Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Hi folks ... Sigh. Any tips for a wrist fx? Its been seen & splinted by an MD, but it hurts like heck b/c I have a very active, nursing & teething 9m/o DD (thank god for my sling!). I'm using homeopathics but can anyone else recommend stuff I may be able to find at my local HFS? Thanks for everything, Melissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Dear Melissa, About 21 years ago give or take a few months, I had the same problem as you had except I had it in both wrists. I went to every Orthapedic doctor in Dallas, Texas and was told to take drugs (even though I was nursing a young baby) and that they would have to operate on both wrists when my son became a little older. Also, they told me that I was NEVER going to be able to write or do anything with my wrists and hands again. A couple of days later I happened to be at my favorite health food/herb store for vitamins and asked the herbalist who owned the place if he could help. He marched me over to the shelf and took out three different things: 1) for pain, 2) for getting rid of the inflamation and swelling and returning my wrists back to normal, and 3) something for me to sleep with. Three days later I had NO PAIN, three weeks later I had USE of BOTH of MY Wrists. However I stayed on his suggested herbs for a year just to be safe. I later asked him what was the main herb that helped me to get use of my wrists and he told me that it was the OATSTRAW and that the other two were to give me relief. To this day I still make my own oatstraw tinctures and creams for problems such as what you have. You find you some oatstraw tea and make your own tincture. I used about 15 to 20 drops three times per day and more if I needed it. Good luck! I've been where you have been and it is no fun but remember that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Rhavda Emison Scents of Success (http://www.scentsofsuccess.com) Texas Grown - USA Made Rose Oil & Aromatherapy Products Rose, Helichrysum, Oak Moss, Melissa & Other Aromatherapy Products >Hi folks ... >Sigh. Any tips for a wrist fx? Its been seen & splinted by an MD, but it >hurts like heck b/c I have a very active, nursing & teething 9m/o DD (thank god >for my sling!). I'm using homeopathics but can anyone else recommend stuff I >may be able to find at my local HFS? >Thanks for everything, >Melissa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 fx? What is that? Seriously--I'm interested because I read the other post - in answer to this - where it was suggested that you use oatstraw. I have had an ongoing pain in my wrist, and the anti- inflammatories are gone, but the pain remains.....just wondering if we have the same ailment and I've been too stubborn to go back to the doc.... And about this oatstraw....any good online source for it? I live in a hfs-challenged part of the world (NJ - lol), and I doubt very much my little county hfs has this stuff. Thanks! Cindy , Mafeb@a... wrote: > Hi folks ... > Sigh. Any tips for a wrist fx? Its been seen & splinted by an MD, but it hurts like heck b/c I have a very active, nursing & teething 9m/o DD (thank god for my sling!). I'm using homeopathics but can anyone else recommend stuff I may be able to find at my local HFS? > Thanks for everything, > Melissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Sorry - that's shorthand for wrist fracture! Melissa In a message dated 3/9/2005 2:39:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: fx? What is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Ah! So what my wrist pain is not is that. Thanks for the clarification. Cindy - Sorry - that's shorthand for wrist fracture! Melissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I had no idea oat straw could be that potent! Great. How about poultices of comfrey? Poultices of Pascalite? From my rainforest pantry, Recovazon both as gel and in capsules has speeded up healing for many folks. Ien in the Kootenays *************************** Good planets are hard to find. Let's look after this one! One way to sustainable activism http://theforestpath.com *************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 A while back Cindy wrote: Ah! So what my wrist pain is not is that. (fracture)> Cindy, could it be carpal tunnel syndrome? Have you tried Vitamin B6 and magnesium? The Chinese acupressure points can also be very helpful. A friend of mine cured her own carpal tunnel syndrome with it. This book should be in every house: Acupressure's Potent Points Michael Reed Gach, publ.Bantam. Aimed at people who know nothing. Clear, no nonsense illustrations. Ien in the Kootenays *************************** Good planets are hard to find. Let's look after this one! One way to sustainable activism http://theforestpath.com *************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Hi there- I'm not an ortho, but that sounds like either a bone spur or a misdiagnosed ganglion cyst or neuroma. Its worth seeing an ortho MD (specifically a hand surgeon) to get a firm diagnosis b/c neuromas & ganglions can be treated homeopathically. I recommend a hand surgeon b/c they are the only ones who REALLY know the hand/wrist ... you cn just go in for diagnosis, you don't need to agree to anything they recommend - injections etc - if you aren't comfortable w/it. I worked w/orthos for years & wrist ganglions & neuromas were ***extremely*** common but often misdiagnosed. Also, a bone spur would be causing internal inflammation & irritation. I'd get a firm ortho diagnosis and then take that to a naturopath. Best wishes, Melissa In a message dated 3/13/2005 7:33:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: Nope - the doc already ruled out carpel tunnel. This is on the outside of my wrist - where that little bone sticks out, ya know? Well it seems to be " growing " another little bone sticking out, and I never injured it (as far as I know - who knows WHAT I do in my sleep--lol). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Nope - the doc already ruled out carpel tunnel. This is on the outside of my wrist - where that little bone sticks out, ya know? Well it seems to be " growing " another little bone sticking out, and I never injured it (as far as I know - who knows WHAT I do in my sleep--lol). I bought the oatstraw tea and the lady in the HFS recommended MSM. We'll see. Perhaps I'll go back and get the magnesium and B6, too - can't hurt, right? I'd really rather NOT go back to the doc. Actually, it wasn't even the doc - it was a PA. Thanks! Cindy - Cindy, could it be carpal tunnel syndrome? Have you tried Vitamin B6 and magnesium? The Chinese acupressure points can also be very helpful. A friend of mine cured her own carpal tunnel syndrome with it. This book should be in every house: Acupressure's Potent Points Michael Reed Gach, publ.Bantam. Aimed at people who know nothing. Clear, no nonsense illustrations. Ien in the Kootenays *************************** Good planets are hard to find. Let's look after this one! One way to sustainable activism http://theforestpath.com *************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 My son just had a ganglion cyst surgically removed this past Thursday. It was located on his outside ankle. The dr was surprised after he got in there and found it to be HUGE and was also growing down between his bones on his foot. This is what has been causing my son so much discomfort. Immediately after surgery, even though he had a 4 " incision, he said his foot felt better. He could already tell the difference...So, better be safe than sorry and have your wrist checked out by someone more qualified than a PA. An orthopedic surgeon did the surgery on my son. Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 I don't like the sounds of that - lol. I guess I'll have to call tomorrow morning and insist on a referral. I think you're probably right about the mis-diagnosis - she wasn't even a doctor! That's why I'm reluctant to go back. I'm not afraid of doctors, but I've found that they rarely have the doctor look in on you unless you're practically dying - guess that's what insurance does. : ( Thanks, and I'll take your advice. I'm still going to drink that tea - it was pretty expensive for something that tastes like nothing! lol [wondering if I could take the tea out of the little baggies and make soap....hmmmmm] Cindy - I'm not an ortho, but that sounds like either a bone spur or a misdiagnosed ganglion cyst or neuroma. Its worth seeing an ortho MD (specifically a hand surgeon) to get a firm diagnosis b/c neuromas & ganglions can be treated homeopathically. I recommend a hand surgeon b/c they are the only ones who REALLY know the hand/wrist ... you cn just go in for diagnosis, you don't need to agree to anything they recommend - injections etc - if you aren't comfortable w/it. I worked w/orthos for years & wrist ganglions & neuromas were ***extremely*** common but often misdiagnosed. Also, a bone spur would be causing internal inflammation & irritation. I'd get a firm ortho diagnosis and then take that to a naturopath. Best wishes, Melissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 I don't post much but this sounds to me like a ganglion cyst (sp??) I've had them and my son had one when he was little from playing with Legos too much. When he cut back on his Legos, the cyst would go away. Actually, a good hard bump (painful) will make it go away, too. Usually they go away with time, sometimes, they do surgery. I had one on the inside of my thumb right at the base that required surgery (it was like trigger finger on my thumb). HTH JanG Pittstown Soapworks, LLC wrote: > I don't like the sounds of that - lol. I guess I'll have to call > tomorrow morning and insist on a referral. I think you're probably > right about the mis-diagnosis - she wasn't even a doctor! That's why > I'm reluctant to go back. I'm not afraid of doctors, but I've found > that they rarely have the doctor look in on you unless you're > practically dying - guess that's what insurance does. > that to a naturopath. > > Best wishes, > Melissa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 That really sounds nasty. I hope it's not, but if it's that easy to fix - where's my danged hammer? LOL Cindy (yes, it's VERY painful, and I'm also left-handed, making it even worse, since it's my left wrist) : ( - I don't post much but this sounds to me like a ganglion cyst (sp??) I've had them and my son had one when he was little from playing with Legos too much. When he cut back on his Legos, the cyst would go away. Actually, a good hard bump (painful) will make it go away, too. Usually they go away with time, sometimes, they do surgery. I had one on the inside of my thumb right at the base that required surgery (it was like trigger finger on my thumb). HTH JanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I had forgotten about that ... we had a PA in our ortho office who was as good if not better than an MD. He had a pt w/a ganglion who refused any kind of invasive treatment ...went home and had his wife whack it with a heavy book. It worked for him, but the PA asked him to please not repeat it in the future as he didn't feel like treating a wrist fx or tendon damage if his wife missed or got over zealous ;-) DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME! melissa In a message dated 3/14/2005 7:35:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: Actually, a good hard bump (painful) will make it go away, too. Usually they go away with time, sometimes, they do surgery. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 First off, haven't been at my computer, so sorry if this has been covered beforehand. Pittstown Soapworks, LLC wrote: >Nope - the doc already ruled out carpel tunnel. This is on the outside of my wrist - where that little bone sticks out, ya know? Well it seems to be " growing " another little bone sticking out, and I never injured it (as far as I know - who knows WHAT I do in my sleep--lol). > > sounds like http://www.medformation.com/ac/crssma.nsf/file/crs-sma-sma_triangular.fibrocarti\ lage.complex which is what I've got as a cashier.... sometimes things like that can happen even doing just one small movement repetitively. Physio helped, but I've found that alternating therapy really helped...... things I do are: parafin baths comfrey root poultices wrist splints at night or when my wrists are sore wrist stretch exercises and strengthening exercises. Now, if you are dealing with a major tear in the triangular cartilage area, or there is boney growth there, you may HAVE to have surgery to fix it... and it will be something you have to deal with for the rest of your life (I've been dealing with it for over 4 years now). The good thing about it is that you get to know the warning signs so much better.... I can feel when my wrists are going to act up, and know when I have to wear my splints as a preventative at work. Four years later, I can say that I have had months of almost feeling normal :-) I just have to be careful about how I do things, and try to not do too many things to aggravate my wrists (type vs write .... for me; careful on how I lift things etc). The great thing is that you have the ability to make such great stuff for yourself, esp with the help of the group..... herbal balms, compresses etc. I'm hoping that you find the best thing for your condition too!!! Don't dispair (I know I hated not being able to do the things I used to)... things do get better! Shelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Pittstown Soapworks, LLC wrote: >Thanks, Shelley - I'm actually waiting for the blasted $($ & )%(* & % " doctor " to call me back. I called early this morning and they said they'd have to call me back to see " if " they would give me a referral. I don't see the point in going back to the same " doctor " when they misdiagnosed me the FIRST time. >: ( > >Cindy > > Up here, it takes 6 months to a year to get into see the specialist... my injury was work related, so it only took three months, then approx 6 months to get the surgery. Be aware that a specialist will probably want to get an mri (I couldn't due to having previous operations on my ears and metal implants), this is one way they will know what exactly is the cause of your pain. Do try comfrey root poultices... I found that helped with the inflammation as much as the gadgets my physiotherapist used (forget the gadgets names :-) Rest those wrists in the meantime! Take good care, and if you want to vent at anyone who knows what you're going through, feel free to email me offlist ;-) Shelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Pardon my ignorance, but what are comfrey root poultices? Would I find that in the HFS? I am now waiting the referral to the specialist - could take up 'til Wednesday, but I'm optimistic because I told them if I don't hear back soon I would call the ins-co myself. lol Cindy - Up here, it takes 6 months to a year to get into see the specialist... my injury was work related, so it only took three months, then approx 6 months to get the surgery. Be aware that a specialist will probably want to get an mri (I couldn't due to having previous operations on my ears and metal implants), this is one way they will know what exactly is the cause of your pain. Do try comfrey root poultices... I found that helped with the inflammation as much as the gadgets my physiotherapist used (forget the gadgets names :-) Rest those wrists in the meantime! Take good care, and if you want to vent at anyone who knows what you're going through, feel free to email me offlist ;-) Shelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Paraffin baths can be a lot of help--I don't know if it's possible to substitute a non-petroleum wax for the paraffin without risking burns but a quick check of melting points would tell someone that. My bath kit cost the person who got it for me for Christmas about $30 and I add the EO's I use in my sports rub to it to help with the pain. I used to go to a massage therapist for treatments that cost $20 a pop. HTH, Serra -- For more of the cranky me: http://scentedstuff.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Pittstown Soapworks, LLC wrote: >Pardon my ignorance, but what are comfrey root poultices? Would I find that in the HFS? > > > from the group... I searched back 1/2 way through the archives and there wasn't anything in the file section on comfrey.... here is an interesting article Chris posted on poultices though: message # 23892 http://finance./message/23892 from the net: comfrey root oil and comfrey uses http://www.ivillage.co.uk/print/0,,182295,00.html good stuff here too http://www.geocities.com/tominelpaso/herb.txt I make a comfrey root poultice for both wrists by putting 1 tbsp of dried powder into a small bowl, blending with olive oil until it is a smooth paste, and then adding hot to the touch hot water (hottest water out of your tap will do) ... about twice as much water to what you have of comfrey root and oil... if you don't add enough, you'll have one big spoonful of musilege (snot)... if you add too much water, don't worry, it'll thicken.. you can sprinkle on more comfrey root powder, bit by bit blending until it is a smooth spoonable paste (same thickness as a milkshake).... put that onto your wrists and secure with paper towels or clean cloth and then an elastic bandage. Keep on overnight. Make sure to extend where you apply the poultice towards your elbows where your tendons travel.... I usually go from the outside, under and overtop of my wrist, and then from the outside to the accupunture point just below the elbow (ontop of the arm).... I've found that an old sock with the toe cut out and a slit for my thumb makes a good alternative for an elastic bandage too :-) HTH Shelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Thanks again, Shelley! I must have missed that post. Cindy - from the group... I searched back 1/2 way through the archives and there wasn't anything in the file section on comfrey.... here is an interesting article Chris posted on poultices though: message # 23892 http://finance./message/23892 from the net: comfrey root oil and comfrey uses http://www.ivillage.co.uk/print/0,,182295,00.html good stuff here too http://www.geocities.com/tominelpaso/herb.txt I make a comfrey root poultice for both wrists by putting 1 tbsp of dried powder into a small bowl, blending with olive oil until it is a smooth paste, and then adding hot to the touch hot water (hottest water out of your tap will do) ... about twice as much water to what you have of comfrey root and oil... if you don't add enough, you'll have one big spoonful of musilege (snot)... if you add too much water, don't worry, it'll thicken.. you can sprinkle on more comfrey root powder, bit by bit blending until it is a smooth spoonable paste (same thickness as a milkshake).... put that onto your wrists and secure with paper towels or clean cloth and then an elastic bandage. Keep on overnight. Make sure to extend where you apply the poultice towards your elbows where your tendons travel.... I usually go from the outside, under and overtop of my wrist, and then from the outside to the accupunture point just below the elbow (ontop of the arm).... I've found that an old sock with the toe cut out and a slit for my thumb makes a good alternative for an elastic bandage too :-) HTH Shelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 This may sound a little gross, anyway, I had a ganglion cyst and it kept getting bigger and bigger. Well, one day I was sitting on the patio with a hammer in my hand that I had been using so I smacked it and it went away immediately. It came back a few more times but each time I would use a knuckle and pop it and that also worked. Haven't had any trouble for years. Blessings and love, Effie > > > >Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > >To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 That makes me think that what I have is definitely not a cyst. This is very hard and like a 2nd wrist bone. It's getting on my nerves big time. lol Since I have a high tolerance for pain I've put up with it for months, but I finally made an appointment with an ortho doc. Thanks! Cindy -------------- Original message from " Effie Humburg " <britchs: -------------- This may sound a little gross, anyway, I had a ganglion cyst and it kept getting bigger and bigger. Well, one day I was sitting on the patio with a hammer in my hand that I had been using so I smacked it and it went away immediately. It came back a few more times but each time I would use a knuckle and pop it and that also worked. Haven't had any trouble for years. Blessings and love, Effie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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