how can i make a balm......have tried disaster below!!

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hi all my partner has baaaad psoriasis which he insists on using a

vaseline type preperation that does not work.He does not get on well

with oils.i attempted to melt some coco butter and added evening

primrose to it with cham blue and helychrysum.......thinking it would

harden a little once cool.I know i sound dumb but what in chemistrys

name have i done wrong!!!!! cheers jane x

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Jane,

 

I have just made balm - it was for a wholesale client. I learned! 300

jars later! LOL

 

I used olive oil and hardened it with beeswax. After all was melted I

added my EO's

and then put it in a crockery bowl that was set in cold water and you

just keep whipping

it up until it hardens to the consistency that you want. After 50 jars

I got a stick blender!

LOL

 

Sandi

BlackKat Herbs

http://www.blackkatherbs.com

 

>

[Guest guest]

, Blackkat <blackkat@d...>

wrote:

> Jane, oh i see coco butter is not good........mmmmm didnt think i

would have to whip it,i thought it would automatically all harden

together!!

>

> I have just made balm - it was for a wholesale client. I

learned! 300

> jars later! LOL

>

> I used olive oil and hardened it with beeswax. After all was

melted I

> added my EO's

> and then put it in a crockery bowl that was set in cold water and

you

> just keep whipping

> it up until it hardens to the consistency that you want. After 50

jars

> I got a stick blender!

> LOL

>

> Sandi

> BlackKat Herbs

> http://www.blackkatherbs.com

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Jane,

 

Salves naturally harden - that's what I was used to making. Then I found

out from a list member that balms have to be stirred/whipped to consistency.

I learn something everyday!

 

Sandi

BlackKat Herbs

http://www.blackkatherbs.com

[Guest guest]

I don't understand why you would use a stick blender to make a balm. I make

balms all the time and have never used my stick blender to make the balms and

don't see why you need to use one. Can you explain a little more ? I use infused

oils and bees wax in my balms and it hardens up fine - the end result has the

thickness of petroleum jelly.

Paula .......... in Michigan

> Jane, oh i see coco butter is not good........mmmmm didnt think i

would have to whip it,i thought it would automatically all harden

together!!

>

> I have just made balm - it was for a wholesale client. I

learned! 300

> jars later! LOL

>

> I used olive oil and hardened it with beeswax. After all was

melted I

> added my EO's

> and then put it in a crockery bowl that was set in cold water and

you

> just keep whipping

> it up until it hardens to the consistency that you want. After 50

jars

> I got a stick blender!

> LOL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane,

 

A balm is traditionally beeswax, although you could do it the way you are,

but you will need a liquid oil - Warm this in a double boiler, and add the

other oils to it, it has to be hot to blend properly. The way to test it is

the same way you would test am, drop a drop on a cold saucer, and check to

see how it sets up. Keep adding the beeswax (or cocoa butter) cut into

small chunks, until you get the consistency you want,

 

mary

Well, Naturally

http://www.wellnaturally.com

 

 

 

At 04:45 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

>hi all my partner has baaaad psoriasis which he insists on using a

>vaseline type preperation that does not work.He does not get on well

>with oils.i attempted to melt some coco butter and added evening

>primrose to it with cham blue and helychrysum.......thinking it would

>harden a little once cool.I know i sound dumb but what in chemistrys

>name have i done wrong!!!!! cheers jane x

>

>

>

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Sorry, meant to say, test Jam

 

Mary

Well, Naturally

 

 

 

 

At 08:10 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

>Hi Jane,

>

>A balm is traditionally beeswax, although you could do it the way you are,

>but you will need a liquid oil - Warm this in a double boiler, and add the

>other oils to it, it has to be hot to blend properly. The way to test it is

>the same way you would test am, drop a drop on a cold saucer, and check to

>see how it sets up. Keep adding the beeswax (or cocoa butter) cut into

>small chunks, until you get the consistency you want,

>

>mary

>Well, Naturally

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>

>

>

>At 04:45 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

> >hi all my partner has baaaad psoriasis which he insists on using a

> >vaseline type preperation that does not work.He does not get on well

> >with oils.i attempted to melt some coco butter and added evening

> >primrose to it with cham blue and helychrysum.......thinking it would

> >harden a little once cool.I know i sound dumb but what in chemistrys

> >name have i done wrong!!!!! cheers jane x

> >

> >

> >

> >

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, Mary Robinson <maryr@u...>

wrote:

 

Ah i see you heat the oil and add the cocobutter or beeswax to that

not the other way round.........would alsp like to know the

difference between a salve and a balm then.........he uses vaseline

which i would think is more salve like then?

> Hi Jane,

>

> A balm is traditionally beeswax, although you could do it the way

you are,

> but you will need a liquid oil - Warm this in a double boiler, and

add the

> other oils to it, it has to be hot to blend properly. The way to

test it is

> the same way you would test am, drop a drop on a cold saucer, and

check to

> see how it sets up. Keep adding the beeswax (or cocoa butter) cut

into

> small chunks, until you get the consistency you want,

>

> mary

> Well, Naturally

> http://www.wellnaturally.com

>

>

>

> At 04:45 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

> >hi all my partner has baaaad psoriasis which he insists on using a

> >vaseline type preperation that does not work.He does not get on

well

> >with oils.i attempted to melt some coco butter and added evening

> >primrose to it with cham blue and helychrysum.......thinking it

would

> >harden a little once cool.I know i sound dumb but what in

chemistrys

> >name have i done wrong!!!!! cheers jane x

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves:

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Paula,

 

My client wanted this light and fluffy....my salves harden up and are

definitely not light and fluffy. But the stick blender whips it up so

nice and fluffy. and the stick blender is much easier than my trying

to whip uo 300 2 oz jars of this balm. LOL

 

Sandi

BlackKat Herbs

http://www.blackkatherbs.com

 

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[Guest guest]

Sounds like your client wants a whipped body butter rather than a balm or salve.

Serra

 

 

On 6/24/05, Blackkat <blackkat wrote:

> Paula,

>

> My client wanted this light and fluffy....my salves harden up and are

> definitely not light and fluffy. But the stick blender whips it up so

> nice and fluffy. and the stick blender is much easier than my trying

> to whip uo 300 2 oz jars of this balm. LOL

>

> Sandi

> BlackKat Herbs

> http://www.blackkatherbs.com

 

 

 

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Well whatever we call it, the way I make it is the way she likes it...

thank goodness!!!! LOL

 

Sandi

 

Serra wrote:

 

> Sounds like your client wants a whipped body butter rather than a balm

> or salve.

> Serra

>

>

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so it was more like a whipped cocobutter ??? When I think of a salve, I picture

something like petroleum jelly. The 'Mom's Belly Balm' I make is 75% cocobutter

and 25% oil and whipped - a lot like whipped shea butter.

Paula .......... in Michigan

 

Paula,

 

My client wanted this light and fluffy....my salves harden up and are

definitely not light and fluffy. But the stick blender whips it up so

nice and fluffy. and the stick blender is much easier than my trying

to whip uo 300 2 oz jars of this balm. LOL

 

Sandi

BlackKat Herbs

http://www.blackkatherbs.com

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

no, since I've never seen a whipped cocoa butter I can't really

compare. This

is lighter and fluffier than the consistency of vaseline. It almost

looks like

a cream key lime pie filling...beautiful muted lemon yellow..

 

Sandi

 

paula coon wrote:

 

> so it was more like a whipped cocobutter ??? When I think of a salve,

> I picture something like petroleum jelly. The 'Mom's Belly Balm' I

> make is 75% cocobutter and 25% oil and whipped - a lot like whipped

> shea butter.

> Paula .......... in Michigan

>

>

[Guest guest]

sounds just like my whipped golden shea body butter - 80% shea butter & 20% oil

and whipped until it's kind of like whipped cream

Paula .......... in Michigan

 

 

no, since I've never seen a whipped cocoa butter I can't really

compare. This

is lighter and fluffier than the consistency of vaseline. It almost

looks like

a cream key lime pie filling...beautiful muted lemon yellow..

 

Sandi

 

paula coon wrote:

 

> so it was more like a whipped cocobutter ??? When I think of a salve,

> I picture something like petroleum jelly. The 'Mom's Belly Balm' I

> make is 75% cocobutter and 25% oil and whipped - a lot like whipped

> shea butter.

> Paula .......... in Michigan

>

>

 

 

 

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yep, the consistency can be compared to that..... between the EO's

and the beeswax, this stuff I make smells good enough to eat!! LOL

 

So, Paula, how doyou whip yours into fluffiness? Any pointers as

this first order of 300 hopefully will turn into larger orders!

 

Sandi

 

 

paula coon wrote:

 

> sounds just like my whipped golden shea body butter - 80% shea butter

> & 20% oil and whipped until it's kind of like whipped cream

> Paula .......... in Michigan

>

>

[Guest guest]

soften, not melt, the butter; add the oil and set the bowl under my mixer and

let it whip for about half an hour. When it's about double in volume, it's done.

A 4 oz jar will hold about 2 oz net wt. of the whipped butter. It only takes a

tiny bit. If it feels greasy on your skin, you're using too much.

Paula .......... in Michigan

So, Paula, how doyou whip yours into fluffiness? Any pointers as

this first order of 300 hopefully will turn into larger orders!

 

Sandi

 

 

paula coon wrote:

 

> sounds just like my whipped golden shea body butter - 80% shea butter

> & 20% oil and whipped until it's kind of like whipped cream

> Paula .......... in Michigan

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I may have to try it your way next time around. :- )

Sure sounds easier than my way.....

 

Sandi

 

paula coon wrote:

 

> soften, not melt, the butter; add the oil and set the bowl under my

> mixer and let it whip for about half an hour. When it's about double

> in volume, it's done. A 4 oz jar will hold about 2 oz net wt. of the

> whipped butter. It only takes a tiny bit. If it feels greasy on your

> skin, you're using too much.

> Paula .......... in Michigan

>