Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Butch, VERY cool info. I understood chai/cha/various deviations to pretty much worldwide be the generic words for tea in their respective languages. That, in fact, our word " tea " derived from that word. I am an Indian chai purist to some extent, at least as much as I can be while not in India, and I don't put odd things in it personally, although the vanilla is a bit tasty must admit. Goodness... I'll have to read this again. SO intriguing. Thanks for the correction on the " Turkish " coffee I wrongly described! Oooh goodie something new to try. Glad you had a great V-day, as well as the rest of the good people on the list, and mine hopefully will be starting in its proper form in an hour or so. Yesterday I got an early gift of... dirt. Well, and some seed starter cups for my herb garden. I'm a gardening newbie. - Michelle Butch Owen [butchbsi] Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:29 AM Turkish Coffee and Turkish Tea (Çay) and Happy Valentines Day Hey Michelle, Happy Valentines Day to all. Mine was a gud'un the afternoon and the night and I hope y'all had one too. Now its way past midnight here .. the morning of 15 February .. I'm one tired puppy but I have time to read some mail afore I crash. Yes Kathleen .. I'm gonna crash afore the morning sun pops up. ;-) > Anyone out there (I bet there are a few takers on this one, knowing > what I do...) like Turkish coffee? The cardamon... oh wowie wow wow. Authentic Turkish Coffee NEVER has Cardamom in it .. Arab Coffee does. That's the primary difference between the two. Some Arabic countries routinely put Cardamom in fine ground (suspended) coffee .. otherwise widely known as Turkish / Arabic Coffee. I dislike Cardamom in mine but I've been spoiled on a daily basis with fresh ground Turkish Coffee for many years now. ;-) For information on the history of coffee see my old Turkish web site .. http://www.bsi-hq.com/coffee.html What is not mentioned there is that ALL of the phonetic pronunciations of Coffee are from the original Ethiopian, Arabic or Turkish words. The French and Spanish Cafe, the Italian Caffe, the German Kaffee, the Dutch Koffie, the Finnish Kahvi and the Greek Kafe. Unusual it is but I find most of the Greeks (especially the older ones) still refer to the drink as Turkish Kahve. I do not sell Turkish Coffee now. But I do sell the Cups/Saucers sets from world famous Kütahya Porcelain, the Brass or Copper Cezves, the Brass Serving Trays and the Brass Coffee Grinder-Spice Mills from my company in Maryland .. they can be seen at the following URL ... http://www.bsi-hq.com/sundries.html And I still have a few of the Brass and Copper Shepherd Lanterns for candles .. at http://www.bsi-hq.com/other.html Folks who are interested can write me for prices. I gar-an-tee you'll be surprised and pleased. ;-) As for the " Chai " lots of folks are discussing .. Vanilla, Chocolate, Spiced, Raspberry, Green .. I've done a bit of research on that too but never put it on a web site as I didn't sell Teas (except for Herbals). But Chai and Tea originally had the same meaning .. still do in fact but the marketers try to make it appear to be two different critters. The word " Çay " .. pronounced CHAH-yee .. is Turkish for Tea. The Arabs pronounce it the same way but when they translate to the Roman alphabet they normally write it as " Chi " . The word " Chia " is the same word in the Indian (Hindustani) language. The Indians spiced the Tea up a bit .. they took Black Tea and added milk, spices and sugar .. and though they still call that combination Chai .. the marketers have spiced it up a bit more and call it this and that Chai. ;-) The Persians (Iranians) often spice up their Tea with Cardamom and Rose Hydrosol .. I don't like that either. Turkish Coffee is the more famous Turkish drink because its the one the tourists crave, but Turkish tea (Çay) is really the national drink of the masses .. matters not where you go if you stand still in a shop for more than 2 minutes someone will offer you a Çay. Turkish Çay is brewed from Tea grown on steep mountain slopes of Turkey's eastern Black Sea coast. Traditionally, Turkish Çay is brewed Samovar Style, with a small pot of very strong tea sitting on a larger pot of boiling water. You then pour a small amount of the strong tea into a little tulip shaped glass and cut it to the desired strength you want with hot water from the bottom of the Samovar. There are basically two types of Çay in Turkey and they depend on the strength you want .. " Koyu Çay " (koh-YOO) which is strong, dark Tea and " Açik Çay " (ah-CHUK) which is a weaker and lighter Tea. And there are forty eleven other aromatics used as Teas .. from Apple to Oregano and beyond. We NEVER use milk or lemon in Çay. We have a Çayhane (Tea House) on every corner in Turkey. One who makes or serves Tea is called a Çayci. Some Çaycis (especially in tourist locations) dress in the traditional style .. a colorful vest and a sash around the waist. They carry a tray suspended on a ring that can swing back and forth without spilling the contents. Turks drink a lot of Çay .. Winter and Summer .. morning till night .. but the tiny glasses hold but 2 oz or so. Every company or government office has a Çayci who also serves as a Boy Friday .. I had one in my company for nine years. I reckon that's about all there is to this tale. ;-) Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Wholesale/Retail GC Tested EO and Rose Otto, Tested Hydrosols and other nice things from our store in Friendsville, Maryland .. population 597. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Hey Michelle, Happy Valentines Day to all. Mine was a gud'un the afternoon and the night and I hope y'all had one too. Now its way past midnight here .. the morning of 15 February .. I'm one tired puppy but I have time to read some mail afore I crash. Yes Kathleen .. I'm gonna crash afore the morning sun pops up. ;-) > Anyone out there (I bet there are a few takers on this one, knowing > what I do...) like Turkish coffee? The cardamon... oh wowie wow wow. Authentic Turkish Coffee NEVER has Cardamom in it .. Arab Coffee does. That's the primary difference between the two. Some Arabic countries routinely put Cardamom in fine ground (suspended) coffee .. otherwise widely known as Turkish / Arabic Coffee. I dislike Cardamom in mine but I've been spoiled on a daily basis with fresh ground Turkish Coffee for many years now. ;-) For information on the history of coffee see my old Turkish web site .. http://www.bsi-hq.com/coffee.html What is not mentioned there is that ALL of the phonetic pronunciations of Coffee are from the original Ethiopian, Arabic or Turkish words. The French and Spanish Cafe, the Italian Caffe, the German Kaffee, the Dutch Koffie, the Finnish Kahvi and the Greek Kafe. Unusual it is but I find most of the Greeks (especially the older ones) still refer to the drink as Turkish Kahve. I do not sell Turkish Coffee now. But I do sell the Cups/Saucers sets from world famous Kütahya Porcelain, the Brass or Copper Cezves, the Brass Serving Trays and the Brass Coffee Grinder-Spice Mills from my company in Maryland .. they can be seen at the following URL ... http://www.bsi-hq.com/sundries.html And I still have a few of the Brass and Copper Shepherd Lanterns for candles .. at http://www.bsi-hq.com/other.html Folks who are interested can write me for prices. I gar-an-tee you'll be surprised and pleased. ;-) As for the " Chai " lots of folks are discussing .. Vanilla, Chocolate, Spiced, Raspberry, Green .. I've done a bit of research on that too but never put it on a web site as I didn't sell Teas (except for Herbals). But Chai and Tea originally had the same meaning .. still do in fact but the marketers try to make it appear to be two different critters. The word " Çay " .. pronounced CHAH-yee .. is Turkish for Tea. The Arabs pronounce it the same way but when they translate to the Roman alphabet they normally write it as " Chi " . The word " Chia " is the same word in the Indian (Hindustani) language. The Indians spiced the Tea up a bit .. they took Black Tea and added milk, spices and sugar .. and though they still call that combination Chai .. the marketers have spiced it up a bit more and call it this and that Chai. ;-) The Persians (Iranians) often spice up their Tea with Cardamom and Rose Hydrosol .. I don't like that either. Turkish Coffee is the more famous Turkish drink because its the one the tourists crave, but Turkish tea (Çay) is really the national drink of the masses .. matters not where you go if you stand still in a shop for more than 2 minutes someone will offer you a Çay. Turkish Çay is brewed from Tea grown on steep mountain slopes of Turkey's eastern Black Sea coast. Traditionally, Turkish Çay is brewed Samovar Style, with a small pot of very strong tea sitting on a larger pot of boiling water. You then pour a small amount of the strong tea into a little tulip shaped glass and cut it to the desired strength you want with hot water from the bottom of the Samovar. There are basically two types of Çay in Turkey and they depend on the strength you want .. " Koyu Çay " (koh-YOO) which is strong, dark Tea and " Açik Çay " (ah-CHUK) which is a weaker and lighter Tea. And there are forty eleven other aromatics used as Teas .. from Apple to Oregano and beyond. We NEVER use milk or lemon in Çay. We have a Çayhane (Tea House) on every corner in Turkey. One who makes or serves Tea is called a Çayci. Some Çaycis (especially in tourist locations) dress in the traditional style .. a colorful vest and a sash around the waist. They carry a tray suspended on a ring that can swing back and forth without spilling the contents. Turks drink a lot of Çay .. Winter and Summer .. morning till night .. but the tiny glasses hold but 2 oz or so. Every company or government office has a Çayci who also serves as a Boy Friday .. I had one in my company for nine years. I reckon that's about all there is to this tale. ;-) Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Wholesale/Retail GC Tested EO and Rose Otto, Tested Hydrosols and other nice things from our store in Friendsville, Maryland .. population 597. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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