PIA and Suzanne Catty's presentation-LONG

[Guest guest]

re report on PIA conference.

 

What a shame that so many in aromatherapy do not bother to check out

the real knowledge base of their gurus.

 

Katharine Koeppen said:

>Suzanne Catty is a highly educated, highly experienced clinician<

What that means is open to debate. Suzanne Catty has had no training

in medicine, neither has she undertaken an advanced herbal medicine

course. Yet, her web site and book has/had information on treating

Anthrax; cancer; Viral Hepatitis; Viral encephalitis; polio-myelitis,

etc. She has written a popular novel on hydrosols which apart from a

handful have never been used in traditional medicine - see my web

article on hydrosols for more. Of course she does not like it that

some of the real experts in aromatherapy are men; some of us are not

scared of challenging her b-s like most women in our trade seem to be.

 

Re Dr. Penoel to who catherine referred: The person who advocated

using cinnamon bark oil rectally; the person who claims you can drive

eucalyptus oil into the body using a hair dryer; the person whose

book with Franchomme (which Catty extracts information from) was

partly written by the non medical editors; the person who at one

stage allied himself with Gary Young. What more do I need to say

about him!

 

As to Katherin's comment on Canadian AT standards being higher than

the USA, well what a joke? I suggest people here try reading the

reviews on my web site of the appallingly low standards of courses

run by CFA teachers in Canada. The CFA represents the largest block

of AT training in Canada. That organisation exert no controls on the

standards of their teachers and even have/had a disclaimer on their

web site exonerating them from any such responsibility.

 

Please read the below carefully, particlulary the information on

Anthrax one of the most deadly organisms know to humankind. Do not be

fooled by those who tell you these are just " the opinions of Martin

Watt " . These are FACTS. If Catty undertook these treatments herself,

it would be " practising medicine without a license " in the USA and I

suspect would also be illegal in Canada.

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

==================================

From the Suzanne Catty web page on Basil oil.

 

" Also watch the use of Basil M.C. on people with alcohol in their

blood stream. Even after 24hrs it can cause dermal reactions " .

WHERE IS THE REFERENCE ON THIS CLAIM?

 

Therapeutic properties are many and wide ranging.... Basil deals with

more than just stress!

++ Regulates the sympathetic nervous system

++ Powerful antispasmodic

++++ Antiviral

+++ Anti-inflammatory

+++ Analgesic

++ Digestive problems of all sorts

+++ Viral Hepatitis A & B, and non A & non B

+++ Travel sickness

+++ Antispasmodic

+++ Colitis

+++ Infectious enterocolitis

++ General tonic, stimulant and neurotonic

++ Decongestant for the uterus and prostate

++ Anti-atherosclerosis+ Nervous tension, anxiety

++ Mental fatigue and asthenia

+++ Rheumatoid polyarthritis

+++ Depression, asthenia, fatigue

+++ Viral encephalitis, polio-myelitis

+++ Tropical viral infections

++ Venous decongestant, varicose veins,

circulatory problems

+ No known contra-indications in therapeutic

use.(see text of profile)

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What an utterly ridiculous method of classifying the properties by

using a + sign. This is a classic example of the idiotic nonsense

originating from so called leading French aromatherapists. They

can't produce references to back their claims and so try and baffle

people with these ridiculous signs.

 

Many of the conditions mentioned are serious illnesses. There are

very few aromatherapists that are competently trained to treat them.

If you can't diagnose such conditions then to attempt to remedy them

using essential oils is questionable ethically. How does a therapist

who has no medical diagnostic skills know if things really are

improving, or if it is simply the client saying they feel better?

Anyone can *say* they get wonderful results-that's what drives the

aromatherapy hype machine, but how often does anyone attempt to prove

what they claim?

 

I will not go into each item, but would just ask people to examine

one claim: +++Viral encephalitis, polio-myelitis.

Is Suzanne Catty seriously suggesting that Basil oil can treat such

serious life threatening illnesses, if so this must be the medical

discovery of the Century! I have a huge database on the anti

microbial effects of essential oils, yet I can find no validated

research on the anti viral effects of Basil OIL. I believe that to

even suggest such an action to students, and in the public medium of

an internet site, is an example of the most gross kind of dangerous

irresponsibility we see in aromatherapy.

 

Martin Watt.

=====================

From Suzanne Catty various literature

 

Rosemary verbenone

 

Traditional uses: Stimulating. Astringent. Skin care. Circulation.

Digestive system. Liver.

THERE IS NO TRADITIONAL USE FOR THIS OIL. IT HAS ONLY BEEN ON THE

MARKET A FEW YEARS. THE CLAIMED EFFECTS ON THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM AND

LIVER ARE COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED AND COULD ONLY OCCUR FROM INTERNAL

USE.

SINCE THERE IS NO DATA ON THIS SPECIES, INTERNAL USE WOULD BE FRAUGHT

WITH DANGERS. NO SAFETY DATA ON THIS OIL FROM ANY REPUTABLE SOURCES.

 

Achillea millefolium

Traditional uses: Anti-inflammatory. Antispasmodic. Mucolytic. Wound

healing. Excema. Psoriasis. PMS.

THERE IS NO TRADITIONAL USE FOR THIS *OIL* ONLY THE HERB. ALL THE

CLAIMED EFFECTS ARE GUESSWORK. THERE IS NO SAFETY DATA ON THIS OIL

FROM ANY REPUTABLE SOURCES.

 

Tanacetum annuum from: Morocco

Traditional uses: Tansy is a safe and mild anti-inflammatory with a

delightfully fresh, honeyed apple scent. This oil is known for its

antihistaminic and anti-allergic properties.

THERE IS NO TRADITIONAL USE OF THIS OIL. THE OIL EXPORTED FROM THAT

COUNTRY IS MASSIVELY VARIABLE IN ITS CHEMICAL COMPOSITION BECAUSE A

LOT IS CONTAMINATED WITH ALL KINDS OF WEEDS.

THERE IS NO SAFETY DATA ON THIS OIL FROM ANY REPUTABLE SOURCES. THE

THERAPEUTIC USES ARE PURE INVENTION, MAINLY OF UNSCRUPULOUS FRENCH

AROMATHERAPY CON ARTISTS. THERE IS NO SAFETY DATA ON THIS OIL FROM

ANY REPUTABLE SOURCES.

 

Cinnamon Bark

Traditional uses: Digestive. Anti-infectious. Stimulant. Flavouring.

THIS IS HIGHLY DANGEROUS ADVICE BECAUSE THE IMPRESSION IS THAT BY

USING CINNAMON BARK OIL IT MAY ACT AS A PROPHYLACTIC. THE OIL IS

RESTRICTED IN COSMETICS BECAUSE OF THE HIGH INCIDENCE OF

SENSITIZATION REACTIONS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS DOCUMENTED REPORTS ON THE

DANGERS OF THIS OIL.

 

Ledum groenlandicum

Traditional uses: Detoxifier. Liver suport. Sedative. Insomnia.

Support for cancer treatment.

THERE IS NO TRADITIONAL USE OF THIS OIL. MOST OF THESE EFFECTS ARE

THOSE ATTRIBUTED TO THE HERB TEA. TO SUGGEST THIS OIL CAN SUPPORT

CANCER TREATMENT IS PREPOSTEROUS AND UNFOUNDED. THERE IS NO SAFETY

DATA ON THIS OIL FROM ANY REPUTABLE SOURCES.

 

Blue Balm

Traditional uses: Healing skin ointment made from a blend of Blue

Tansy, Benzoin and Lavendin in an organic oil base.

THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS 2 QUESTIONABLE INGREDIENTS. THE SKIN SAFETY OF

THIS OIL IS UNKNOWN. THE SKIN SAFETY OF BENZOIN IS KNOWN AND IT IS

RESTRICTED IN COSMETIC PRODUCTS BECAUSE OF ITS SENSITIZING ABILITIES

WHICH ARE WELL DOCUMENTED.

 

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HYDROSOLS PROMOTED FOR *INTERNAL USE* AND SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS-

SEE ASTERISKS. THESE PRODUCTS ARE PROMOTED BY THIS COMPANY AS NOT

CONTAINING PRESERVATIVES. IF NOT THEY COULD BE CONTAMINATED WITH

MICROBES. IF THEY DO, THEN IT IS MISLEADING ADVERTISING.

 

Frankincense (Boswellia carterii):

 

 

Myrrh (Commiphora molmol):

Myrrh (Note Hydrosol) can also be used all over the body for washing

wounds that are slow to healand is particularly useful for **ulcers

associated with diabetes**.

 

Opoponax (Commiphora erythraea):

 

Calendula marigold (Calendula officianalis): Finally a true hydrosol

of Calendula exists.  It is impossible to distill the fresh plant so,

this one is made by hydro-distilling a gorgeous, unctuous concrete

extraction and the results are amazing.

AS A PERFUMERY CONCRETE IS PRODUCED USING PETRO CHEMICAL SOLVENTS

THEN THE DISTILATE MAY WELL CONTAIN TRACES OF THESE SOLVENTS.

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Mosquitos, ****West Nile**** and Aromatherapy

 

Human protection includes common sense. 

Hybrid lavender, also called lavendin has proved effective on its own

and in combinations with other essential oils.  Lavender and lavendin

are both cooling to the body and lower body temperatures are less

attractive to mosquitos.  Peppermint and some of the eucalyptus

species will also cool the skin as will coconut oil used as a carrier

oil.  Combining cooling oils and insect repelling oils will give you

a good, effective blend that can be used all summer long on the whole

family.  ******Dilute the essential oils in an appropriate carrier,

you will need 10%-30% essential oils depending on your combinations

and the severity of insects in your area. *******

THIS IS SIMPLY OUTRAGEOUS AND FLIES IN THE FACE OF ALL

INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED SAFETY DATA ON ESSENTIAL OILS

 

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Herbs, Essential Oils and Anthrax, by CJ Puotinen

 

SEE SUGGESTIONS BY CATTY FOR USING ESSENTIAL OILS TO TREAT ANTHRAX.

THIS IS DANGEROUS AND HIGHLY MISLEADING QUACK MEDICINE AND POSES A

THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

 

Aromatherapist Suzanne Catty of Toronto, Canada, has studied medical

aromatherapy in Europe and the U.S. Her company, Acqua Vita, supplies

therapeutic-quality essential oils, and she is the author of

Hydrosols: The Next Aromatherapy (Healing Arts Press, 2001). Suzanne

Catty kindly shared the following information regarding anthrax,

suggesting an approach that combines protection and treatment on a

number of levels.

 

Catty lists the following essential oils as potentially effective

against aerial or inhaled B. anthracis: clove bud (A), cinnamon leaf

(A+, a " must " ), Eucalyptus globulus (A), tea tree (A), Niaouli

chemotype viridifloral and chemotype cineole (A), thyme chemotype

thymol (A), balsam fir (B), lemon, bergamot, and petitgrain (B,

supportive to other more powerful oils), purple bee balm (B), sage

(B), and winter savory (A).

 

" Combine at least five of these oils, " she suggests, " three from the

A list and two from the B list. Diffuse this blend into your

environment or place on a tissue and inhale for at least 60 seconds,

three or more times per day. A good way to inhale is to place one

drop of the blend in your palm, rub your hands together, then cover

your mouth and nose with your hands and inhale. This simple method is

very powerful. I have used this technique on airplanes for many

years. You can also add this blend to your dish soap, hand soap, or

dishwasher, or place drops on the ventilation system outlets in your

home, office, or car.

 

****To prevent or treat cutaneous (skin) anthrax,**** Catty

recommends a blend of palmarosa, niaouli, lemon, tea tree, thyme

chemotype thuyanol or saturieoides, and black spruce. " Make a blend

of these oils and apply it to the whole body every morning after your

shower, " she suggests. To do this, spread 10-15 drops of the blend on

wet skin and allow it to air-dry, avoiding mucus membranes. If you

find this too intense, dilute it 50 percent with a body lotion or a

good oil like jojoba. You may also add 50 drops to each 1/4 cup of

liquid hand soap or hand cream and use it frequently throughout the

day, especially before and after eating, shopping, or handling

newspapers, cash, or mail. If you have any cuts, scratches, or open

wounds, apply 1 drop of undiluted tea tree oil three to five times

per day to prevent bacteria from entering the wound. "

 

For thorough prophylactic protection, Catty recommends the following

essential oils: cinnamon bark, oregano, thyme chemotype thymol, thyme

chemotype thuyanol, Eucalyptus radiata, niaouli, ravansara, winter

savory, tea tree, lemon, peppermint, and black spruce. " I make blends

of these oils in varying amounts for a variety of conditions and have

sent clients traveling all over the planet with these oils to protect

them, " she says. " So far, so good. All of these oils are powerful and

are the closest things to `anti-biotics' that we have from nature.

Besides being specifically effective against the same `type' of

bacteria as anthrax, most of the essential oils in this group have

shown significant anti-viral effects. They may also provide a complex

system of attack against the bacteria helping to defeat the phagocyte

resistance that anthrax and some other bacteria exhibit. A blend of

these oils can be taken internally, one drop three to five times

daily. Do not be tempted to take more than this recommended dose.

Less is more with these substances, and they will work with your

body's natural immune system. ****Excessive consumption****** will

not lead to greater levels of protection. If I were working on the

cleanup crew at the World Trade Center, I might take six drops per

day, but not more. Three to five is more than enough. I do not

recommend the oils in this last group for application to the skin,

for they can be irritating, even in dilution. However, they would

also be effective in aerial diffusion. *****But they taste really

good******and work well internally, so why not use them that way?

 

, aromaceuticals <aromaceu@e...>

wrote:

>

> Suzanne Catty's presentation was one of the better ones in what was

overall a very diasappointing conference, and not what I've grown to

expect from PIA (I've attended all but the first conference). I think

Kathleen misunderstood what Suzanne was trying to convey by reading

only the proceedings and not being present for her speech. Most

speakers in fact (and unfortunately) did not stick to their comments

as presented in the proceedings. Whatever you may think of Suzanne,

she is a highly educated, highly experienced clinician ...............

[Guest guest]

People have theories - they vary from person to person based on their own

experiences. There are NO absolutes - ever - oops, was that an absolute?

 

I would love to understand why there is so much attacking involved in this

industry. There is so much negative, non-supportive behaviour that I have

witnessed. I really don't care about Young Living - if it is helping some

people, why should I? I think there are bigger evils out there in the allopathic

world that should be targeted. I believe in safety standards but I also believe

you can go too far with them to the point of limiting the profession.

 

As for this comment:

>As to Katherin's comment on Canadian AT standards being higher than

>the USA, well what a joke?

 

 

It is likely that the standards are the same in both contries. I am a certified

aromatologist recognized by the CFA (Canada). I thought the course was extremely

thorough and I gained invaluable knowledge from it. The anatomy portion was

especially gruelling covering all systems. I actually failed the exam initially

which was a huge shocker. It was a 6 month course. Maybe it should be longer but

there is only so much you can expect when graduating offers very little in the

way of earned income afterwards. I found the course to be at the same level as

any university courses that I have taken.

 

Jessica

 

P.S. I am currently in awe of the way putting essential oil on a cotton ball and

inserting in the ear can combat congestion. I used cypress for jet lag and

eucalyptus globulus for the beginnings of a 'change of season' cold.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, Jessica Burman

<cocoonjessica> wrote:

> People have theories - they vary from person to person based on

their own experiences. There are NO absolutes - ever - oops, was

that an absolute?

>

> I would love to understand why there is so much attacking involved

in this industry. There is so much negative, non-supportive

behaviour that I have witnessed.<

 

If you've never experienced a negative reaction due to injudicious

use of the oils then you may never understand the 'attacking'

and 'non-supportive' behavior within AT. (There a LOT of people who

start using the oils indiscriminately based on things they've read

in AT books, well before they've had a chance to actually speak with

others with experience.)

If you or a loved one ever endure a negative reaction to an oil (or

oils) then you'll probably be right out there speaking your truth as

well.

I hope this helps you understand the 'other' side a little more. :-)

 

>I really don't care about Young Living - if it is helping some

people, why should I? I think there are bigger evils out there in

the allopathic world that should be targeted. I believe in safety

standards but I also believe you can go too far with them to the

point of limiting the profession.<

 

The deliberate lies and hype from this company cause more harm than

good to aromatherapy in the long run. (If you can cure scoliosis

with RDT I'll give you *One Million Dollars*!)

 

Take care,

Stacey biting her finger ala Dr. Evil in Austin Powers

[Guest guest]

Jessica

 

>There are NO absolutes - ever<

Of course there are absolutes. Are you suggesting that if someone

comes along and tells us it is perfectly safe using cinnamon bark oil

on the skin, when the solid evidence is it very harmful indeed, that

this is simply someone's opinion. If so you have a very strange

concept of right and wrong.

 

>I would love to understand why there is so much attacking involved<

>in this industry.<

 

That's easy to answer. It is because you are dealing with a trade

that is bursting at the seams with confidence tricksters, including

people some who have been in jail for that activity. I feel very

sorry for your clients if you are unable to distinguish between

accurate provable information, and incorrect information than can

cause real harm.

 

In regards Young Living, how the heck do you know " they are helping

people " . There are absolutely no monitoring systems within

aromatherapy to ascertain this. Simply sniffing an essential oil can

make you feel great and I am sure many in Young Living will find

this. However, on the other hand, we have sound evidence that this

organisation has caused people real harm because of them not giving a

damn about well known safety issues. Have you even bothered to read

the available information on what a lying cheating con artist that

Gary Young is? Have you even considered why it is that the many

people in the USA who have said the same about him have never been

sued? Think about that please.

 

>I am a certified aromatologist recognized by the CFA (Canada).<

>I thought the course was extremely thorough<

Clearly in that case you do not have the ability to be able to judge

between hype and sound information. I have complaints from several

dissatisfied CFA school students, but more importantly, have you read

my review of the course notes on my web site. If after reading that

you are still unable to recognise right from wrong, then you should

not be involved with treating peoples health problems.

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

 

, Jessica Burman

<cocoonjessica> wrote:

> People have theories - they vary from person to person based on

their own experiences. There are NO absolutes - ever - oops, was that

an absolute?

>

> I would love to understand why there is so much attacking involved

in this industry. There is so much negative, non-supportive behaviour

that I have witnessed. I really don't care about Young Living - if it

is helping some people, why should I? I think there are bigger evils

out there in the allopathic world that should be targeted. I believe

in safety standards but I also believe you can go too far with them

to the point of limiting the profession.

>

> As for this comment:

> >As to Katherin's comment on Canadian AT standards being higher

than

> >the USA, well what a joke?

>

>

> It is likely that the standards are the same in both contries. I am

a certified aromatologist recognized by the CFA (Canada). I thought

the course was extremely thorough and I gained invaluable knowledge

from it. The anatomy portion was especially gruelling covering all

systems. I actually failed the exam initially which was a huge

shocker. It was a 6 month course. Maybe it should be longer but there

is only so much you can expect when graduating offers very little in

the way of earned income afterwards. I found the course to be at the

same level as any university courses that I have taken.

>

> Jessica

>

> P.S. I am currently in awe of the way putting essential oil on a

cotton ball and inserting in the ear can combat congestion. I used

cypress for jet lag and eucalyptus globulus for the beginnings of

a 'change of season' cold.

>