Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Hi folks, I've been reading about CO2 totals and wondering some things. What is the consistency like? How waxy/thick? Specifically, I'm wondering about replacing beeswax in the Rosemary's Perfect Cream recipe with some. What are some other ways folks have used these totals? -Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Hi Josh, >Hi folks, > >I've been reading about CO2 totals and wondering some things. What is >the consistency like? How waxy/thick? I've bought some from different suppliers and each one was different. I've got one now that is very thick, like a concrete. I've also gotten some that appear to be just like an eo or absolute, pretty much a liquid. They are mostly supposed to be fairly thick, especially the totals I think. >Specifically, I'm wondering >about replacing beeswax in the Rosemary's Perfect Cream recipe with >some. Don't think that a co2 is appropriate for this purpose. I'd add it to her recipe just for the benefits of the co2 itself at like .5% - 1%. You might need to be looking at something like candilila wax?? Here's a question... Why are you wanting to replace the beeswax in the cream recipe?? The beeswax acts as the emulsifier for the cream. So.... if you replace it, it would need to be replaced with another emulsifier. Stearic acid, Vegie e-wax, cetyl alcohol, lecithin, xanthan, etc... What exactly are you trying for and maybe I can come up with something for you to try. > >What are some other ways folks have used these totals? I so far have just used them for the benefits they might provide to the skin. I've only used calendula, rose hip seed and sea buckthorn berry though. Margaret http://www.naturalindulgences.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 At 04:23 AM 7/8/2005, you wrote: >Hi folks, > >I've been reading about CO2 totals and wondering some things. What is >the consistency like? How waxy/thick? Specifically, I'm wondering >about replacing beeswax in the Rosemary's Perfect Cream recipe with >some. I'd not try that substitution... most of the totals are 'sticky/thick' but not solid as beeswax. We use them the way we would essential oils...at perhaps 1% or 2% of a formula. if you are looking for a substitute for beeswax I'd look at some of the more solid floral waxes... mimosa, for example is rock hard...would perhaps work in your application. >What are some other ways folks have used these totals? We have clients using several of them in skincare products. again, at the level one would use an EO. Celebrating 10 years online. Supplying pure Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Thanks for the confirming information. >if you are looking for a substitute for beeswax I'd look at some of the >more solid floral waxes... mimosa, for example is rock hard...would >perhaps work in your application. So is there anything special about beeswax that makes it an emulsifier, or should I be able to make a different wax work just based on the fact that what we think of as waxes are so solid (versus the oil and water we're trying to mix)? -Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 There's nothing else in Rosemary's recipe... unless the lanolin is doin' something I should know about ;-) >Beeswax wont work to emulsify oil and water - you need Tween 20 or Tween 80 >for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Anyone who uses these substances in a product for use on the skin are playing with fire and inviting a customer to sue you. There is no safety data on these extracts and if anything is going to cause a skin reaction those extracts are. As pointed out previously, they are waste products and contain who knows what natural chemicals in who knows what proportions. In the case of CO2 extracts they are highly likely to contain the plants sensitising chemicals that hot distillation often destroys or removes. You people are just inviting the kind of draconian legislation being imposed on us in Europe. It now looks like tea tree oil is going to be banned and nothing aromatherapists say will stop it. Martin Watt http://www.aromamedical.com , Joshua Alexander <listservs@e...> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've been reading about CO2 totals and wondering some things. What is > the consistency like? How waxy/thick? Specifically, I'm wondering > about replacing beeswax in the Rosemary's Perfect Cream recipe with > some. > > What are some other ways folks have used these totals? > > -Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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