Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Hi Everyone, I am really hoping someone can help clear up my confusion. I have read some very conflicting information about peppermint tea. I have always used it for any gastrointestinal ailment with great success. Everything from nausea to indigestion to cramps. My friends mother warned us that she had read an article that stated that peppermint tea should not be used for acid reflux symptoms and that long term use could lead to acid reflux. The article said that consuming peppermint tea may relax the esophageal sphincter causing an increase in acid reflux. I have read that peppermint tea is contraindicated with GERD and but, I have also come across information that stated that peppermint " lowered the pressure " and alleviated the symptoms. I try to get my information from credible sources but now I am questioning who and what is credible anymore. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Laura wrote: snip< I have always used it for any gastrointestinal ailment with great success.>snip I try to get my information from credible sources but now I am questioning who and what is credible anymore. > Laura Laura, Good onya for questioning anything and anybody. Just go to the only authority whose opinion really matters: YOUR BODY. Trust it to stop asking for peppermint when it needs a break from it. Meanwhile, give yourself a pat on the back for using a herb from Momma instead of Tums. This opinion has not been approved by the FDA or whatever! Ien in the Kootenays ******************************* Stop. Breathe. Smile! ~Padma ( my TV yoga teacher) See my smiling face: http://www.greatestnetworker.com/is/ien ******************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I usually use baking soda for that and grew up on that....I only have Tums with me for when I'm out of the house if I need it... Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I don't post very often, but had to share a remedy I've had my daughter (24) use for frequent heartburn and nausea. Instead of popping one Tums after another, I give her a 4 to 6 ounce glass of water with a tsp of peppermint hydrosol. She says that works a lot better than the Tums. Only thing is, she can't take it with her everywhere! LOL Jan Ieneke van Houten wrote: > Laura wrote: > > snip< I have always used it for any gastrointestinal ailment with > great success.>snip > > I try to get my information from credible sources but now I am > questioning who and what is credible anymore. > > Laura > > Laura, > Good onya for questioning anything and anybody. > Just go to the only authority whose opinion really > matters: YOUR BODY. > > Trust it to stop asking for peppermint when it needs > a break from it. Meanwhile, give yourself a pat on the > back for using a herb from Momma instead of > Tums. > > This opinion has not been approved by the FDA > or whatever! > > Ien in the Kootenays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 This is a really good point and actually answers my " what up " question. Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote:It is also important to address the root cause of heartburn in the first place. Much of the time it results from not enough stomach acid. Enzyme supplements can be a real help with heart burn. Ien in the Kootenays ******************************* Stop. Breathe. Smile! ~Padma ( my TV yoga teacher) See my smiling face: http://www.greatestnetworker.com/is/ien ******************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 has anyone tried candied ginger ? works for me Paula ........in Michigan Coming soon Farm Fresh Soaps & Candles I usually use baking soda for that and grew up on that....I only have Tums with me for when I'm out of the house if I need it... Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 What gives you the idea that acid reflux is caused by too little acid? Most times it is caused because the oesophageal sphincter where it joins the stomach is weak, or by a hiatus hernia, or often by both. I have both confirmed by gastroscope examination. This results in the stomach acid getting to places it should not go, which long term can lead to serious erosion. In such a case the only permanent fix is an operation to tighten this valve. Drug treatment can reduce acid levels and thus damage, but the problem is as soon as you stop taking the drugs the problem comes back. I have had these drugs myself, but now I only take them for a day or so when the inflammation is getting bad because they do have side effects. Antacids simply knock down the strength of the acid which is particularly valuable at night. Herbs are about the same as drugs in that they cannot fix a physical fault. Herbal treatment is most useful for those whose stomach acid production is abnormally high, but that is less common than a simple mechanical fault. To use anything to increase the strength of the stomach acid is crazy if the problem is due to a mechanical fault. All that will do is increase the oesophageal erosion and cause more pain. Martin Watt , " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan@t...> wrote: > It is also important to address the root cause > of heartburn in the first place. > Much of the time it results from not enough > stomach acid. > > Enzyme supplements can be a real help with > heart burn. > > > Ien in the Kootenays > ******************************* > Stop. Breathe. Smile! > ~Padma ( my TV yoga teacher) > See my smiling face: > http://www.greatestnetworker.com/is/ien > ******************************* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 <I What gives you the idea that acid reflux is caused by too little acid?> A newsletter by Dr Jonathan Wright, MD. He is an orthomolecular physician who was rewarded the first Linus Pauling prize. He claims 90% of his patients with heartburn had too little stomach acid, rather than too much. Supplementation to increase acid took the heartburn away. I have seen a lot of people whose heartburn was reduced when they started supplementing with digestive enzymes. Unless you have an actively bleeding ulcer using enzymes is one one of those all-over good things to do, especially if you are over 40. <Most times it is caused because the oesophageal sphincter where it joins the stomach is weak, or by a hiatus hernia, or often by both.> Yes, that too. Reflexology has sometimes helped. I have heard of other touch therapies helping too. Ien in the Kootenays **************************** " Intelligence is like legs. Too many and you trip yourself up " ~Terry Pratchett Meet my medium intelligent face http://greatestnetworker.com/is/ien **************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 > A newsletter by Dr Jonathan Wright, MD. He is an orthomolecular > physician who was rewarded the first Linus Pauling prize. > He claims 90% of his patients with heartburn > had too little stomach acid, rather than too much. As I thought - a claim; taken up by others, not evaluated and passed on parrot fashion. I wonder if he gave any references as to tests that he conducted? ================================================== , " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan@t...> wrote: > <I What gives you the idea that acid reflux > is caused by too little acid?> > > A newsletter by Dr Jonathan Wright, MD. > He is an orthomolecular physician who was > rewarded the first Linus Pauling prize. > He claims 90% of his patients with heartburn > had too little stomach acid, rather than too much. > Supplementation to increase acid took the > heartburn away. > > I have seen a lot of people whose heartburn > was reduced when they started supplementing with > digestive enzymes. > Unless you have an actively bleeding ulcer > using enzymes is one one of those > all-over good things to do, especially if > you are over 40. > > <Most times it is caused because the oesophageal > sphincter where it joins the stomach is weak, > or by a hiatus hernia, or often by both.> > > Yes, that too. Reflexology has sometimes helped. > I have heard of other touch therapies helping too. > > Ien in the Kootenays > **************************** > " Intelligence is like legs. > Too many and you trip yourself up " > ~Terry Pratchett > Meet my medium intelligent face > http://greatestnetworker.com/is/ien > **************************** > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 As a patient of Dr. Wright's, and having been tested for stomach acid production, I have found HCL with pepsin alleviates heartburn. Have you actually read his book, " Why stomach acid is good for you " ? Kani aromamedical2003 <aromamedical-2 wrote: > A newsletter by Dr Jonathan Wright, MD. He is an orthomolecular > physician who was rewarded the first Linus Pauling prize. > He claims 90% of his patients with heartburn > had too little stomach acid, rather than too much. As I thought - a claim; taken up by others, not evaluated and passed on parrot fashion. I wonder if he gave any references as to tests that he conducted? ================================================== , " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan@t...> wrote: > <I What gives you the idea that acid reflux > is caused by too little acid?> > > A newsletter by Dr Jonathan Wright, MD. > He is an orthomolecular physician who was > rewarded the first Linus Pauling prize. > He claims 90% of his patients with heartburn > had too little stomach acid, rather than too much. > Supplementation to increase acid took the > heartburn away. > > I have seen a lot of people whose heartburn > was reduced when they started supplementing with > digestive enzymes. > Unless you have an actively bleeding ulcer > using enzymes is one one of those > all-over good things to do, especially if > you are over 40. > > <Most times it is caused because the oesophageal > sphincter where it joins the stomach is weak, > or by a hiatus hernia, or often by both.> > > Yes, that too. Reflexology has sometimes helped. > I have heard of other touch therapies helping too. > > Ien in the Kootenays > **************************** > " Intelligence is like legs. > Too many and you trip yourself up " > ~Terry Pratchett > Meet my medium intelligent face > http://greatestnetworker.com/is/ien > **************************** > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 This group is supposed to be about herbs, oils and similar natural therapies. Enzyme treatments of this nature are not either, and in my view are not particularly natural. Most are akin to drugs but without the testing procedures involved simply because they are classed as food supplements. Very much like vitamins on which there is also vast amounts of marketing hype. I should point out again that I said such treatments cannot cure the physical defect that causes most peoples heartburn. Yes herbs can help regulate stomach acidity, but herbs are not enzyme therapy. Martin Watt , C Valenti <kanivalenti> wrote: > As a patient of Dr. Wright's, and having been tested for stomach acid production, I have found HCL with pepsin alleviates heartburn. Have you actually read his book, " Why stomach acid is good for you " ? > > Kani > > aromamedical2003 <aromamedical-2@l...> wrote: > > > A newsletter by Dr Jonathan Wright, MD. He is an orthomolecular > > physician who was rewarded the first Linus Pauling prize. > > He claims 90% of his patients with heartburn > > had too little stomach acid, rather than too much. > > As I thought - a claim; taken up by others, not evaluated and passed > on parrot fashion. > I wonder if he gave any references as to tests that he conducted? > > ================================================== > , " Ieneke van Houten " > <ienvan@t...> wrote: > > <I What gives you the idea that acid reflux > > is caused by too little acid?> > > > > A newsletter by Dr Jonathan Wright, MD. > > He is an orthomolecular physician who was > > rewarded the first Linus Pauling prize. > > He claims 90% of his patients with heartburn > > had too little stomach acid, rather than too much. > > Supplementation to increase acid took the > > heartburn away. > > > > I have seen a lot of people whose heartburn > > was reduced when they started supplementing with > > digestive enzymes. > > Unless you have an actively bleeding ulcer > > using enzymes is one one of those > > all-over good things to do, especially if > > you are over 40. > > > > <Most times it is caused because the oesophageal > > sphincter where it joins the stomach is weak, > > or by a hiatus hernia, or often by both.> > > > > Yes, that too. Reflexology has sometimes helped. > > I have heard of other touch therapies helping too. > > > > Ien in the Kootenays > > **************************** > > " Intelligence is like legs. > > Too many and you trip yourself up " > > ~Terry Pratchett > > Meet my medium intelligent face > > http://greatestnetworker.com/is/ien > > **************************** > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 This is interesting to me. I am a medical transcriptionist of 10 years. I also suffer from reflux. Never in any medical work I've done, OR in my own treatment for reflux, has the physical defect been mentioned. Know what I was told? I need psychiatric meds. That I'm too anxious. Oh sure, they gave me acid blockers and said quit eating tomatoes and drinking coffee, but they said that was masking the true problem, which is that I have an anxiety disorder. I have NO doubt at all that stress can wreak havoc in the body and that stress management is key. But still... I dunno, just rubbed me the wrong way. But maybe that's my out of control anxiety talking ;-) Michelle in Cleveland aromamedical2003 [aromamedical-2] Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:43 PM Re: acid reflux and peppermint tea This group is supposed to be about herbs, oils and similar natural therapies. Enzyme treatments of this nature are not either, and in my view are not particularly natural. Most are akin to drugs but without the testing procedures involved simply because they are classed as food supplements. Very much like vitamins on which there is also vast amounts of marketing hype. I should point out again that I said such treatments cannot cure the physical defect that causes most peoples heartburn. Yes herbs can help regulate stomach acidity, but herbs are not enzyme therapy. Martin Watt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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