when it came to doing the " Herb of the week " .. but now the kiddos are back to school here in TX and although it'll feel like summer until November here <grinz> Autumn is just around the corner and its about time to get back to work ... So, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on what botanicals they'd like to see discussed in our " Herb of the Week " series ... *Smile* Chris (list mom - going off the computer for the day now - should (hopefully) have this technical difficulty taken care of by the weekend) The New Site Is Coming SOON! http://www.alittleolfactory.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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