Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 An old one .. and I've changed my style a bit .. now I prefer sniffing and adding a drop or three to a good soup .. though I do take a bit in a large spoon of olive oil now and then .. but I am careful not to let it touch my outer lips .. and not to inhale when I am taking it .. I sorta stop breathing. ;-) Butch > Origanums ** How I Use It > Butch Owen <butchbsi > Wed, 13 Nov 2002 02:09:35 -0800 > > > > Hi y'all, > > Here's a post I sent to another list a few months ago. First, keep in > mind that the decision to ingest any essential oil is a personal one and > you'll not find folks recommending it if they're not medical doctors. > That is .. unless they want to place themselves at risk. I have chosen > to ingest Origanums and Rosemary, cineole. Butch > -------------------- > >>You were talking about your Origanums - and medicinal properties. >>How is it administered? Just as a food product, as a cooking oil? > > Yes and yes. > >>or is it used as an aromatherapy medium? > > Yes there too .. ;-p > >>I can't see how something would have these kinds of effects on the >>human body *without* ingesting it somehow. > > It WILL have a great effect on the body if its sniffed and enters > through the olfactory system .. but ingesting is the way I prefer when I > need to kick some Big Dad Bug Butt. > > Somebody once asked how long they could take it .. and I replied: > > 1. There is no magic rule on how long you should/could take it. > > 2. I have never heard of anyone needing it longer than 4-5 days and 2-3 > days is more the norm. If you are still ill after 4-5 days, then you > have one of those RARE bugs that Oregano will not kick .. and I mean one > of the RARE ones. > > Meaning .. if you haven't kicked that bad bug after 4-5 days, you might > need to go to a medical doctor. > > You should not take Oregano every day .. it is not for maintenance - it > is for Big Bad Bug Butt kicking when you need it. It is the cannon you > pull out when the enemy (bugs) are trying to overrun your position. > > Will it hurt you to take it for 7-8 or 10 days? Not likely because > we're really talking about toxicity and it is not a very toxic oil for > ingestion .. but still, it is a good rule to not use any EO for long > periods of time .. especially and moreso if we are talking dermal > application cause we get into sensitivity then. And its not impossible > to become sensitized from ingestion or eating everyday things. > > The longer we use an oil, the more we are increasing the odds of having > bad luck .. be it sensitization or the worst case, overtaxing the liver. > > Lemme tell y'all a few of the other ways I take Oregano EO when I need > it .. and I don't take it when I don't need it!!! > > Origanum is a genus of 21 species with a larger number of sub-species, > varietas and cultivars. The most commonly know oregano is the Origanum > vulgare (subsp. hirtum, syn. heracleoticum) Commonly called, Cannakale > Oregano, Greek Oregano, Turkish Oregano, Istanbul Oregano, True Oregano > and Marmara Oregano. BUT - just because someone tells you they sell > Origanum vulgare does not mean it is really O. vulgare - there is not > enough true Origanum vulgare to supply all those who claim to have it. > > A few other good Origanums are: > > O. dubium > O. dictamnus > O. marjorana > O. x marjorana (subsp. virens) > O. onites (syn. Symrneum) > O. vulgare (other subsp.) > O. rotundifolium > O. levigatum > O. microphyllum > O. aureum > O. aureum crispum > O. compactum > O. variegatum > O. minutiflorum > > And there are many, many more. Obviously, all are not used to produce > essential oils or for culinary purposes. But the carvacrol rich > Origanums that are used for EO are POWERFUL! > > The Oregano of Spain that many folks sell - Thymus capitatus - is not > of the Genus Origanum. We have similar misunderstandings with Mexican > and Cuban plants that are commonly, but mistakenly called Origanum. > > The below concerns Origanum - it is NOT a recommendation .... I am not a > medical doctor so I'm not authorized to diagnose, prescribe or even make > recommendations of how to treat illness .. and I don't. It's merely a > testimonial of how I choose to deal with it. Someone wrote: > > >>I take 2-3 drops in a spoonful of sugar 2 times a day well i try takes guts >>to get myself to take it lol sorry butch but I burp oregano for hours LOL! >>It does work well sure helps this old mom from being too sick to take care >>of the three youngins (noone stops to take care of moms hehe)..butch and >>chris can tell ya more i am a oil user but they are the serious expert LOL. >>I can tell ya i had a very awful cold sore throat just nasty i took it for >>1-2 days and it was all gone even the lingering crud! Oh reminds me... >>*BUTCH can we put it in capsules and take it like that i know the effect >>would be less but would be much easier on me lOL...thanks* > > > The answer is that if it is well diluted in olive oil it will last a > while but if it is not it will eat its way out of the capsule .. ;-p > > Someone else wrote: > >>I learn something new everyday on this site!!!! How much oregano >>oil do you take for a cold? I really get one (knock on wood) but >>when I do it knocks the peewaddle out of me. >>I had the delight of watching dh take oregano oil for a cold. > > > First .. if I were not absolutely sure that my oils are pure oils, oils > that have not been adulterated and were quality oils ... and they are > and I can prove it as they are GC tested, I would never consider taking > them internally - but I am sure so I do ingest them when I need to. > > In the case of Oregano EO, carvacrol has been proven to be effective at > even the lowest dosages - we don't need a 12 gauage shotgun to kill a > mosquito. It's hard to convince some folks of that .. but it is very > important to remember that MORE IS NOT BETTER!!!!!!!!!!! > > I ingest essential oils when I need to and I give them to my friends and > employees. We don't usually get sick but when we feel we are catching a > bug, it doesn't last long. Many ... most? ... aromatherapists ingest > essential oils - but they hesitate to come out with testimonials because > they don't want to appear to be making recommendations and because they > fear that those who don't have enough knowledge will use the wrong oils > for the wrong things and in the wrong dosage - they're not totally wrong > to fear this. Still .. many of them are coming out of the closet. > > Some are still concerned about being sued or otherwise slam dunked for > prescribing medicine without a license. We know that America is a > litigation oriented society - a real hotbed of lawsuits. Spill coffee > on yourself and retire after you successfully sue McDonalds. > > Some are concerned about criticism by peers ... especially peers who > have a bone to pick with them. That criticism could come from someone > who ingests EOs themselves but has a twisted code of ethics. In that > case, it's a " do as I say, not as I do " matter; its phoney, but still > potentially damaging to the professional reputation of the recipient of > the slam dunk. > > I don't recommend ingestion because I'm not a doctor but I don't > hestitate to provide testimonals - and I'm not one to disregard the > important safety issues. Regardless of how one chooses to use essential > oils, it is powerful self-medication and it shouldn't be abused. > > I also hoard testimonials from others and I could fill your hard drive > with them. > > Against microbial critters, there is an abundance of scientific studies > supporting the value of Oregano EO .. as for prevention/protection > against influenza viruses, or treatment if one grabs you, that's a real > personal decision as we don't have scientific support for saying that > any essential oil is anti-viral. But I don't disregard the empirical > evidence from my own observations and those of many other good folks. I > am convinced that Oregano EO can make many viruses go into hiding again > .. make them stop replicating and seek shelter, which is all medical > science can do at this point .. but there are likely new viruses or even > some older ones that can't be stopped with Oregano or any other EO. > Viruses go underground themselves after a time. Of course, they'll come > back when we let our immune system get down again. > > Here in Turkey, the flu bug knocks hundreds of thousands of people to > their knees (or worse) each year. We haven't had it in my office since > 1996 and one of my employee's sister teaches at Bilkent University - > teachers are exposed to that virus easily, and they bring it home to the > rest of the family. None of us intend to take flu shots AGAIN this year > and none of us expects to lose work due to influenze AGAIN this year. > All of use intend to use Oregano EO in a responsible manner. > > How much do I take? I'll tell you later but I don't think is so much a > matter of how much is safe per day, but one of prolonged use - that is > where you can get into potential problems - not different than dealing > with alcohol. Abuse - that is, massive amounts of anything besides > water gives the ol' liver a workout and the longer we abuse, the more > chance we have of becoming diseased. Toxicity is not going to be a big > issue with Origanum because I can't ingest the amount that's considered > as being toxic (based on extrapolated LD50 testing). > > I've not known anyone to need oregano oil longer than three or four > days - not saying there might not be some who used it longer, but I've > not heard of it. Plus, the amount we use is very small because it's > proven that maximum benefits can be obtained from even small amounts of > carvacrol - which is the chemical component that has maximum therapeutic > value in Oregano. > > Can it be used by children? It can by mine .. but I would not consider > recommending it for someone else's child - and never for babies. Just > last night a lady asked if a ten month old child that had chronic colds > or whatever could take it .. or if the nursing mother could take it and > give it to the child. I recommended against this because it could cause > such a small child to gasp, lose their breath and pass out, and that the > mother's milk might not taste right to the child which could interfere > with nursing. Methinks that a ten month old child that is not really > sick is doing a lot to develop a healthy immune system by kicking those > bugs on its own. > > A few months back, another lady asked me on another list if a three year > old who was constantly catching this and that bug (likely due to a weak > immune system .. methinks) should use oregano oil. I said that if it > were my three year old, the answer would be yes - and I'd use one drop > twice a day, but if it were someone else's three year old, I'd recommend > they consult their doctor. I also told her that if the three year old > continues to take antibiotics for every illness, then illnesses will > probably continue because the immune system will be wrecked. Oregano is > an immunostimulant, as are some herbs, spices and essential oils made > therefrom. It is probiotic .. meaning it knows which Big Bad Bug Butts > to kick .. it doesn't destroy those guys in the white hats. > > There is still much to be learned about EOs, so in the interest of > safety and CYA (cover your *butt*) - both honorable concerns - we have > created a number of popular rumors to keep away the Boogie Man. If > we're going to err, then let it be in the interest of safety 'cause who > knows, there might really be a Boogie Man. But ingestion of Oregano EO > is not a revolutionary thing .. it is a time-honored tradition here in > Turkey and I have used it since early 1996. > > I believe in safe use of EOs and I also believe that only 100% pure EOs > should be used. As pure has no legal meaning in the USA, I like to take > it a bit further - the oils should be natural, unadulterated, and not > have been subjected to folding, combining, stretching or any other form > of " engineering " or manipulation by man. They should be straight from > the still, just the pure renderings of the aromatic plant as it was > created by God, Allah, Jehova, Moneta or the Great Everywhere Spirit. > > How do I and my people take Oregano when we think we need it? Well, > EOs don't dissolve or blend in water .. but they will in a fatty liquid > like milk .. but I hate milk so I often use water ... :-) All of my > employees love milk so they sometimes take it with milk. > > How much do I use? Of I feel I might have a bug coming on I will make > up a 10/90 blend .. 10% Oregano EO and 90% Extra-Virgin Olive Oil .. the > EVOO has therapeutic value unto itself. If I wake up with a bug already > in control, I might go with a stronger dilution - maybe even a 20/80 .. > and that is pretty darned strong. > > There are some companies selling oregano/olive oil mixed in bottles with > rubber droppers .. that is not cool because that oregano oil will start > to leach molecules from that rubber within minutes of contact - and in a > short period of time, that rubber bulk will get soft. What's the impact > of this? Who knows .. but why mess with it? > > I might put three fingers of water in a small glass and drop 2 or 3 > drops of the mixture into the water. I then " shoot it " like I would a > shot of tequila. I immediately follow it with a whole glass of water to > wash it down. When I say I shoot it and immediately follow it with > water, I'm not joking because the carvacrol will sting my lips just a > little. This sting is very temporary and it's not dangerous .. sorta > like a hot pepper tingle but I don't let it linger in my mouth. When I > shoot it, I open my mouth wide and avoid my lips - I don't sip it. > > As for burning lips - even the lowest concentration will make my lips > smart, but the trick is to get it in the mouth - not on the mouth or the > lips (sounds like an M & M commerical - huh?) It won't burn the inside of > my mouth but I'll know it's there .. ;-) > > My employees sometimes drop 2 or 3 drops directly into a glass of milk > and drink it as they would if it were only milk......uuuggggghhhh! > > One of my employees once used a bit too much and it took her breath - > better yet, it made her think she couldn't breath - of course, that was > just a panic reaction. I had her to calm down - slowly breath through > her nose and drink another big glass of liquid. > > I sometimes put 2-3 drops of the olive oil/oregano mix in a spoon of > sugar, then put a sip of water in my mouth - take in the sugar, hold my > nose and swallow it and immediately. I chase it with a glass of water. > > Here's nother method I use from time to time because I love the taste of > Extra-Virgin Olive Oil. I take a large soup spoon, fill it up with EVOO > and put 2-3 drops of the diluted mixture in the spoon - I take the spoon > of EVOO in my mouth, roll it around and then swallow. I chase it with a > glass of water .. there is no harsh taste, no tingling or burning and I > like this method. > > Finally, I sometimes put a couple of drops in soup .. lentil is great > for this as it greatly improves the flavor. > > I have given the mixture of origanum/olive oil to employees who had > Strep Throat - confirmed and complete with white patches. Within 24 to > 48 hours, it was cured! It worked! BUT - I have scientific studies > that show Oregano EO is a butt-kicker against strep - so no surprises. > > There are many references for use of organo as effective treatment for > fungal infections, warts, psoriasis, eczema, viruses, strep and the > common cold. > > One study states: " In test tube studies, wild oregano has been shown to > inhibit the growth of Candida albicans, the microbial cause of yeast > infections. " and " Since oregano oil is an anti-inflammatory agent it can > be rubbed on aching muscles to relieve strains, and used directly on > minor burns and wounds to promote healing. " The latter statement > suggests it might be good for massage. Dr. Cass Igram, in his book, > " The Cure is in the Cupboard, " recommends chest massage with Oregano EO > during asthma attacks .. he peddles Oregano oil plus he's a doctor and > can make such recommendations. > > But .. to clarify the above .. perhaps its the inhalation thats working > instead of the direct dermal application. And if one chooses to use it > for dermal application, the tested safe percentage is 4%. > > As far as I know, there is no scientific research on the relationship of > ANY essential and the liver. Lots of speculation and extrapolation, but > no scientifically conducted and peer-reviewed research. But then, we > don't have any research on how long we can drink Wild Turkey, Efes Beer, > Turkish Coffee or Coca Cola before we're in danger of liver problems. > > I guess that as with other types of diseases, some folks will fall > victim while others thrive. Extensive empirical studies conducted over > a lengthy period of time by yours truly show that the number of years I > have lived is not enough time for good ol' kuntry boys to develop liver > problems from the above mentioned drinks....... ;-) > > I'll close this by AGAIN saying that I DO NOT RECOMMEND anyone ingest > any essential oil .. I have provided a testimonial of how me and my > employees use it - along with a bit of info on the generally accepted > value of the EO .. > > I take my Wild Turkey straight with a dash of branch water and three > cubes. With Wild Turkey, you sniff it, savor it, roll it over your > tongue slowly - that could well be classified as aromatherapy..... ;-) > > Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com > > Bulk/Wholesale/Retail GC tested EOs, Rose Otto, Hydrosols and other nice > things shipped to you from Friendsville, Maryland > > How To Make Rose Petal Jam - Step By Step Instructions > http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > > To Un send a blank e-mail to: - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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