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Hi everyone...

 

It's been quite some time since I've posted to the group, but it seems

lately I barely have time to read the digests. I am in need of some serious

assistance.

 

My family has come down with the worst flu imaginable...first my hubby (who

is now better), then my son and I woke up this morning with really high

fevers. Mine is 103.5 at present...his is 102.7. I am trying not to resort

to OTC meds as they don't agree with me, but with this high fever, I'm

beginning to worry. I am out of Butch's wonderful Oregano...normally, I

would put a drop in my chicken soup to kill this thing. I was wondering if

any of you have any suggestions...we are taking a homeopathic remedy

strictly for flu symptoms...I can't pronounce the name, but it starts with

an 'O'. We are drinking alot of 'Emergen-C' that I got from the health food

store...I have been taking Echinacea/Goldenseal, and my son is taking the

Vi-Protection blend from Herbs for kids. And I just got out of a lukewarm

bath. Nothing seems to be working.

 

I do have Lemon Myrtle and know that it will kill just about anything...I

use it for my disinfectant. I was wondering if it would be safe to put 1

drop in some honey and mix with warm water for a tea? I am desperate

now....I have never felt so bad!!!

 

Can any of you wonderful and knowledgeable people give me any suggestions??

Please reply privately as I am on digest mode.

 

Thank you!

Kati in NC

 

 

 

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Feel better Katy and family!

 

This is what my doc recommends (he's anthroposophic) .. Followed by an

article featuring my doc :) Actually in the groups files section there

is a folder called " Articles by Dr. Incao " and in there are several

articles by him that you might want to read ...

http://finance.

 

We're on the road to recovery here now, but I am so behind everything I

have to do at this point - and its stressful enough to get me right back

into bed to hide from my chores ;-p To be honest, that's my biggest

problem - STRESS, and letting it get to me. I have to re-learn how to

truly relax every day, even for a little while ;)

 

*Hugs*

Chris (list mom)

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

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http://www.anthroposophy.org.nz/Sections/Medical/nursing/FeverBootsOrLem

onLegCompress.htm

 

FEVER BOOTS or LEMON LEG COMPRESS

These are applied to the calves to help bring a temperature down or to

guide a fever.

To Make: long strips of cotton sheeting are rolled up as bandages. You

need enough to wrap both legs from toe to knee. These will be covered

with woolen cloth, eg; scarves or big wool socks.

 

Preparation of Lemon: into a bowl half full with warm water (not cold or

hot) place one lemon in and hold this under water while cutting in half,

slicing through the flesh and pith of the lemon. Also scratch the skin

all over to release the lemon oil into the water. Finish pressing out

all the juice. In this way you now have the active substances which help

guide the heat from the head down into the limbs.

 

Soak the bandages thoroughly in the lemon water, wring out a little and

wrap both feet and calves from toe to knee in the boots. Cover with

socks or woolen cloths.

Leave on for half an hour or if dry take off sooner.

 

Reapply again and as necessary but never to cold feet.

 

If temperature remains at 39C paracetamol would be advised.

 

Remember, never apply to cold feet.

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et1097/et1097s6.html

 

Anthroposophic medicine: letting your body work for you

A medical practice that won't interfere with the body's natural healing

process

by Linda C. Puig

 

Conventional medicine's obsession with suppressing infectious disease or

eradicating it through vaccinations may end up hurting us and our

children more than we know, according to Dr. Philip Incao, a medical

doctor from Denver.

 

According to Incao, infectious diseases whether a stomach flu, measles

or bronchitis help our bodies to discharge. And this discharge of energy

is critical to achieving a necessary balance in the body. Without the

discharge, our bodies end up storing and internalizing disease, leading

to a greater incidence of chronic disease.

" As long as we think of it as an infection with germs invading us, then

that blinds us to the true nature of it, " Incao says.

Incao practices what is known as anthroposophic medicine, a form of

holistic medicine little known in the United States but far more widely

appreciated and used in Europe. Anthroposophic medicine looks at illness

as an opportunity for new balance and self development.

 

Anthroposophic medicine is an extension of conventional Western medicine

developed in the 1920s by Dr. Rudolf Steiner, an Austrian scientist,

educator, artist and philosopher, in conjunction with European

physicians (Steiner also founded Waldorf education). There are about 50

practitioners in the United States, all M.D.s or D.O.s, plus many nurses

and adjunctive therapists. In European countries there are thousands of

such practitioners, plus several hospitals in Germany and Switzerland

devoted exclusively to anthroposophic medicine.

 

Anthroposophic doctors look at human beings as more than simply

mechanical beings: they are bodies with a life force, a soul and a

spirit. The doctor's task is " to read the body's signs and symptoms that

give an understanding of how, in specific ways, the spirit energy works

in the human body, " Incao says.

In anthroposophic medicine, health results not from the absence of

illness, as in conventional medicine, but from a good balance between

the head (which has a cooling, contracting, forming energy) and the

body's lower region, which includes most of the internal organs and has

a warming, expanding, dissolving energy. Inflammation originates in the

lower region; chronic disease, such as cancer, asthma and autoimmune

illnesses, originates in the head region.

 

It is that balance between the tendency to discharge and the tendency to

internalize, or store, that must be maintained, Incao says. That's why

he advocates against heavy antibiotic use and virtually all

vaccinations. Both suppress or repress completely infectious diseases,

thereby not allowing the body to discharge. What results is more chronic

disease.

At least in part, this is what is behind the nearly four-fold increase

since 1960 in the rate of chronic, disabling disease in children under

age 17, Incao says. According to statistics from the 1994 National

Health Interview Survey, issued from the U.S. Department of Health

& Human Services, 6.7 percent of children in 1994 had chronic diseases,

up from 1.8 percent in 1960.

 

Conventional medicine seems to be starting to understand the

relationship between inflammation and chronic disease, Incao says,

pointing to two recent articles in mainstream scientific journals. A

January 1997 Science magazine article posed the question, is asthma an

epidemic in the absence of infection? In it, immunologists explored the

notion that not exercising the immune system enough may be causing more

allergic reactions.

 

The British medical journal Lancet looked at the hypothesis that Gulf

War syndrome came about because of an imbalance between T-helper 1

cells, which are active when infection is present, and T-helper 2 cells,

which are active when allergies are present. Gulf War soldiers received

numerous vaccinations before going to the region.

Incao, a doctor for more than 25 years, believes that vaccinations are

one of today's most urgent and pressing problems.

" I think we're going to harm a whole future generation, " he says. " You

don't make any child healthy by giving them a vaccination. It's like

saying the way to make your garden healthy is to eradicate every single

bug. "

 

Similarly, the overuse of antibiotics can have a devastating effect on

our health, Incao says, because they suppress the body's attempt to

discharge. He gives the example of a smoker who quits and gets

bronchitis. This is a natural reaction of the body, no longer burdened

by constant smoke, to rid itself of the accumulated tar and other junk

in the lungs. Antibiotics would suppress that reaction. The remedies

used in anthroposophic medicine, extensions of homeopathic remedies,

assist in the healing process by helping the immune system to digest,

dissolve and discharge from the body anything foreign (such as tobacco

tar, parasites or cancer cells) that disturbs the body's healthy

balance.

As a culture, we have become afraid of this healing response to illness.

It is this fear which drives the medical industry today fear, and

absolute trust in the authority of doctors that leads us to not think

for ourselves.

 

Of course, there are appropriate times to give antibiotics, Incao says.

It is not the goal of anthroposophic medicine to ignore any of the

Western medical advances of the past century. Rather, it seeks to

combine ancient medical and spiritual wisdom with a modern rational,

logical thinking approach.

This kind of approach finally makes it possible to understand such

things as spontaneous remission, or the " placebo effect, " or how

homeopathy works.

" We want to use the same logical, rational thinking and fill it out with

spiritual content, " Incao says.

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

 

Kati Toney [tktoney]

 

Hi everyone...

 

It's been quite some time since I've posted to the group, but it seems

lately I barely have time to read the digests. I am in need of some

serious

assistance.

 

My family has come down with the worst flu imaginable...first my hubby

(who

is now better), then my son and I woke up this morning with really high

fevers. Mine is 103.5 at present...his is 102.7. I am trying not to

resort

to OTC meds as they don't agree with me, but with this high fever, I'm

beginning to worry. I am out of Butch's wonderful Oregano...normally, I

would put a drop in my chicken soup to kill this thing. I was wondering

if

any of you have any suggestions...we are taking a homeopathic remedy

strictly for flu symptoms...I can't pronounce the name, but it starts

with

an 'O'. We are drinking alot of 'Emergen-C' that I got from the health

food

store...I have been taking Echinacea/Goldenseal, and my son is taking

the

Vi-Protection blend from Herbs for kids. And I just got out of a

lukewarm

bath. Nothing seems to be working.

 

I do have Lemon Myrtle and know that it will kill just about

anything...I

use it for my disinfectant. I was wondering if it would be safe to put 1

drop in some honey and mix with warm water for a tea? I am desperate

now....I have never felt so bad!!!

 

Can any of you wonderful and knowledgeable people give me any

suggestions??

Please reply privately as I am on digest mode.

 

Thank you!

Kati in NC

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