Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Josh, Couple of things... I totally understand the " put on my body what I put in my body " goal; however, there's a whole chemical thing going on with emulsions. You can take an oil and vinegar (water) salad dressing and turn it into mayonnaise by adding egg yolks (lecithin) - that's a natural emulsion. But the chemistry of lotions/creams is based on which emulsifier or combination of emulsifiers will match with the oils you have selected to create an end product that will not separate. You might want to research the HLB system for more information. Could you please share the details that have lead you to believe that vegetable-derived emulsifying wax would not meet your expectations? Evidently I have not been reading the same ingredient information that you have read. I do know that an ingredient that's identified as " natural " by one source may not be thought of that way by others. I do know that I have chosen to not use wintergreen in any skin care products. Regarding the comments I made about the temperatures - Heating your water phase to 170 and holding for about 10 minutes will ensure that any " beasties " have been sterilized. I do let the water cool down to about 120 before adding to my oils. In the past, I successfully created lotions by putting all ingredients in a single pot; technically that does work. However, IMHO - that means either the water doesn't get heated enough or the oils get too hot and may have their therapeutic properties compromised. For some of my creams, I use an ice water bath while mixing to hasten the cool down. Linda Wallen Village Treasures - Tow, TX Village WebWorks - www.villagewebworks.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hi Linda, Thanks for the in depth response! I just got done reading a lot about HLB and the chemistry of emulsions. :-) About emulsifying wax: Here's a link that explains the ingredients of one e-wax on the market: http://www.chemistrystore.com/emulswax.htm According to this, some even contain SLS: http://www.makeyourcosmetics.com/ingredients/popper.asp?id=82 Many of the e-wax suppliers I've seen online don't even specify the ingredients of their product, a big no-no for me. It's like listing " emulsifiers " in one's lotion ingredients without saying *which ones*. Yay temperature details. Everything you said made sense to me. No 1-pot mixing... that was the frustration talking ;-) Best, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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