Mosquito Repellant/ Anti-Bug Lotion

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On May 4, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Butch Owen wrote:

 

> Seems like a Skeeter Off contest would be a good idea.  I have some

> Redneck Frog Gigging buddies who used Catnip last summer .. and will

> again this summer .. it works.  ;-)

 

Lol. Butch I am not disagreeing- just commenting on the odor. It's in

my (adult) bug blend and has been for several years thanks to you very

much. I just hate pouring the stuff, but yes it works.

 

 

Take care-

 

Elizabeth

Whole Life Essentials

http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

 

 

 

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Hey y'all,

 

I'm focusing on mosquito repellents in my comments .. as for repelling

other insects .. matters not a lot to me how folks deal with it.

 

>> So I'll mix (with ref. to Martin Watt's Safety Manual ;-) Catnip,

>> Cedarwood and Lemon Tea Tree oil into the lotion.

>> And I guess I can use the same EO-mix in the oil-diffuser to

>> " de-insecticize " the bedroom?

 

Doesn't work that way .. many repellents are not designed to make bug

critters run for the hills whilst screaming in terror. ;-) What they

do is mask the odor of the victim .. skeeter can't find you.

 

When I spend time on the Mediterranean in summer I always have skeeters

in my room .. no way to keep them out. But we can make them stick to

the wall come night time .. we use a little gadget that plugs into the

wall socket and emits a sound (humans can't hear) that makes the skeeter

afraid to fly.

 

> Beware that (the scent of) Catnip oil absolutely STINKS. There is no

> way I would use it in my home.

 

Personal opinion and personal choice. And not a universal opinion. In

fact .. I don't agree with the opinion. But I think Scotch Whiskey

absolutely STINKS!

 

> There are many insect repellant essential oils and several

> considerations when making a product. Here are a few considerations:

>

> Who is using it?

> Age matters as well as skin sensitivity.

> I would not use the same product in the same dilution for adults and

> children. I would also make it very clear on the label what was safe

> for various ages. You *can* formulate so it can be used by either, but

> you will obviously this is not the same blend you take to the amazon

> for adults. Overkill is not necessary or good however- and you do not

> need a heavy hitting product in many places and for younger, elderly,

> or sensitive individuals. Context matters in other words.

 

First .. I don't think mosquitos are all that prejudiced as to whose

blood they dine on.

 

Secondly .. a lot of guesswork goes into determining what is or is not

safe for various ages .. very little sound data available on this.

 

Finally .. maybe folks are starting off with a bad assumption .. that

is .. that a mosquito repellent should be applied dermally. There is no

reason to do this .. putting it on clothing is sufficient .. and if the

carrier is the correct one .. like Fractionated Coconut .. then there is

no stain and it washes out easily.

 

> Where will it be used?

> In the amazon or in NYC? Or somewhere in between ;-)

 

Hard to say .. I'd rather be bitten my skeeters that had fed on blood of

native Amazonians rather than one who had been dining on some of the New

Yawkers found in this or that alley. ;-)

 

Victoria Linssen posted on two different lists .. and gave me permission

to repeat .. this info. She purchased some Catnip from me prior to her

brother going to the Amazon on a safari .. said he was the ONLY one on

the trip to not suffer from mosquito bites.

 

I have a few dozen other testimonials .. including my own .. and this

information http://www.av-at.com/catnip.html so .. my support for the

use of Catnip is more than personal opinion or marketing.

 

> How strong does it need to be? What kinds of insects are you deterring?

> Some oils are more effective with some than others. Nice to consider

> when blending.

 

Correct .. good questions .. now give the folks the answers. ;-)

 

> Where will it be applied (lot's of safety issues)?

> Skin? Where?

> Hair?

> Clothes?

> Other surface? What kind?

 

All good points .. but what changes would you make based on the answers?

 

> Airborne? How safe to inhale?

 

All products used would be volatile so they would be airborne .. as for

safe inhalation .. I can think of NO essential oil that is not safe!

 

> This is obviously an important consideration when formulating a product

> and considering a base.

> A base also will effect the longevity of the product (and it's

> effectiveness) on the skin.

 

Then use Fractionated Coconut .. the shelf life is unknown because

nobody has ever lived long enough to see it go bad.

 

> Scent and attractiveness:

> There are lot's of options for making a blend- I could literally make

> hundreds of different insect product that are effective. Aromatherapy

> combines art and science ;-) Making a an effective blend that is still

> pleasant and appealing is important. How important? Depends on your

> market. For me it is not something I will compromise, although

> certainly I am not formulating my insect repellant products the way I

> do my natural perfumes. Still, I never leave my nose out of the

> process. Some people may not care what a products smells like, feels,

> like, etc, but most do care. I do make a hard hitting bug blend (for

> adults and older children) that I'm not crazy about the scent- but my

> customer still say they love- I am fussy- very.

 

I don't do blends (thank Gawd) and I am practical - very!

 

>> An article in our newspaper recently said, that now there are

>> plant-based alternatives to DEET available, containing oil of " lemon

>> eucalyptus "

>

> My adult blend contains many essential oils- including Lemon Eucalyptus

> and Lemon Tea Tree.

> There are lot's of oils that work- again- many considerations that go

> into the formulation process.

 

Seems like a Skeeter Off contest would be a good idea. I have some

Redneck Frog Gigging buddies who used Catnip last summer .. and will

again this summer .. it works. ;-)

 

>> Wow, this field is so interesting and exciting, I'm just digging into

>> all websites and books I can get a hand on ;-)

>

> Good idea!! Learning is the key. It is endless.

 

Right .. and there's two kinds of learning .. one is based on marketing

hype and rumor .. common foundations in this industry. The other is

based on facts that can be supported by more than personal opinion ..

like the sort of information found in Martin Watt's publications and in

his AT Correspondence Course.

 

>> Thanks again for your valuable info!

>> * * * * Barbara

>

> Good luck! Have fun and play safe ;-)

 

Right .. and unless you are psychic you can't play safe on dilution

unless you have THE Safety Manual of proven safe dilution .. Plant

Aromatics http://www.av-at.com/plantaromaticsavnp.html

 

> Elizabeth

> Whole Life Essentials

> http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

> Request Free Samples with your order!

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

Wholesale/Retail GC Tested EO, Rose Otto, Tested Hydrosols and other

nice things send from our store in Friendsville, MD. Pop: 597

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We used to live in the mosquito capital of California for several years. I

used tea tree oil like dabbing on perfume - a dab at ears, elbows, wrists,

ankles. I never got another mosquito bite! Miracle stuff, because before I

used to be solid red bumps!

Gayla Roberts

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

goatclearing

http://coloredboers.home.att.net/always.html

-

" Butch Owen " <butchbsi

 

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:16 AM

Mosquito Repellant/ Anti-Bug Lotion

 

 

> Hey y'all,

>

> I'm focusing on mosquito repellents in my comments .. as for repelling

> other insects .. matters not a lot to me how folks deal with it.

>

> >> So I'll mix (with ref. to Martin Watt's Safety Manual ;-) Catnip,

> >> Cedarwood and Lemon Tea Tree oil into the lotion.

> >> And I guess I can use the same EO-mix in the oil-diffuser to

> >> " de-insecticize " the bedroom?

>

> Doesn't work that way .. many repellents are not designed to make bug

> critters run for the hills whilst screaming in terror. ;-) What they

> do is mask the odor of the victim .. skeeter can't find you.

>

> When I spend time on the Mediterranean in summer I always have skeeters

> in my room .. no way to keep them out. But we can make them stick to

> the wall come night time .. we use a little gadget that plugs into the

> wall socket and emits a sound (humans can't hear) that makes the skeeter

> afraid to fly.

>

> > Beware that (the scent of) Catnip oil absolutely STINKS. There is no

> > way I would use it in my home.

>

> Personal opinion and personal choice. And not a universal opinion. In

> fact .. I don't agree with the opinion. But I think Scotch Whiskey

> absolutely STINKS!

>

> > There are many insect repellant essential oils and several

> > considerations when making a product. Here are a few considerations:

> >

> > Who is using it?

> > Age matters as well as skin sensitivity.

> > I would not use the same product in the same dilution for adults and

> > children. I would also make it very clear on the label what was safe

> > for various ages. You *can* formulate so it can be used by either, but

> > you will obviously this is not the same blend you take to the amazon

> > for adults. Overkill is not necessary or good however- and you do not

> > need a heavy hitting product in many places and for younger, elderly,

> > or sensitive individuals. Context matters in other words.

>

> First .. I don't think mosquitos are all that prejudiced as to whose

> blood they dine on.

>

> Secondly .. a lot of guesswork goes into determining what is or is not

> safe for various ages .. very little sound data available on this.

>

> Finally .. maybe folks are starting off with a bad assumption .. that

> is .. that a mosquito repellent should be applied dermally. There is no

> reason to do this .. putting it on clothing is sufficient .. and if the

> carrier is the correct one .. like Fractionated Coconut .. then there is

> no stain and it washes out easily.

>

> > Where will it be used?

> > In the amazon or in NYC? Or somewhere in between ;-)

>

> Hard to say .. I'd rather be bitten my skeeters that had fed on blood of

> native Amazonians rather than one who had been dining on some of the New

> Yawkers found in this or that alley. ;-)

>

> Victoria Linssen posted on two different lists .. and gave me permission

> to repeat .. this info. She purchased some Catnip from me prior to her

> brother going to the Amazon on a safari .. said he was the ONLY one on

> the trip to not suffer from mosquito bites.

>

> I have a few dozen other testimonials .. including my own .. and this

> information http://www.av-at.com/catnip.html so .. my support for the

> use of Catnip is more than personal opinion or marketing.

>

> > How strong does it need to be? What kinds of insects are you deterring?

> > Some oils are more effective with some than others. Nice to consider

> > when blending.

>

> Correct .. good questions .. now give the folks the answers. ;-)

>

> > Where will it be applied (lot's of safety issues)?

> > Skin? Where?

> > Hair?

> > Clothes?

> > Other surface? What kind?

>

> All good points .. but what changes would you make based on the answers?

>

> > Airborne? How safe to inhale?

>

> All products used would be volatile so they would be airborne .. as for

> safe inhalation .. I can think of NO essential oil that is not safe!

>

> > This is obviously an important consideration when formulating a product

> > and considering a base.

> > A base also will effect the longevity of the product (and it's

> > effectiveness) on the skin.

>

> Then use Fractionated Coconut .. the shelf life is unknown because

> nobody has ever lived long enough to see it go bad.

>

> > Scent and attractiveness:

> > There are lot's of options for making a blend- I could literally make

> > hundreds of different insect product that are effective. Aromatherapy

> > combines art and science ;-) Making a an effective blend that is still

> > pleasant and appealing is important. How important? Depends on your

> > market. For me it is not something I will compromise, although

> > certainly I am not formulating my insect repellant products the way I

> > do my natural perfumes. Still, I never leave my nose out of the

> > process. Some people may not care what a products smells like, feels,

> > like, etc, but most do care. I do make a hard hitting bug blend (for

> > adults and older children) that I'm not crazy about the scent- but my

> > customer still say they love- I am fussy- very.

>

> I don't do blends (thank Gawd) and I am practical - very!

>

> >> An article in our newspaper recently said, that now there are

> >> plant-based alternatives to DEET available, containing oil of " lemon

> >> eucalyptus "

> >

> > My adult blend contains many essential oils- including Lemon Eucalyptus

> > and Lemon Tea Tree.

> > There are lot's of oils that work- again- many considerations that go

> > into the formulation process.

>

> Seems like a Skeeter Off contest would be a good idea. I have some

> Redneck Frog Gigging buddies who used Catnip last summer .. and will

> again this summer .. it works. ;-)

>

> >> Wow, this field is so interesting and exciting, I'm just digging into

> >> all websites and books I can get a hand on ;-)

> >

> > Good idea!! Learning is the key. It is endless.

>

> Right .. and there's two kinds of learning .. one is based on marketing

> hype and rumor .. common foundations in this industry. The other is

> based on facts that can be supported by more than personal opinion ..

> like the sort of information found in Martin Watt's publications and in

> his AT Correspondence Course.

>

> >> Thanks again for your valuable info!

> >> * * * * Barbara

> >

> > Good luck! Have fun and play safe ;-)

>

> Right .. and unless you are psychic you can't play safe on dilution

> unless you have THE Safety Manual of proven safe dilution .. Plant

> Aromatics http://www.av-at.com/plantaromaticsavnp.html

>

> > Elizabeth

> > Whole Life Essentials

> > http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

> > Request Free Samples with your order!

>

> Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

>

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> nice things send from our store in Friendsville, MD. Pop: 597

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I've been very busy and have gotten lost with all the replies on this

subject. So I was hoping one could tell me their basic recipe (one a

beginner can do) to repell mosquitos, black flies, and ticks

 

TIA!

Stephanie

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