Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Vicki Younger <vicki Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:54:00 +1000 RE: Organically certified-another point Hi Martin, And I'm very pleased to see that you take part on this list! And thanks to others who contributed to the organic thread because I've found it very interesting. > Thanks Christine for that info. on the US scene, but I still wonder > about the inspection regimes and how sound they are. Your comments about organic certification are especially interesting. Here in Australia, I've always thought we lagged way behind in terms of certifying bodies and because of many separate factions. Some certifying bodies have merged over the years but not without a great deal of angst and political upheaval within the organisations that are proposing to merge. And some certifying bodies are much tougher on the growers who want to achieve certification than others. I did some checking about the state of affairs in Australia, because naively I thought the annual inspections included soil testing each time, and I had believed that at least things were being kept in check that way. Not so. The soil tests are done initially, and then again three years later when organic certification has been obtained. Even more ridiculous is the blanket rule that a grower must have " in conversion " status for three years after the initial testing procedure. So if you buy land and want to start growing and marketing organic herbs, crops or whatever, you might have bought land that hasn't had chemicals applied to it at all in the previous ten years. Or you might buy land that's had heavy chemical use during that time. The same rule applies. I was shocked to discover this because I'd somehow thought the in conversion status was somehow dependent on the results of chemical residues from the soil tests. I'm not sure if these are the same guidelines for Europe. For me, the sustainability issue is far more crucial than whether a product is " certified " organic or not, especially when I've come to believe that rules and regulations in the main about protecting sizeable corporations (who also make political donations), rather than the consumers they're purported to protect. A friend involved in the permaculture movement here told me some time ago about the terrible effects the demand for organic food is having on some of the producing nations. Because of the demand for organic coffee, for example, some areas in New Guinea are turning their traditional farming land over to producing organic coffee for the almighty dollar. And losing much of their food source as a result. I'd better stop now....... Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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