Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 I don't want to use the hand sanitizers with the alcohol in them (although I am not quite sure why -- anyone?), but I would like to keep something in the diaper bag for using on my hands and also the baby's (6 months old) when we are out and about and need cleaning up. So I not only need something effective, but also safe to put on Owen's hands which will inevitably end up in his mouth. Any thoughts about what to use? Here were some of my ideas. -- oregano hydrosol -- half lavender, half rosemary -- still would be effective, I think, but we wouldn't smell like salads, LOL, just lamb chops as my dad would say about that blend! -- a bit of colloidal silver added to one of the above hydrosols -- if I didn't want to use a spray bottle, how about adding some essential oils to aloe gel (probably lavender and tea tree)? Just thought hydrosols would be gentler on baby and esp. in mouth Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Debbie deb www.debrasrhapsody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 I understand about not wanting to use the alcohol...but in the recipe I have I use just 2t alcohol with 1c aloe vera gel and I add glycerine with the eo. If you are worried about the alcohol why aren't you worried about the hydrosol/eo that you would be using? Wouldn't the alcohol dry quickly and wouldn't the hydrosol/eo enter the skin just as quickly? Just asking...not real sure about it. Kat > [Original Message] > Debra McDuffee <deb > > 6/2/2005 12:30:25 PM > hand sanitizer -- oregano??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 >I don't want to use the hand sanitizers with the alcohol in them > (although I am not quite sure why -- anyone?), but I would like to keep > something in the diaper bag for using on my hands and also the baby's (6 > months old) when we are out and about and need cleaning up. So I not > only need something effective, but also safe to put on Owen's hands > which will inevitably end up in his mouth. Any thoughts about what to > use? - Hi Debbie, I think you are sensible wanting to keep hands clean outdoors. It's been shown that you are more likely to pick up bacteria from contaminated surfaces and then transferring them to your face than you are from breathing them in. Alcohol is used because it evaporates quickly and acts as a preservative. If you don't use alcohol you need a preservative or the hand wipes/spray will in turn become bacteria laden. Here is what I make as hand wipes. I also wipe trolley handles in supermarkets ...especially if I have one of my grandchildren sitting in the trolley. I store the wipes in a small zip top plastic bag. These are Australian measurements and there are 4 teaspoon in a tablespoon here. The blend of oils is 3% which is too strong for use on your baby but you could make a pack for him that contains just 15 drops of lavender oil in the vodka and glycerine. Anti-infection Hand Wipes 4 tablespoons (90ml) vodka 1 teaspoon glycerine 20 drops lavender oil 20 drops tea-tree oil 10 drops geranium oil 10 drops oregano oil To make: Mix the oils with the vodka and glycerine and leave for a day to synergise. Put in a spray bottle and spray small sheets of cloth (environmentally sound) or kitchen paper towel (stronger and cheaper than tissues) with the blend. Re-spray as often as necessary to keep the oils fresh. Go well, Nerys NEW--Bodycraft E-Book www.neryspurchon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I am not so worried about the alcohol making or not making the eos sink in as much as the drying properties and the " unnaturalness " of the alcohol. I suppose the vodka like Nerys suggested might be a better choice than the rubbing alcohol, but I don't really know. Also wondering if the alcohol helps breed super germs and all that. Does the alcohol in your recipe just help it dry more quickly? Don't you find the glycerin sticky? RICHARD L HOHLER wrote: > I understand about not wanting to use the alcohol...but in the recipe I > have I use just 2t alcohol with 1c aloe vera gel and I add glycerine with > the eo. If you are worried about the alcohol why aren't you worried about > the hydrosol/eo that you would be using? Wouldn't the alcohol dry quickly > and wouldn't the hydrosol/eo enter the skin just as quickly? Just > asking...not real sure about it. Kat > > > >>[Original Message] >>Debra McDuffee <deb >> >>6/2/2005 12:30:25 PM >> hand sanitizer -- oregano??? >> > Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > > To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Thanks for this. I am wondering if aany eos on his little hands would be too much as they are always in his mouth. Do you think hydrosol would work? M and N Purchon wrote: >>I don't want to use the hand sanitizers with the alcohol in them >>(although I am not quite sure why -- anyone?), but I would like to keep >>something in the diaper bag for using on my hands and also the baby's (6 >>months old) when we are out and about and need cleaning up. So I not >>only need something effective, but also safe to put on Owen's hands >>which will inevitably end up in his mouth. Any thoughts about what to >>use? > > - > Hi Debbie, > > I think you are sensible wanting to keep hands clean outdoors. It's been > shown that you are more likely to pick up bacteria from contaminated > surfaces and then transferring them to your face than you are from breathing > them in. > > Alcohol is used because it evaporates quickly and acts as a preservative. If > you don't use alcohol you need a preservative or the hand wipes/spray will > in turn become bacteria laden. > > Here is what I make as hand wipes. I also wipe trolley handles in > supermarkets ...especially if I have one of my grandchildren > sitting in the trolley. I store the wipes in a small zip top plastic bag. > > These are Australian measurements and there are 4 teaspoon in a tablespoon > here. The blend of oils is 3% which is too strong for use on your baby but > you could make a pack for him that contains just 15 drops of lavender oil in > the vodka and glycerine. > > Anti-infection Hand Wipes > 4 tablespoons (90ml) vodka > 1 teaspoon glycerine > 20 drops lavender oil > 20 drops tea-tree oil > 10 drops geranium oil > 10 drops oregano oil > > To make: Mix the oils with the vodka and glycerine and leave for a day to > synergise. > Put in a spray bottle and spray small sheets of cloth (environmentally > sound) or kitchen > paper towel (stronger and cheaper than tissues) with the blend. > Re-spray as often as necessary to keep the oils fresh. > > Go well, > > Nerys > NEW--Bodycraft E-Book > www.neryspurchon.com > > > > > Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > > To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I suppose the vodka like Nerys suggested might be a better choice than the rubbing alcohol, but I don't really know.[snip] I am wondering if aany eos on his little hands would be too much as they are always in his mouth. Do you think hydrosol would work? ------------------- Hi Debbie, I tend to concentrate on the surroundings rather than the hands of a baby ....at 6 months old he will still be sitting rather than crawling? By using the wipes on the bits of the shopping trolley (cart in USA??) that he touches you are ensuring his safety as well as you can. Alcohols are confusing...here's a bit about the main ones: ETHANOL is grain alcohol and is safe to be used, at various dilutions, for making alcoholic drinks, tinctures and astringents and for dissolving essential oils. ISOPROPYL alcohol is made by the combination of sulfuric acid and propene, it's best known as the main ingredient in rubbing alcohol, which is made by combining isopropyl alcohol and water (normally 70% alcohol to 30% water) but is also present in window cleaners, toiletries, disinfectants, antifreeze, and paint remover. Definitely for external use and poisonous if ingested. METHANOL, also known as wood alcohol or methylated spirits, is poisonous and is used as an antifreeze, solvent, fuel, cleaner and added to ethyl alcohol to denature it and render it undrinkable because of its taste and smell. Unfortunately this denaturating doesn't prevent some poor unfortunates from drinking this very poisonous and terrible tasting and smelling alcohol as the alcohol carries no tax and consequently is very cheap. Methylated spirit is sometimes known as Meths for short. Proof and percentage are not the same thing. Many spirits such as vodka are about 35 proof (or less) which makes them only 20% alcohol. To answer the second query. If you use a hydrosol you will need a preservative or the bacteria will quickly multiply. I think I would feel safer with the minute amount of lavender essential oil I suggested in vodka to most of the preservatives. Go well, Nerys NEW Bodycraft E-Book www.neryspurchon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Actually, my little guy is just the opposite! He can sit, and will for short periods of time, but before long he is diving forward and scootching all around! So, between the fingers constantly in the mouth and the fingers touching everything, I like to wash his little hands often, which is why I wanted to concentrate on the hands instead of the surroundings. I'd be sanitizing the whole world, LOL! Thanks so much for all of your imput, and the great info on alcohols! M and N Purchon wrote: > I suppose the vodka like Nerys suggested might be a better > choice than the rubbing alcohol, but I don't really know.[snip] > I am wondering if aany eos on his little hands would > be too much as they are always in his mouth. Do you think hydrosol > would work? > ------------------- > Hi Debbie, > > I tend to concentrate on the surroundings rather than the hands of a baby > ...at 6 months old he will still be sitting rather than crawling? By using > the wipes on the bits of the shopping trolley (cart in USA??) that he > touches you are ensuring his safety as well as you can. > > Alcohols are confusing...here's a bit about the main ones: > ETHANOL is grain alcohol and is safe to be used, at various dilutions, for > making alcoholic drinks, tinctures and astringents and for dissolving > essential oils. > ISOPROPYL alcohol is made by the combination of sulfuric acid and propene, > it's best known as the main ingredient in rubbing alcohol, which is made by > combining isopropyl alcohol and water (normally 70% alcohol to 30% water) > but is also present in window cleaners, toiletries, disinfectants, > antifreeze, and paint remover. Definitely for external use and poisonous if > ingested. > METHANOL, also known as wood alcohol or methylated spirits, is poisonous and > is used as an antifreeze, solvent, fuel, cleaner and added to ethyl alcohol > to denature it and render it undrinkable because of its taste and smell. > Unfortunately this denaturating doesn't prevent some poor unfortunates from > drinking this very poisonous and terrible tasting and smelling alcohol as > the alcohol carries no tax and consequently is very cheap. Methylated > spirit is sometimes known as Meths for short. > > > Proof and percentage are not the same thing. Many spirits such as vodka are > about 35 proof (or less) which makes them only 20% alcohol. > > To answer the second query. If you use a hydrosol you will need a > preservative or the bacteria will quickly multiply. I think I would feel > safer with the minute amount of lavender essential oil I suggested in vodka > to most of the preservatives. > > Go well, > > Nerys > NEW Bodycraft E-Book > www.neryspurchon.com > > > > > Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > > To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Sorry it took me so long to answer. It is only sticky for a short time...just until dry. Then the sticky is gone. Kat > [Original Message] > Debra McDuffee <deb > > 6/3/2005 7:52:39 PM > Re: hand sanitizer -- oregano??? > > I am not so worried about the alcohol making or not making the eos sink > in as much as the drying properties and the " unnaturalness " of the > alcohol. I suppose the vodka like Nerys suggested might be a better > choice than the rubbing alcohol, but I don't really know. Also > wondering if the alcohol helps breed super germs and all that. Does the > alcohol in your recipe just help it dry more quickly? Don't you find > the glycerin sticky? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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